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'Fox News Sunday' to Host Kentucky Senate Debate

There are 274726 comments on the thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com story from Oct 1, 2010, titled 'Fox News Sunday' to Host Kentucky Senate Debate. In it, thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com reports that:

"Fox News Sunday" is heading to Louisville, Ky. Jack Conway, Kentucky's attorney general and the Democratic candidate for Senate , and Rand Paul, the Republican nominee and son of Representative Ron Paul, Republican of Texas, have agreed to a live debate on "Fox News Sunday" on Oct.3 at 9 a.m. (Eastern time).

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Jay

Springville, TN

#108812 Jul 8, 2013
countrygirl wrote:
<quoted text> He was black,with a hoodie on.
Eating skittles and drinking tea.
**********

I hope they never call you for jury duty. You make up your mind before you have all the facts and issues, convict on the basis of race and wish to execute someone because you refuse to let the court play out. You also refuse to analyze the pro and con of an issue. He's black, so that's all that matters to you.

You're hysterical about this and refuse to accept any other opinion but your own!

No court needs your kind to determine of fate of anyone.
Uncle Tab

United States

#108813 Jul 8, 2013
countrygirl wrote:
<quoted text> This is suspicious to you? What proof?
from zimmerman. so you think it's OK to
hunt and kill children? that fat side of pork
acted like a punk, and shot somebody's child.
If he was so dam scared, he could have shot
him in the leg. All boils down to he had no
business following him. Point blank
They aren't thinking things thru, a heart shot should be something jurors should be thinking about very closely.'Ground and pound' position..... Martins knees would be blocking Zimmermans gun if he was carting it on his hip. Not impossible to reach, but difficult. If Martin was raining punches down on Martin his face would be hurt more than a broken nose. Now if Both are right handed, means martins left arm is blocking Zimmermans right arm from getting a heart shot.

Not impossible but either Zimmerman was doing an amazing job if only getting hit a few times with one hand as he grabbed his gun with the other or..... As soon as Zimmerman got tired of being harassed punched him in the nose and knocked Zimmerman down and Zimmerman shit from the ground.

Lots to be thinking about. All in all.... If Zimmerman would have not followed him it would have never happened. Martin had every right to gontonthe store and come home without being impeded In any way!
countrygirl

Madisonville, KY

#108814 Jul 8, 2013
Black and White kids walk thru my neighborhood
all times of night with hoodies on. What am I
suppose to do? Put on my Superman panties
and chase them down to see what they are
doing? Hell No! That would make me look
like a creepy ass cracker.
Uncle Tab

United States

#108815 Jul 8, 2013
Jay wrote:
<quoted text>
*******
I agree. Z, did not identify himself. Mistake number one. That's why he should have called out, "Security here, may I ask your business"?
There are a lot of companies who hire night watchmen, and these people have the authority to ask you who you are and what your business is on the property. That did not happen, agree.
Z, assumed because of the break-ins that had been going on that this may be someone casing the joint. I did not say it was right, only that there was suspicion on both sides. Z, was wrong to continue to follow when backup was coming. Martin should have just kept going onto home. This was so NOT necessary, it's pathetic that someone had to die because of suspicion and lack of communication.
Oh, and by the way...was Z hired or a volunteer? In either case, someone requested his presence did they not? I'm reading it was complex management at the request of residents.
Perfect!!

Let's just say you're walking home at night and I start following you. You have no clue who I am. You change directions a few times and I follow you. What do you do?
Leo

Russell, KY

#108816 Jul 8, 2013
Uncle Tab wrote:
Just a few of the questions republicans RUN from..
Naming republicans who agree that Obama is Muslim.
Naming republicans who voted against NSA.
What do you republicans say about these things? "We're not doing your research for you"
LMFAO!

The TRUTH is..... They CAN'T give these answered because all their lies fall apart.
Can't name a republican right off, but I have heard a democrat say it several times.
countrygirl

Madisonville, KY

#108817 Jul 8, 2013
Jay wrote:
<quoted text>
**********
I hope they never call you for jury duty. You make up your mind before you have all the facts and issues, convict on the basis of race and wish to execute someone because you refuse to let the court play out. You also refuse to analyze the pro and con of an issue. He's black, so that's all that matters to you.
You're hysterical about this and refuse to accept any other opinion but your own!
No court needs your kind to determine of fate of anyone.
if he had been a white child,
same scenario, I would be equally upset. My
child, your child. your against him because he
was a black child. so f*ck off Jay/ari.
Uncle Tab

United States

#108818 Jul 8, 2013
Leo wrote:
<quoted text>
Can't name a republican right off, but I have heard a democrat say it several times.
The people you voted for font believe it but you all do??

So what else are they doing that they string you along with? And why do you vote for them if they don't believe in such a big issue?? I mean come on.... A Muslim President of the United States and republicans aren't saying a WORD about it??

Why do you vote for idiots??
countrygirl

Madisonville, KY

#108819 Jul 8, 2013
Uncle Tab wrote:
<quoted text>
They aren't thinking things thru, a heart shot should be something jurors should be thinking about very closely.'Ground and pound' position..... Martins knees would be blocking Zimmermans gun if he was carting it on his hip. Not impossible to reach, but difficult. If Martin was raining punches down on Martin his face would be hurt more than a broken nose. Now if Both are right handed, means martins left arm is blocking Zimmermans right arm from getting a heart shot.
Not impossible but either Zimmerman was doing an amazing job if only getting hit a few times with one hand as he grabbed his gun with the other or..... As soon as Zimmerman got tired of being harassed punched him in the nose and knocked Zimmerman down and Zimmerman shit from the ground.
Lots to be thinking about. All in all.... If Zimmerman would have not followed him it would have never happened. Martin had every right to gontonthe store and come home without being impeded In any way!
Yes, I totally agree.
He took the coward way out and shot that child.
Jay/ari said last night he wasn't a child. My question is can he vote? No. Can he buy
cigarettes? No. Then he was a child.
It could have been any of our children, in
the wrong place at the wrong time.
Jay

Springville, TN

#108820 Jul 8, 2013
Uncle Tab wrote:
Line good thing about the Zimmerman trial, there's a nurse in the jury. That nurse will know that the head injuries aren't as bad as Zimmerman made them out to be. The nurse will also know that someone who is struggling in a fight would have issues reaching for a gun, it would be very difficult to unholster and shoot someone dead center in the heart.
If Zimmerman was on the ground defending himself, Martin would have probably been shot in the side wouldn't he?? How can Zimmerman on the ground, Martin on top of him fighting get the gun past arms without shooting the arms of Martin? It's possible yes, but the easiest shot since the gun is on your side is a side shot to the attacker.
Unless the fight was over.... That's what I'm guessing. Shot him after he got his ass beat.
Plus in the ground and pound position, martins knees would have been covering the side arm, making it more difficult for Zimmerman to reach. Unless of course the gun was already draw. That's probably what happened.
Bitch/Coward move!
********
Dr. Baden, the renowned pathologist you see on Forensics told Greta (and it's on video) that the powder from the gun, the angle of the bullet and how it was lodged (fragmented) was at the most @ three inches from Martin's chest and went up in angle through the hoodie. Nothing indicated that Z was any further away than @ three inches or so. He gave an impartial interview based on his many years as a pathologist....you might want to look this up?

He was shot in the side, left side, heart.
Jay

Springville, TN

#108821 Jul 8, 2013
countrygirl wrote:
<quoted text> if he had been a white child,
same scenario, I would be equally upset. My
child, your child. your against him because he
was a black child. so f*ck off Jay/ari.
********

You're so full of crap lady!!! He was someone's child, but he was not a child, he was a boy if you wish to call a 17 year old a boy even. And his being black doesn't dismiss the fact that his parent's are grieving and will forever miss him.

You are so racist it's pathetic!
countrygirl

Madisonville, KY

#108822 Jul 8, 2013
Jay wrote:
<quoted text>
********
Dr. Baden, the renowned pathologist you see on Forensics told Greta (and it's on video) that the powder from the gun, the angle of the bullet and how it was lodged (fragmented) was at the most @ three inches from Martin's chest and went up in angle through the hoodie. Nothing indicated that Z was any further away than @ three inches or so. He gave an impartial interview based on his many years as a pathologist....you might want to look this up?
He was shot in the side, left side, heart.
that's your problem, listening to
"greta" change the channel sometimes.
fake news got you Idiots snowed.
Greta says "its snowing" Jay/ari says. "OK"
Jay

Springville, TN

#108823 Jul 8, 2013
Uncle Tab wrote:
<quoted text>
Perfect!!
Let's just say you're walking home at night and I start following you. You have no clue who I am. You change directions a few times and I follow you. What do you do?
********

In this case? I'd take out my cell phone and dial 911.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#108824 Jul 8, 2013
Uncle Tab wrote:
Line good thing about the Zimmerman trial, there's a nurse in the jury. That nurse will know that the head injuries aren't as bad as Zimmerman made them out to be. The nurse will also know that someone who is struggling in a fight would have issues reaching for a gun, it would be very difficult to unholster and shoot someone dead center in the heart.
If Zimmerman was on the ground defending himself, Martin would have probably been shot in the side wouldn't he?? How can Zimmerman on the ground, Martin on top of him fighting get the gun past arms without shooting the arms of Martin? It's possible yes, but the easiest shot since the gun is on your side is a side shot to the attacker.
Unless the fight was over.... That's what I'm guessing. Shot him after he got his ass beat.
Plus in the ground and pound position, martins knees would have been covering the side arm, making it more difficult for Zimmerman to reach. Unless of course the gun was already draw. That's probably what happened.
Bitch/Coward move!
My opinion, Zimmerman had his gun drawn in advance.

I have an older brother who when we were younger, came home quite a few times with cuts on his knuckles from fighting. You don't knock someone the fuck out and walk away with a clean hand.

Unless you're Ari, and in the heat of battle, you decide to use your less dominant hand to land a side hammer fist. lol
Carl James

Russell, KY

#108825 Jul 8, 2013
last night the wife and I were watching a TV show abut true stories about people helping and working with animals.This one show was about an officer and his deputy dog who was his partner.

They were dispatched to a neighborhood where two young teenager burglars had broken into a home there.
They ran out of the house just as the cop and dog arrived and the cop told them to halt. They ran, but the officer and dog caught one and they wrestled around , with the dog biting and pulling on the young robber.
With a trained officer and trained dog biting and pulling at him, the young robber got the officer down and managed to get get the gun out of the holster and hit the dog in the head with it and then pointed it at the officer and pulled the trigger, but it misfired and the officer wasn't hurt, but he meant to kill him.
They said the teenager was younger and stronger than the older officer. I think this is what happened in the Zimmerman?Martin case.
Travon Martin was younger and stronger than Zimmerman and Zimmerman wouldn't be here today if he hadn't got hold of his gun first.
In cases like this you don't have time to think about anything except to save yourself if you think someone's trying to kill you.
countrygirl

Madisonville, KY

#108826 Jul 8, 2013
Jay wrote:
<quoted text>
********
You're so full of crap lady!!! He was someone's child, but he was not a child, he was a boy if you wish to call a 17 year old a boy even. And his being black doesn't dismiss the fact that his parent's are grieving and will forever miss him.
You are so racist it's pathetic!
don't start
twisting shit, like fake news. if you don't have
nothing to say, then shut up! Deuces biotch!

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#108827 Jul 8, 2013
countrygirl wrote:
I hope his punk ass gets life. I hope they feed
his fat ass junk food every day. He won't last
long. They better not put him in prison
population, cause they gonna wear that
ass out. F'n coward.
LMFAO I was thinking the same thing. No outcome is going to be good for George Zimmerman -other than hiding out with Casey Anthony.
Uncle Tab

United States

#108828 Jul 8, 2013
Jay wrote:
<quoted text>
********
Dr. Baden, the renowned pathologist you see on Forensics told Greta (and it's on video) that the powder from the gun, the angle of the bullet and how it was lodged (fragmented) was at the most @ three inches from Martin's chest and went up in angle through the hoodie. Nothing indicated that Z was any further away than @ three inches or so. He gave an impartial interview based on his many years as a pathologist....you might want to look this up?
He was shot in the side, left side, heart.
I have front to back.

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/28/121938...

Straight from the autopsy.

If its a chest shot and not absinthe shot, this doesn't make you question Zimmerman more?
Uncle Tab

United States

#108829 Jul 8, 2013
Jay wrote:
<quoted text>
********
In this case? I'd take out my cell phone and dial 911.
Ok, and I block you from going anywhere. Now you see I have a gun.... Now what? I'm NOT going to let you leave.

No I don't know if that's what happened, but who knows what happened? The only other person who knows is dead so we have to look at EVERYthing.

And no matter what, the police will not make it before it ends so waiting is not an option.
Enigma

Bolivar, MO

#108830 Jul 8, 2013
This is not a "Stand your Ground" case. In a stand your ground case the burden of proof rests on the "defendant". In This trial, the prosecutors have to prove "beyond doubt' that Zimmerman did not reasonably believe he was in imminent danger of death or "great bodily harm to himself.
The jurors, in order to convict, would have to see evidence that could disprove self defense beyond a reasonable doubt. And there has been no such evidence presented.

This is a murder trial, and in order to convict, they have to show he had the "intent to kill" and did so with a depraved mind, malice, evil intent, hatred, or ill will.

Surely Zimmerman's injuries are evidence to support he shot Martin in self defense. Even the neighbor said Zimmerman was on the bottom with Martin on top while the screaming was going on.

Remember, the only thing that matters in this case is whether or not at "the moment he fired" the fatal shot, is whether Zimmerman "reasonably" feared for his life and this was the only way to stop him.

IF this case were being tried as a stand your ground case, then whoever started the altercation would be important and the defendant (Zimmerman) would have the burden to prove that he should not be held legally responsible.

The stand your ground law can protect a shooter from ever going to trial. It was not created or put into effect for someone who starts a fight and loses the fight.

The trial you are seeing is a Self Defense case and not a stand your ground case.
Jay

Springville, TN

#108831 Jul 8, 2013
countrygirl wrote:
<quoted text> that's your problem, listening to
"greta" change the channel sometimes.
fake news got you Idiots snowed.
Greta says "its snowing" Jay/ari says. "OK"
********

Your problem is not listening, PERIOD.

Dr. Baden gave the interview. He is not a regular on Fox. Of course you would know better than a pathologist, forensic scientist, medical professional, MD - you sizzle brained racist!

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