'Fox News Sunday' to Host Kentucky Senate Debate

Oct 1, 2010 | Posted by: Top Mod2 | Full story: thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com

"Fox News Sunday" is heading to Louisville, Ky. Jack Conway, Kentucky's attorney general and the Democratic candidate for Senate , and Rand Paul, the Republican nominee and son of Representative Ron Paul, Republican of Texas, have agreed to a live debate on "Fox News Sunday" on Oct.3 at 9 a.m. (Eastern time).

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I don't believe in cutting food stamps where children are involved, or WIC when low income folks have babies, but figure this out here if you can:

What will we do if 11 million more people are given amnesty and qualify for the above? How will we handle 30 more million up-and-coming amnesty recipients who would qualify as low income and apply for the above? How will 23 million Americans compete with the above number of people for jobs in this country? If jobs are doled out to low income people making minimum wage, just what do you think the bill will be for this many new people? What about the costs of building new schools, transporting kids on the school busses or having to purchase more busses.

Adding on to schools is at taxpayer expense. Home owners will find their taxes going up to support the school districts. Many of those home owners are retirees who have paid into the school system for decades.

These children, who will be attending our schools may need bilingual teachers. Where will the money come from to add thousands of bilingual teachers to the nation's schools?

In my old home town, when Latino's moved to the area, any time we received school flyers, one side was in English and the other in Spanish. Typing this information at that time required special typewriters and someone who knew how to type it in Spanish. Our school district was going broke. Taxes went up and people moved out of the city. Retirees sold out and moved to different states or senior living areas, 55 and older where children weren't allowed except to visit grandparents. What goes up must come down. Every action has a reaction.

So say you?
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Something to consider........

Food Stamp Households at All-Time High

The cost of the food stamp program has soared under President Barack Obama and the number of U.S. households receiving benefits reached a record high in March, according to newly released data from the Agriculture Department.

The data show that 23,116,441 households are enrolled in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), each receiving an average of $274 a month. That’s an increase of 27,600 households from the previous record, set in January.

The number of individuals on SNAP stood at 47,727,052 in March — about one in seven Americans — down only slightly from a record high in December of 47,792,056, according to The Daily Caller. Each received an average of $133 a month.

The cost of the food stamp program has quadrupled since 2001 and doubled since Obama took office. It cost taxpayers about $80 billion last year, and accounts for about 80 percent of farm bill spending.

On Monday, the Senate passed a new farm bill that will cost about $955 billion over 10 years. The bill cuts about $4.1 billion from SNAP over the 10 years.

But a bill pending in the Republican-controlled House would cut about $20 billion from the program over 10 years and make it more difficult for some people to qualify for the benefits.

The House in 2012 declined to take up the legislation during an election year amid disagreements over how much should be cut from SNAP, The New York Times reported.

A Kaiser/Harvard/Robert Wood Johnson Foundation poll in January found that 28 percent of respondents were willing to make major reductions to food stamp spending, 41 percent supported minor reductions, and just 29 percent favored keeping spending at present levels.

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All Muslims are not fanatics, but all terrorists are Muslims.
I think you're a terrorist.
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MUST WATCH: REP. LOUIE GOHMERT BLASTS OBAMA FBI DIRECTOR:‘SIR, IF YOU’RE GOING TO CALL ME A LIAR…’– FBI CALLS BOSTON TERRORISTS’ MOSQUE INVESTIGATION ‘OUTREACH’

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The FBI never canvassed Boston mosques until four days after the April 15th attacks.

If the Russians tell you that someone has been radicalized and you go check and see the mosques that they went to, then you get the articles of incorporation, as I have for the group that created the Boston mosques where these Tsarnaevs attended, and you’ll find out the name Alamoudi.

You’ll remember because while you were FBI Director, this man who was so helpful to the Clinton administration with so many big things, he gets arrested at Dulles Airport by the FBI and he’s now doing over 20 years for supporting terrorism.

This is the guy that started the mosques where your Tsarnaevs were attending and you didn’t even bother to go check about the mosques?

And then when you have the pictures, why did no one go to the mosque and say, who are these guys? They attend — may attend here? Why was that not done since such a thorough job was done?

http://www.tpnn.com/must-watch-rep-louie-gohm...

Jack 3 days ago &#8722;
Omitting Mosques from surveillance and making it classified keeps prying eyes from connecting Obama's joined at the hip, slobbering love affair with the Muslim Brotherhood.

plain45 3 days ago
Gohmert was much too kind to this scumbag. I would have been blunt. This entire administration including the FBI are incompetent and should resign. The terrorists were identified to them by the Russians and for some strange reason they refused to do anything about it

joebideyourtime plain45 3 days ago
Looks like another stand down order from O.
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You're asking me, if that's what "us" people do? Are calling me a Muslim fanatic?
The "shoe" FITS!
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SEE how well muslims LOVE Christians?
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Fifty-Two Churches Destroyed In Nigeria

by Ted on June 15, 2013 in General
Raymond Ibrahim of FrontPage:

The Islamic jihad against Christians in Nigeria is proving to be the most barbaric. A new report states that 70% of Christians killed around the world in 2012 were killed in the African nation. Among some of the atrocities committed in March alone, at least 41 people were killed in a suicide bomb attack at a bus station in a predominantly Christian neighborhood. According to the Christian Association of Nigeria, these attacks “were a signpost of the intended extermination of Christians and Christianity from northern Nigeria.”

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....can't even give it a rest on a beautiful Father's Day Sunday. You sick racist loons are here spinning your lies and slinging your shit as usual. I think maybe you should go read some history or do some real research in all your hipcrosity and disgusting intolerance of other people's race or religion. And you dumbasses wonder why you lose elections. Keep it up, all the hate, racism, lies, paranoia and bullshit, exposing your teabagging repukes for the gloom and doom fright wing parties they are. We know you can't help it. Repressing all that hate and racism until it exploded with the election and re-election of President Obama. Stay in denial and continue to troll for other people's comments, other political trash threads, and alexjones infowar winged nuts drama (wnd) fauxbox propaganda sites. It won't change anything but help more Dems get elected. Keep dissing women, blacks, Hispanics, muslims, and the MAJORITY you repukes will never be. Your two parties are weak and DEMS rule.

Get use to it loser lemmings tools.

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BLOODY CHICAGO FATHER'S DAY WEEKEND: 26 SHOT
At least 6 killed in horrific spree of violence

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ALL Muslims are not terrorists ....grow up lemming losers, step away from your fauxbox and get with the real world. The MAJORITY isn't going to let you take our country back to the days of slavery and intolerance. Our country is a diverse country and our FREEDOMS are afforded to all that come and become citizens. That's why they all want to come. We are the greatest country on Earth and if you can't take it moving forward maybe you should leave. Racist idiots.

All Terrorists are Muslims...Except the 94% that Aren't

CNN recently published an article entitled Study:
Threat of Muslim-American terrorism in U.S.
exaggerated; according to a study released by Duke University and the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill,“the terrorist threat posed by radicalized Muslim-Americans has been exaggerated.”

Yet, Americans continue to live in mortal fear of radical Islam, a fear propagated and inflamed by right wing Islamophobes. If one follows the cable news networks, it seems as if all terrorists are Muslims. It has even become axiomatic in some circles to chant:“Not all Muslims are terrorists, but nearly all terrorists are Muslims.” Muslims and their “leftist dhimmi allies” respond feebly, mentioning Waco as the one counter example, unwittingly affirming the belief that “nearly all terrorists are Muslims.”

But perception is not reality. The data simply does not support such a hasty conclusion. On the FBI’s official website, there exists a chronological list of all terrorist attacks committed on U.S. soil from the year 1980 all the way to 2005. That list can be accessed here (scroll down all the way to the bottom).

The moral of the story is that Americans ought to calm down when it comes to Islamic terrorism. Right wingers always live in mortal fear–or rather, they try to make you feel that way. In fact, Pamela Geller (the queen of internet Islamophobia) literally said her mission was to “scare the bejeezus outta ya.” Don’t be fooled, and don’t be a wuss. You don’t live in constant fear of radicalized Latinos (unless you’re Lou Dobbs), even though they commit seven times more acts of terrorism than Muslims in America. Why then are you wetting yourself over Islamic radicals? In the words of Cenk Uygur: you’re at a ten when you need to be at a four. Nobody is saying that Islamic terrorism is not a matter of concern, but it’s grossly exaggerated.

http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/not-all-terr...

Hey Unc I found the A Lunactic site for liberals. hahaha
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FEDS STRATEGY PUT BUREAUCRATS IN PLACE OF PARENTS
Son of atheist Madalyn Murray O'Hair:'Safety net' makes family unnecessary'

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/06/feds-strategy-put-...

SUPERMAN? HA! MEET A REAL-LIFE 'MAN OF STEEL'
Watch debut of new WND-TV series,'Zero to Superhero'

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Statistics on Muslims in the United States of America (USA)

For many years the Muslim community in America had been a small minority but today it is one of the fastest growing religions in the country. Muslims first came to America in the 1860&#8242;s from Syria and Lebanon. Today it is estimated that there are between 6 to 7 million Muslims in America, roughly 2% of the entire population.

Wow, look at all the Dem votes we could get from them if the repukes keep violating their American right.

The first official mosque was built in Cedar Rapids, Iowa in 1934. Today, according to the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) based in Washington DC, there are more than 1,209 known mosques throughout America.
http://www.30-days.net/muslims/muslims-in/ame...

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How many Muslim Americans were killed in the 911 attack?
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More than 60 Muslim Americans have been reported to have died in the September 11th attack, though it is stated that the list has not been completed.
http://answerparty.com/question/answer/how-ma...

How many Muslims serve in the us army?
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about 15000 soldiers

Dare you lemming losers to check the list out. Research your own site or click and see HOW MANY there are. hahaha Bet some of your favorite people are Muslims.

List of American Muslims

Jawed Karim –Co-founder of Youtube

Dave Chappelle – standup comedian

Casey Kasem For years an American Druze radio personality known for his top forty DJ format.
Ice Cube – Rapper and producer

Jermaine Jackson – Singer, bass guitarist

Snoop Dogg – Rapper. ex member of the Nation Of Islam

Cat Stevens

Mehmet Oz – medical doctor, talk show host
(Dr. Oz for you idiot repukes.)

Iman – Supermodel and wife of David Bowie[86] Rima

Fakih – Miss USA 2010

André Carson – Congressman from Indiana

Keith Ellison – First Muslim congressman from Minnesota

Malcolm X (also known as El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz)– Civil rights activist

Muhammad Ali

Mike Tyson

Shaquille O'Neal – Player for the Boston Celtics

Nazr Mohammed – Player for the Charlotte Bobcats
(and UK Wildcat)

Rasheed Wallace

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American...

Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html

The United States Constitution addresses the issue of religion in two places: in the First Amendment, and the Article VI prohibition on religious tests as a condition for holding public office. The First Amendment prohibits the federal government from making a law "respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" This provision was later expanded to state and local governments, through the Incorporation of the Fourteenth Amendment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_relig...

Got that loons? the Constitution and Bill of Rights are not just for teabagging repukes.

But by all means, carry on your racist intolerance gloom and doom while the rest of America moves FORWARD. That would be the MAJORITY. Got that?

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Inflected Form(s): plural -ties

2 a : a number or percentage greater than half of a total b : the amount by which such a number exceeds the smaller number

3 : the group or party that makes up the greater part of a whole body of persons

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Our leader is very busy right now with vacation plans,and can't be bothered with scandals and the Zimmerman trial. He's getting ready to take a vacation to Africa which according to sources will cost Tax payers ONE MILLION DOLLARS.Hotels and meals for all his security. It was very good of him to decide not take the Safari, that will save tons of $$$$$. God Bless and save the USA!!!
Randal CON, you and teabagging repukes cry about a trip that was scheduled and Romney would have taken if your losing party could have bought the election. That's what it cost. Deal with it. Bush went on his Africa trip, that's what PRESIDENTS do dumbass. But while you all are crying about money could you tell where that 9 BILLION DOLLARS went and where those WMD are? Didn't think so.

$9 Billion in Iraq Reconstruction Funds Missing
In an October 2007 article, two Vanity Fair authors examined the fate of $12 billion in U.S. currency which was transported from the Federal Reserve to Baghdad in April 2003 and June 2004, where it was dispensed by the Coalition Provisional Authority. They concluded that of this sum "at least $9 billion has gone missing.

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It's okay when the repukes do it eh?

$12 billion or more per month is currently being spent in Iraq with little accountability or oversight.

The Case of the Missing $21 Billion

Who’s Following the Iraq Money?

During the days of the Nixon Watergate scandal investigation, reporter Bob Woodword was famously advised by his mysterious source, Deep Throat, to "follow the money" as a way of cracking the story.

Well, there is a lot of money to follow in the current scandal that can be best described as the Bush/Cheney administration, and so far, nobody’s doing it.

My bet for the place that needs the most following is the more than $9 billion that has gone missing without a trace in Iraq–as well as $12 billion in cash that the Pentagon flew into Iraq straight from Federal Reserve vaults via military transports, and for which there has been little or no accounting.

When word of the missing money first surfaced in 2004, Congress passed legislation creating an office of Special Inspector General, assuming that this new agency would root out the problem and figure why all that taxpayer money had disappeared, and why only minimal reconstruction was going on in destroyed Iraq, instead of a massive rebuilding program as intended.

The new inspector general, an affable attorney named Stuart Bowen, went to work and came up with a report in early 2006 that sounded scathing enough. Bowen found cases of double billing by contractors, of payments for work that was never done, and other scandals. But he never came up with more than $1 billion or so worth of problems.
Now we know why.

It turns out that Bowen was never really looking very hard.

When the Boston Globe, this past April, broke the story that President Bush has been quietly setting aside over 750 acts passed by Congress, claiming he has the authority as "unitary executive" and as commander in chief to ignore such laws, it turned out that one of the laws the president chose to ignore was the one establishing the special inspector general post for Iraq. What the president did was write a so-called "signing statement" on the side (unpublicized of course), saying that the new inspector general would have no authority to investigate any contracts or corruption issues involving the Pentagon.
Well, since most of the missing money has been going to the military in Iraq, that pretty much meant nothing of consequence would be discovered by the inspector general.

there's more:(doing an A Lunatic c/p)
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You might think that the inspector general himself would have complained about such a restriction on his authority to do the job that Congress had intended, but Bush took care of that. In his role as Chief Executive, he appointed Bowen to the post, a man who has a long history of working as a loyal manservant to the president. Bowen was a deputy general counsel for Governor Bush (meaning he was an assistant to the ever solicitous solicitor Alberto Gonzales). He did yeoman service to Bush as a member of the term that handled the famous vote count atrocity in Florida in the November 2000 election, and then worked under Gonzales again in the White House during Bush’s first term, before returning briefly to private practice.

Bowen simply never mentioned to anyone that, courtesy of a secretive and unconstitutional order from the president, he was not doing the job that Congress had intended.

The deception was far-reaching. When Thomas Gimble, the acting inspector general of the Pentagon, was asked in 2005 during a congressional hearing by Christopher Shays (R-CT), chair of the House government reform subcommittee, why the Pentagon had no audit team in Iraq to look for fraud, Gimble facilely replied that such a team was "not needed" because Congress had set up the special inspector general unit to do that. He didn’t mention that the president had barred the special inspector general from investigating Pentagon scandals.

This would all be pretty funny except for two things.

First of all, Americans and Iraqis are dying in droves because of the chaos that the U.S. invasion and occupation have created in Iraq-a problem that that $9 billion in missing Congressionally-allocated funds, and the bales of US dollars, were supposed to have solved.

Second, and I admit this is pretty speculative on my part, money being like water, it tends to flow to the lowest level, which, from a moral and ethical standpoint, would be the Bush/Cheney administration and the Republican Party machine that put them, and the do-nothing Congress that covers up for them, into office.

My guess is that a fair piece of those many billions of dollars is sloshing around back in the U.S. paying for things like Republican Party electoral dirty tricks, vote theft, bribing of Democratic members of Congress, and god knows what else.

If this seems far-fetched to anyone, remember that this administration has included a number of people who were linked to the Reagan-era Iran-Contra scandal, when the creative-and criminal-idea was conceived of secretly selling Pentagon stocks of shoulder-fired Stinger anti-aircraft missiles to Iran, and using the proceeds to secretly fund the U.S.-trained and organized Contra fighters who were fighting to topple the Sandinista government in Nicaragua (Congress had inconveniently banned any U.S. aid to the Contras).

It seems to me inconceivable that this corrupt and obsessively power-mad administration would have passed up an opportunity to get its hands on some of the easy money flowing into Iraq over the course of the last three years.

Given all this, it seems almost unfathomable that Democratic Party leaders would be insisting, as have Rep. Nancy Pelosi (R-CA) and Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV), Democratic leaders of the House and Senate, that there would be no impeachment hearings in Congress if Democrats were to succeed in winning back Congress this November.

What better way to follow that money than an impeachment hearing into why the president unconstitutionally subverted the intent of Congress in establishing an office of special inspector general for corruption in Iraq?

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haha We KNOW you are full of it. No thinking about it. Racist zombie.
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RepubliCONS wrote:
Statistics on Muslims in the United States of America (USA)
For many years the Muslim community in America had been a small minority but today it is one of the fastest growing religions in the country. Muslims first came to America in the 1860&#8242;s from Syria and Lebanon. Today it is estimated that there are between 6 to 7 million Muslims in America, roughly 2% of the entire population.
Wow, look at all the Dem votes we could get from them if the repukes keep violating their American right.
The first official mosque was built in Cedar Rapids, Iowa in 1934. Today, according to the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) based in Washington DC, there are more than 1,209 known mosques throughout America.
http://www.30-days.net/muslims/muslims-in/ame...
Question
How many Muslim Americans were killed in the 911 attack?
Answer
More than 60 Muslim Americans have been reported to have died in the September 11th attack, though it is stated that the list has not been completed.
http://answerparty.com/question/answer/how-ma...
How many Muslims serve in the us army?
Answer:
about 15000 soldiers
Dare you lemming losers to check the list out. Research your own site or click and see HOW MANY there are. hahaha Bet some of your favorite people are Muslims.
List of American Muslims
Jawed Karim –Co-founder of Youtube
Dave Chappelle – standup comedian
Casey Kasem For years an American Druze radio personality known for his top forty DJ format.
Ice Cube – Rapper and producer
Jermaine Jackson – Singer, bass guitarist
Snoop Dogg – Rapper. ex member of the Nation Of Islam
Cat Stevens
Mehmet Oz – medical doctor, talk show host
(Dr. Oz for you idiot repukes.)
Iman – Supermodel and wife of David Bowie[86] Rima
Fakih – Miss USA 2010
André Carson – Congressman from Indiana
Keith Ellison – First Muslim congressman from Minnesota
Malcolm X (also known as El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz)– Civil rights activist
Muhammad Ali
Mike Tyson
Shaquille O'Neal – Player for the Boston Celtics
Nazr Mohammed – Player for the Charlotte Bobcats
(and UK Wildcat)
Rasheed Wallace
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American...
Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression
http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html
The United States Constitution addresses the issue of religion in two places: in the First Amendment, and the Article VI prohibition on religious tests as a condition for holding public office. The First Amendment prohibits the federal government from making a law "respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" This provision was later expanded to state and local governments, through the Incorporation of the Fourteenth Amendment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_relig...
Got that loons? the Constitution and Bill of Rights are not just for teabagging repukes.
But by all means, carry on your racist intolerance gloom and doom while the rest of America moves FORWARD. That would be the MAJORITY. Got that?
Main Entry: ma·jor·i·ty
Pronunciation: m-jr-t-,-jär-
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -ties
2 a : a number or percentage greater than half of a total b : the amount by which such a number exceeds the smaller number
3 : the group or party that makes up the greater part of a whole body of persons
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Lets try again...

All -Muslims-are not TERRORISTS!
Did you get that?

Now,
All -TERRORIST- are Muslims!

Read it very slow...you'll get it...!
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IRS is targeting Conservatives, Churches, what about liberals, Mosques or Muslim groups, anyone?
Bush's IRS already did that Zombie...where were you. Love how you hypocrites have selective memory.

PolitiFact: Did IRS target liberal groups during Bush administration?

"During the Bush administration, liberal groups were targeted" by the IRS, similar to recent targeting.

Rep. Jim McDermott, June 4, in a congressional hearing
At a House Ways and Means committee hearing, Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Wash., listened to the stories from members of groups that were snagged when the IRS cast a wide net for politically active organizations seeking tax-exempt status. All of the groups advocate for conservative causes, from opposing gay marriage to promoting a broad tea party agenda.

While McDermott said he was sorry they had been singled out, he was more focused on the lack of clear legal rules that should guide the IRS.

"Let's not get lost," McDermott said. "During the Bush administration, liberal groups were targeted without any concern by Mr. Issa or anyone else in this committee." (Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., is chair of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.)

Were liberal groups targeted when a Republican held the White House? And if so, were the circumstances back then similar to what has come to light today?

McDermott's office pointed us to a recent Salon article that described how the IRS subjected the NAACP, Greenpeace and a liberal Episcopal church in California to sometimes intense scrutiny. In 2004, the IRS audited the NAACP after its chairman said President George W. Bush was the first sitting president since Herbert Hoover who declined to speak before the group.
The same year, the IRS moved to revoke the tax-exempt status of All Saints Episcopal in Pasadena.

IRS SCANDAL
IRS Targeted Liberals Under Bush
NAACP and Greenpeace were given unwarranted attention

Most people are outraged that the IRS recently targeted 300 or more conservatives groups. Even liberals are mad. But we should keep a sense of proportion and recall that the IRS targeted liberal groups under President Bush, writes Alex Seitz-Wald in liberal mag Salon.

"In 2004, the IRS went after the NAACP, auditing the nation's oldest civil rights group after its chairman criticized President Bush for being the first sitting president since Herbert Hoover not to address the organization," writes Seitz-Wald. He quotes the then NAACP chairman: "It's pretty obvious that the complainant was someone who doesn't believe George Bush should be criticized, and it's obvious of their response that the IRS believes this, too."
In 2006, the IRS investigated Greenpeace at the instigation of a pressure group funded by Exxon Mobile.

In 2005 the Senate held a hearing on political activity by "social welfare" groups, at which it was noted that the IRS needed "to better define the lines between politics and social welfare," writes Seitz-Wald. Yet nothing was done. Meanwhile nonprofits experienced bizarre inconsistencies, like the non-profit Emerge America which was given non-profit status in Kentucky but denied it in Massachusetts, Maine, and Nevada.

Given that history, perhaps we should focus on the IRS's decades-long inconsistency and sloppy rules rather than attacking the agency for partisanship under Obama, Seitz-Wald's piece implies.
< http://politix.topix.com/homepage/6072-irs-ta... ;

Under Bush the IRS Targeted a Liberal Church for an Anti War Sermon
http://www.politicususa.com/2013/05/14/irs-ta...

Once again, I guess it's okay when your hero Bush did it huh?

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ObamaDontCare wrote:
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I think you're full of it!
I think you're an extremist. A radical extremist indeed.
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RepubliCONS wrote:
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Bush's IRS already did that Zombie...where were you. Love how you hypocrites have selective memory.
PolitiFact: Did IRS target liberal groups during Bush administration?
"During the Bush administration, liberal groups were targeted" by the IRS, similar to recent targeting.
Rep. Jim McDermott, June 4, in a congressional hearing
At a House Ways and Means committee hearing, Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Wash., listened to the stories from members of groups that were snagged when the IRS cast a wide net for politically active organizations seeking tax-exempt status. All of the groups advocate for conservative causes, from opposing gay marriage to promoting a broad tea party agenda.
While McDermott said he was sorry they had been singled out, he was more focused on the lack of clear legal rules that should guide the IRS.
"Let's not get lost," McDermott said. "During the Bush administration, liberal groups were targeted without any concern by Mr. Issa or anyone else in this committee." (Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., is chair of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.)
Were liberal groups targeted when a Republican held the White House? And if so, were the circumstances back then similar to what has come to light today?
McDermott's office pointed us to a recent Salon article that described how the IRS subjected the NAACP, Greenpeace and a liberal Episcopal church in California to sometimes intense scrutiny. In 2004, the IRS audited the NAACP after its chairman said President George W. Bush was the first sitting president since Herbert Hoover who declined to speak before the group.
The same year, the IRS moved to revoke the tax-exempt status of All Saints Episcopal in Pasadena.
IRS SCANDAL
IRS Targeted Liberals Under Bush
NAACP and Greenpeace were given unwarranted attention
Most people are outraged that the IRS recently targeted 300 or more conservatives groups. Even liberals are mad. But we should keep a sense of proportion and recall that the IRS targeted liberal groups under President Bush, writes Alex Seitz-Wald in liberal mag Salon.
"In 2004, the IRS went after the NAACP, auditing the nation's oldest civil rights group after its chairman criticized President Bush for being the first sitting president since Herbert Hoover not to address the organization," writes Seitz-Wald. He quotes the then NAACP chairman: "It's pretty obvious that the complainant was someone who doesn't believe George Bush should be criticized, and it's obvious of their response that the IRS believes this, too."
In 2006, the IRS investigated Greenpeace at the instigation of a pressure group funded by Exxon Mobile.
In 2005 the Senate held a hearing on political activity by "social welfare" groups, at which it was noted that the IRS needed "to better define the lines between politics and social welfare," writes Seitz-Wald. Yet nothing was done. Meanwhile nonprofits experienced bizarre inconsistencies, like the non-profit Emerge America which was given non-profit status in Kentucky but denied it in Massachusetts, Maine, and Nevada.
Given that history, perhaps we should focus on the IRS's decades-long inconsistency and sloppy rules rather than attacking the agency for partisanship under Obama, Seitz-Wald's piece implies.
< http://politix.topix.com/homepage/6072-irs-ta... ;
Under Bush the IRS Targeted a Liberal Church for an Anti War Sermon
http://www.politicususa.com/2013/05/14/irs-ta...
Once again, I guess it's okay when your hero Bush did it huh?
CLINTON 2016
DITCH MITCH 2014
Lets try again ...

It is WRONG Republicans or Democrats ...for IRS to target anyone. IRS should be NEUTRAL, collecting taxes and treat everyone same...

Get that Obama zombie!

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