'Fox News Sunday' to Host Kentucky Senate Debate

Oct 1, 2010 | Posted by: Top Mod2 | Full story: thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com

"Fox News Sunday" is heading to Louisville, Ky. Jack Conway, Kentucky's attorney general and the Democratic candidate for Senate , and Rand Paul, the Republican nominee and son of Representative Ron Paul, Republican of Texas, have agreed to a live debate on "Fox News Sunday" on Oct.3 at 9 a.m. (Eastern time).

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Grimes is moderately conservative by Bluegrass State standards. She’s to the right of me and most other Democrats beyond Dixie and border states like Kentucky.

Grimes will cruise in the Democratic primary. Besides her, the field includes some not-a-chance candidates. No other Democratic heavy hitter is expected to run.

McConnell also was set for an easy ride in the GOP primary. Ante-Bevin, he had just one nonentity to get past.

To be sure, this union card-carrying Hubert Humphrey Democrat wishes Grimes were a Kirsten Gillibrand, a Barbara Boxer or a Barbara Mikulski. They’re my kind of DC Democrats. But I also know they probably couldn’t get elected in Red State Kentucky. Only about 38 percent of us voted for President Obama last November.

Grimes is half a loaf to this lifelong Kentuckian. Yet McConnell and Bevin are no loaf. They’re not even the bread wrapper. So Grimes has got my vote.
Anyway, polls show Grimes is more than competitive against McConnell. Some surveys say the race is even.

Judd’s numbers looked halfway decent, too. Nonetheless, the Democratic bigwigs said a “Hollywood Liberal” couldn’t win, and they were probably right. But it is also true that Judd was excessively liberal for most of them.

Bevin says McConnell is too liberal. That, of course, shows just how far right wing he is. More than a few Kentucky Republicans agree with him, notably those of the tea party persuasion who insist Obama is a socialist, if not an out-and-out communist. These same folks rallied ‘round Rand Paul for the senate in 2010.

Paul was – and still is – the Kentucky tea party favorite. The faithful haven’t forgotten that in the GOP primary, McConnell backed then Secretary of State Trey Grayson over their man.

Grayson was McConnell’s protégé, Harry Potter to Dumbledore. But Voldemort, er, Paul, won. He also beat Democratic Attorney Gen. Jack Conway in the general election.

After the primary, McConnell had to go cap-in-hand to Paul, who reciprocated by endorsing him. Post-Bevin, Paul says he’s still for McConnell. Benton is a Paul fan.

So will Mitch finally get ditched? Will Bevin pull a Paul and beat McConnell in the primary?
Will the rest of the Paul faithful go along with their guy and play on Team Mitch?

If McConnell wins the primary, will Bevin back him? Or will he, or some other tea partier, run as an independent?

Tea party types seem less prone toward the half-a-loaf school of politics than those of us who don’t duck the liberal label and who don’t think “socialist” is necessarily a dirty word. Most of us – especially we Red State residents -- are pretty practical when it comes to voting.

We know if we sit out elections because a candidate like Grimes is not as liberal as we would like, we only help the other side.

Everybody knows Democrats like me are a tiny fraction of the state Democratic Party. We don’t count for much.

Oh, we’re glad to have Rep. John Yarmuth of Louisville and some state lawmakers from the Falls City and parts of Lexington. Almost every other Democratic elected official in Kentucky is a conservative Blue Dog or a DINO – a Democrat in name only. But even a quarter loaf…

On the other hand, a lot of tea partiers are of the compromise-equals-surrender persuasion.
The tea party is the tail that wags the GOP canine in Kentucky. How the tea partiers vote will make a big difference in who wins next year.

“United We Stand, Divided We Fall,” is our famous state motto. Almost all Democrats are marching behind Grimes. It’s far from certain the GOP will be similarly unified.

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What was it "THE FIVE" said tonight? 21 million adult children are still living with their parents, and 45% don't have jobs. Yeh, the economy is doing great!
Liberals continue to be totally blind as to what is occurring around them.
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Hitting icons and running to hide...lmao@repuke lemmings hating the FACTS....

Alison Grimes Storms Into Fancy Farm and Turns Mitch McConnell Into a Paranoid Old Man

She called McConnell out on his votes against the Violence Against Women Act, the Lily Ledbetter Act and the Paycheck Fairness Act. Grimes called for Kentucky to have a senator that unites ALL Kentuckians. She said Kentucky women deserve equal pay for equal work.

McConnell wore a silly grin and looked very scared.
Alison Grimes Storms Into Fancy Farm and Turns Mitch McConnell Into a Paranoid Old Man
Democratic senate candidate Alison Grimes blew into the Fancy Farm Picnic, stared down Mitch McConnell, and left him looking like a directionless and paranoid old man.

Alison Grimes began by talking about her long name and then said with your help Kentucky in January 2015 you can call me senator. Grimes said that she didn’t have to apologize for having more government experience than Rand Paul. She took a shot at Paul by pointing out that he wasn’t in Kentucky, he was spending his weekend with his loved ones, the tea party in Iowa. Grimes slammed McConnell for trying to gut Medicare. She said,”If the doctors told Sen. McConnell he had a kidney stone, he would refuse to pass it.” She hammered McConnell for being the most unpopular senator among both Democrats and Republicans.

Grimes said that McConnell is disliked by the voters in Kentucky and in the United States. She said McConnell is at the center of the DC dysfunction. The Democrat said after years of McConnell’s leadership the GOP stands for Gridlock Obstruction and Partisanship. She told McConnell to stop. She called out his empty rhetoric on defending Kentucky coal. She called McConnell on his votes against the Violence Against Women Act, and the Fair Pay Act.

Grimes called for Kentucky to have a senator that unites all Kentuckians. She said Kentucky women deserve equal pay for equal work, and she will fight to keep the state’s jobs from going overseas.

The McConnell supporters in the crowd tried to drown Grimes out, but by the end of the speech they were reduced to low murmur, as she had the Democrats in the crowd applauding and chanting along with her.

After seeing her speak today, it’s clear that McConnell isn’t going to be able to defeat Grimes simply by tying her to President Obama. Grimes is on the offensive, and going after McConnell hard. She also pulled some pages from Elizabeth Warren’s campaign playbook by making a strong appeal to women in the state.

Sec. of State Grimes has one big thing working for her. She is running on an anti-incumbent message during a time when Congress has never been less popular. She is also running against the ultimate symbol of Republican obstruction and incumbency. The contrast in the two candidates’ speeches was obvious. McConnell talked in paranoid tones about what would happen to Kentucky if he wasn’t reelected. Grimes talked about what she could do for Kentucky as the state’s senator.

While McConnell is busy with his tea party primary challenger, Alison Grimes has a chance to define him to voters now. This is why Democrats must get involved in this race early. They have an opening here. President Obama beat Mitt Romney and all of Citizens United fueled negative ads, because he defined Romney early and often. Democrats must do the same thing in Kentucky. They must get excited, get involved, and get active right now if they are going to defeat Mitch McConnell.

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Liberals continue to be totally blind as to what is occurring around them.
Republicans run the House, why isn't the economy doing great?
Why not 40 votes on a jobs bill?

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Stand your Ground
... if you get your ass kicked in a fight that you started , you oughta be able to shoot the other guy.
That's about right huh? Your daughter is being followed by some thug intending to rob or rape her and she ducks into the treeline ready to mace him and deserves to be shot to death for it right? Dumbass people thinking it is okay to follow someone then shoot them to death if they try to defend themselves. Repuke mentality. RIP GOP
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There was no evidence that Mr. Zimmerman started the fight. Actually, just the opposite. He was hit first by Mr. Martin and an eyewitness saw Mr. Martin on top of Mr. Zimmerman and pummeling him. Mr. Martin did not have bruises or cuts indicating he had been pummeled by Mr. Zimmerman. Mr. Zimmerman was not able to retreat as he had someone on top of him.

Your example is totally ridiculous! No comparison whatsoever.

Your son is driving out of your neighborhood to go to the store. He sees someone he does not recognize leisurely walking in the rain near the eaves of some of the homes. He calls 911 and attempts to keep the person in sight. The person goes down between two homes and he gets out of the car to see where he is going. It is dark, raining, and the person has a hood over his head so your son has no idea of his age.

The person suddenly appears and punches your son in the nose knocking him to the ground. He then straddles your son and begins pummeling him and slamming his head against the concrete. Your son is legally carrying a gun and cannot get the person off from him. He screams for help, but no one comes.

Your son is scared to death and afraid this person is going to kill him. What should he do?


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Liberals continue to be totally blind as to what is occurring around them.
Repubs have total memory lost of how we got here. They deny that before Obama the US was losing 750,000 jobs per month. They never knew of the thousands of businesses that closed right before Obama took office. They never heard that Wall St. and the Banks got bailed out. To Repubs these things never happened.

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Republicans run the House, why isn't the economy doing great?
Why not 40 votes on a jobs bill?
Because the Democrats run the Senate.

Did the billions spent on his stimulus really work for all of those "shovel ready jobs"? His policies just don't work.

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<quoted text>Repubs have total memory lost of how we got here. They deny that before Obama the US was losing 750,000 jobs per month. They never knew of the thousands of businesses that closed right before Obama took office. They never heard that Wall St. and the Banks got bailed out. To Repubs these things never happened.
Democrats argue that deficit spending was needed to combat the 2008 recession, but what did taxpayers get for their money? According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, unemployment averaged 5.26 percent during the Bush years. The average during the Obama years was 9.26 percent.

Even more telling is the fact that the Civilian Labor Force Participation Rate, the percentage of Americans working, has declined from 67.2 percent in January 2001 to 65.7 in January 2009 and to 63.8 percent in May 2012. According to Multpl.com , the U.S. population increased in each of those years, from 285 million in 2001 to 306 million in 2009. The U.S. population now stands at 313 million according to the U.S. Census. This means that fewer total Americans are working now than when President Obama took office even though the population has increased by 7 million. When President Bush left office 20.1 million Americans were working. Today only 19.9 million are in spite of a population growth of seven million.

Even though the Great Recession officially ended in June 2009, five months into Obama’s presidency and three years ago, the economy and the job markets have not recovered. By many measures, the economy is worse today than it was three years ago. The Federal Reserve announced last week that American wealth had decreased by 40 percent between 2007 and 2011. Home prices, which crashed in 2008, have not recovered and continue to decline in many markets. The Wall St. Journal reports that economists are “increasingly pessimistic” and more are predicting that the stagnant recovery will turn into another recession.

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There was no evidence that Mr. Zimmerman started the fight. Actually, just the opposite. He was hit first by Mr. Martin and an eyewitness saw Mr. Martin on top of Mr. Zimmerman and pummeling him. Mr. Martin did not have bruises or cuts indicating he had been pummeled by Mr. Zimmerman. Mr. Zimmerman was not able to retreat as he had someone on top of him.
Your example is totally ridiculous! No comparison whatsoever.
Your son is driving out of your neighborhood to go to the store. He sees someone he does not recognize leisurely walking in the rain near the eaves of some of the homes. He calls 911 and attempts to keep the person in sight. The person goes down between two homes and he gets out of the car to see where he is going. It is dark, raining, and the person has a hood over his head so your son has no idea of his age.
The person suddenly appears and punches your son in the nose knocking him to the ground. He then straddles your son and begins pummeling him and slamming his head against the concrete. Your son is legally carrying a gun and cannot get the person off from him. He screams for help, but no one comes.
Your son is scared to death and afraid this person is going to kill him. What should he do?
haha, typical fauxbox pundit spin and the example of the daughter was way off. My son would of called 911 and done what he was told to do by real authorities as well as following his neighborhood watch rules like he was taught to do and me not raising mine as a racist who sees color would of given the kid the benefit of the doubt. The police would of taken care of it and that kid would not be dead. Bottom line. Justify and spin it anyway you want like you do the traitor snowden to make yourself feel better while clutching your guns close to you all paranoid, while the MAJORITY knows better. Racism is alive and well in small town America too. The teabaggers set it free. We get it. Your two parties are the minority and will remain that way.

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Good Friday morning everyone! How many of you got to leave your job yesterday with tons of unfinished work and head out for a 5 week vacation? Anyone? No?? Well that's exactly what Congress did. Even tho the transportation and housing bill tanked they did manage to accomplish one thing before leaving town, any guesses? Yes! That's right! They made plans to repeal Obamacare for th 40th time when they return! FORTIETH TIME!! That all comes along with a nice little price tag in the ballpark of $60 million!! Where else can you walk off from your job and take a 5 week vacation when you haven't accomplished anything but wasting our money? NOWHERE ladies and gentlemen!! Well we have something to look forward to...apparently Boehner seems to think the members of Congress will come back in a much better mood after the August recess. Wonderful! I can only imagine what they will accomplish when they're all well rested and in good moods!!~D~ &#8234;#&#8206;LivingB lueKY
If at first you don't succeed, try 39 more times. eh
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I happen to believe if Congress only convened 1 day per year much more could be done and far less PORK would have been passed! Maybe Muslims would be better legislators...I hear they have an aversion to PORK!
Lets all send ILiH to Congress for Kentucky!

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<quoted text>Repubs have total memory lost of how we got here. They deny that before Obama the US was losing 750,000 jobs per month. They never knew of the thousands of businesses that closed right before Obama took office. They never heard that Wall St. and the Banks got bailed out. To Repubs these things never happened.
They have selective memory. Their days are numbered.

Did you go to Fancy Farm? What a spread of food. Wow. I watched it streamlined and did some A Lunatic up to the minute news reporting..hahaha

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Here's an article I seen about those jobs and unemployment:
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Devastating News For Republicans: Unemployment Under Obama Lowest in 5 years!

If you have any members of the Tea Party in your immediate circle of friends or family, you may want to take all sharp implements away from them, and make sure they’re not anywhere near any tall ledges, cliffs or bridges once they read this story. That whole “Obama’s ruining our economy” meme that right-wingers keep leaning on is becoming increasingly difficult to spin to people outside the conservative bubble, especially when the unemployment rate hits the lowest point its been in nearly five years, and that is precisely what happened in July.

The chart below shows the unemployment rate under President Obama’s White House. Though it’s still trending up when he takes office in January 2009, we now know that’s because the effects of The Great Recession were still setting off aftershocks in our economy as we bled out nearly a million jobs a month. The right’s argument since Obama got his stimulus passed is that it has done no good and that Obamacare still threatens to destroy our economy as we know it.

Yet, this chart shows a steady, if not frustratingly slow at times, march downward, even after Obamacare was passed, signed into law, and held up under scrutiny by the Supreme Court.

Whether or not employers are behaving like selfish fools and withholding hours and employment based on their paranoia about the Affordable Care Act, the reality is in the graph. Despite heavy opposition that has all but blocked every single effort made by the administration to jump-start the economy, some marked progress has been made.

This is of course why you’re going to hear nothing but incessant downplaying and demagogueing of the July jobs numbers. The right, and even some on the left, will rightly point out that the jobs that are being added are by and large low-wage and even sometimes part-time work. Of course, they do so with the notion that it shows Obama’s policies aren’t working. To me though, the fact that the middle class hasn’t recovered as well as it could have from The Great Recession also shows just how much of a handbrake to recovery the GOP obstruction has been.

The facts of the case are that both sides own a share in this anemic but steady recovery, but only one side has been actively working against recovery. You may feel that Obama hasn’t done enough to get middle class jobs, real jobs that pay more than minimum wage, growing like they have in the past. Perhaps that’s a valid criticism, especially when you take into account the fact that none of the big banks that nearly destroyed the world’s economy have even been remotely held accountable. It can be really easy, and in some ways you’d be completely validated, to blame Obama for not fighting the Republicans hard enough to get his jobs bill passed — a bill that would conservatively create a million more jobs, or about eight months’ worth of the current growth trends.

The fact that our unemployment rate is still ticking downward despite Washington’s ineptitude still indicts the GOP in a fare more harsh and truthful way. If they’d had been willing to deal with Obama like their predecessors were willing to deal with President Clinton, who knows where we’d be on the road to recovery at this point? With all the talk of a possible government shut down later this year, it would seem that indeed no lessons were learned in the 1990&#8242;s, when they faced nearly the same situation — a fairly popular president whose agenda is working but just isn’t being felt by enough Americans yet, and they think the answer is to further stymie Obama.

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Meanwhile, Americans are desperate for real growth and real progress. I think on both sides of the aisle there is room for compromise, but the two sides have to be willing to engage, and right now it’s still about going to the brink of made-up disaster. As long as the unemployment graph keeps moving that line downward though, the GOP’s time is running out. At some point most Americans, even those who tend to vote Republican, will be forced to reckon with the notion that we’ve come as far as we can go without compromise, and that while both sides deserve blame as to created the mess we’re in, one side deserves the lion share of the blame for trying to keep things just as broken, if not add a few more cracks and fissures themselves.

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Because the Democrats run the Senate.
Did the billions spent on his stimulus really work for all of those "shovel ready jobs"? His policies just don't work.
the stimulus worked, it just wasn't big enough.
the jobs bill was for the "shovel ready jobs"..Republicans voted it down...Republicans fault...everyone knows it...including you

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Because the Democrats run the Senate.
Did the billions spent on his stimulus really work for all of those "shovel ready jobs"? His policies just don't work.
Dems run the Senate, so the House sits on it's collective ass (except for voting to repeal Obamacare)...Clowns, Jokers and Thieves.

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I happen to believe if Congress only convened 1 day per year much more could be done and far less PORK would have been passed! Maybe Muslims would be better legislators...I hear they have an aversion to PORK!
Lets all send ILiH to Congress for Kentucky!
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Comedy isn't your forte, Ari...stick to essay grading, and being a prick. You Can Do It!

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haha, typical fauxbox pundit spin and the example of the daughter was way off. My son would of called 911 and done what he was told to do by real authorities as well as following his neighborhood watch rules like he was taught to do and me not raising mine as a racist who sees color would of given the kid the benefit of the doubt. The police would of taken care of it and that kid would not be dead. Bottom line. Justify and spin it anyway you want like you do the traitor snowden to make yourself feel better while clutching your guns close to you all paranoid, while the MAJORITY knows better. Racism is alive and well in small town America too. The teabaggers set it free. We get it. Your two parties are the minority and will remain that way.
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Well you can spin it any way you like but the prosecution nor the FBI were able to find one iota of racism in Mr. Zimmerman's actions. Based on the conditions that evening and Mr. Martin's size, Mr. Zimmerman also could not determine his age.

I agree it was a tragedy and Mr. Zimmerman made errors in judgement. Mr. Martin also made errors in judgement. When you pummel someone, straddle them, and them no means of escape, terrible things can happen. He could have walked directly home and advised his father of the incident. He chose to confront Mr. Zimmerman and fight him. Based on the evidence and the law, the jury made the correct decision.

I have not made one comment regarding Snowden so throwing that into your insult is totally dishonest. In addition, you do not know anything about me but seem to feel very comfortable in attacking me as a "racist" and a "teabagger".

I am glad you would not have raised your son to be a racist. I did not raise my children to be racists either. I also did not raise my children to be bigots which, based on your comments, may have been an issue for you.

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the jobs bill was for the "shovel ready jobs"..Republicans voted it down...Republicans fault...everyone knows it...including you
While meeting with his Jobs and Competitiveness Council today in Durham, N.C., President Obama cracked wise about one of his administration's early catchphrases.

Remember "shovel-ready projects."

Those were construction projects in the 2009 stimulus bill that were supposed to get moving right away -- but jobs council members told Obama today that some got held up because of elaborate government regulations and permitting procedures.

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The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (ARRA)(Pub.L. 111–5), commonly referred to as the Stimulus or The Recovery Act, was an economic stimulus package enacted by the 111th United States Congress in February 2009 and signed into law on February 17, 2009, by President Barack Obama.

To respond to the Great Recession, the primary objective for ARRA was to save and create jobs almost immediately. Secondary objectives were to provide temporary relief programs for those most impacted by the recession and invest in infrastructure, education, health, and renewable energy. The approximate cost of the economic stimulus package was estimated to be $787 billion at the time of passage, later revised to $831 billion between 2009 and 2019.

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Dems run the Senate, so the House sits on it's collective ass (except for voting to repeal Obamacare)...Clowns, Jokers and Thieves.
The legislative branch of the world's most powerful nation is now widely scorned as it lurches from one near-catastrophe to the next, even on supposedly routine matters such as setting an annual budget and keeping government offices open.

There's no single culprit, it seems. Rather, long-accumulating trends have reached a critical mass, in the way a light snowfall can trigger an avalanche because so many earlier snows have piled atop each other.

At the core of this gridlock is a steadily growing partisanship. Couple that with a rising distaste for compromise by avid voters. Unswerving conservatives and liberals dominate the two parties' nominating processes, electing lawmakers who pledge never to stray from their ideologies.

"The voters bear some blame," Davis added, noting recent elections in which the greatest energies were on the edges, not the middle.

Edwards, who has written extensively on government since leaving Congress in 1993, said in a recent article for The Atlantic that Americans have created a political system "that makes cooperation almost impossible and incivility nearly inevitable."

There's hope it might improve somewhat, over time, Edwards said in the interview. But for now, he said, members of Congress are responding to voters who say "if you compromise, if you reach across the aisle, we will defeat you."

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