Guess the teabagging idiot couldn't read the response the first time. What a grandrand upstage campaigning for his teabaggers. hahahaFunny watching the GOP lineup for candidates holding up Congress with their "drone" speeches, that is until the idiot from Ky had to take a shit. Priceless
Grandstanding for political gain...that's the teabagging party for you. Won't help. Brennan will still get confirmed and the drone policy will still stand.
Holder: Yep, Obama could kill Americans on U.S. soil
President Barack Obama has the legal authority to unleash deadly force—such as drone strikes—against Americans on U.S. soil without first putting them on trial, Attorney General Eric Holder wrote in a letter released Tuesday.
But Holder, writing to Republican Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky, underlined that Obama “has no intention” of targeting his fellow citizens with unmanned aerial vehicles and would do so only if facing “an extraordinary circumstance.”
Paul had asked the Obama administration on Feb. 20 whether the president "has the power to authorize lethal force, such as a drone strike, against a U.S. citizen on U.S. soil and without trial." On Tuesday, he denounced Holder's response as “frightening” and “an affront to the Constitutional due process rights of all Americans.”
“The U.S. government has not carried out drone strikes in the United States and has no intention of doing so,” Holder assured Paul in the March 4, 2013 letter. The attorney general also underlined that “we reject the use of military force where well-established law enforcement authorities in this country provide the best means for incapacitating a terrorist threat.”
Holder added:“The question you have posed is therefore entirely hypothetical, unlikely to occur, and one we hope no President will ever have to confront."
But "it is possible, I suppose to imagine an extraordinary circumstance in which it would be necessary and appropriate under the Constitution and applicable laws of the United States for the President to authorize the military to use lethal force within the territory of the United States,"
Holder said. "For example, the President could conceivably have no choice but to authorize the military to use such force if necessary to protect the homeland in the circumstances of a catastrophic attack” like Pearl Harbor or 9/11.
“Were such an emergency to arise, I would examine the particular facts and circumstances before advising the President on the scope of this authority,” said Holder.
Paul, whose office released the letter, denounced the attorney general’s comments.
"The U.S. Attorney General's refusal to rule out the possibility of drone strikes on American citizens and on American soil is more than frightening—it is an affront the Constitutional due process rights of all Americans," the senator said in a statement.
The exchange came as the White House agreed to give Senate Intelligence Committee members access to all of the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel opinions justifying Obama's expanded campaign of targeted assassination of suspected terrorists overseas, including American citizens.
Some lawmakers had warned they would try to block top Obama counterterrorism adviser John Brennan's nomination to head the CIA unless they were able to see the memos.
A few hours after the White House agreed to share the information, the committee approved Brennan 12-3, setting the stage for a full Senate vote.
Obama's drone war—relatively popular at home, reviled across the Muslim world—has drawn fresh scrutiny ever since NBC News obtained and published a Justice Department memo that lays out the legal justification behind it. The White House has defended the policy as “necessary,”“ethical” and “wise.” But civil liberties champions have sharply criticized it.
"Fox News Sunday" is heading to Louisville, Ky. Jack Conway, Kentucky's attorney general and the Democratic candidate for Senate , and Rand Paul, the Republican nominee and son of Representative Ron Paul, Republican of Texas, have agreed to a live debate on "Fox News Sunday" on Oct.3 at 9 a.m. (Eastern time).
Join the discussion below, or Read more at thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com.
#84946 Mar 7, 2013
#84947 Mar 7, 2013
Well, surprise, surprise...my answer to uncle fatty won't post. Hmmm lol I'll try again.
#84948 Mar 7, 2013
You Teabagie birther gloom and doomers usually deny listening to rush.
Back when you were repeating EVERYthing he said word for word on the false gun grab you all were crying about, I pointed out you were doing a rush word for word rerun here. I think you denied you listened to rush back then.
But hey.... No biggie.... You all suck his koolaid down like fat kid eatin ....... Koolaid!
#84949 Mar 7, 2013
Fabricate their own news, then they can't spell it.
#84950 Mar 7, 2013
McCain, Graham rebuke Sen. Paul for filibuster over drones
On Thursday Paul received a letter from Attorney General Eric Holder saying that the president does not have the authority "to use a weaponized drone to kill an American not engaged in combat on American soil."
duh, was it colored for him too and with the big second grade paper and large letters to help him connect the dots...what an idiot
Graham scoffed at Paul’s question about whether Obama thinks he has the authority to kill a noncombatant American citizen on U.S. soil.
“I find the question offensive,” Graham said Thursday on the Senate floor.“As much I disagree with President Obama and as much as I support past presidents, I do not believe that question deserves an answer.” Paul’s question, the South Carolina Republican said,“cheapens the debate.”
Graham said flatly that Obama would not use a drone against a noncombatant sitting in a café somewhere in the United States.
But there was less of a policy split that might have appeared on the surface: Paul repeatedly said during his filibuster that the government can and should use lethal force in cases when an attack is imminent.
When Holder testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee Wednesday he repeatedly said the use of a drone to kill an American citizen on U.S. soil who wasn’t an imminent threat wouldn’t be an “appropriate” use of lethal force.
After repeated questioning from Sen. Ted Cruz, R- Texas, Holder finally said it would also not be constitutional. Holder said,“I thought I was saying ‘no.’ All right, no.”
In his comments on the Senate floor Thursday, Graham reprised the points he made Wednesday during the Holder hearing.
Rand is teabagging idiot and it will backfire on him. Look how many GOP come to eat the junior teabagger hoping to run for President. hahahaha...Just too funny. They eat their own and we get to watch.
Sorry whitehair, he looks like a clown from KY, huffing and puffing his inability to understand the first time Holden told him. Too funny. I am sure there is more to come. 13hours he was holding it in is even funnier. hahaha
DITCH MITCH & THE GRANDRAND
#84951 Mar 7, 2013
Here's your answers although I have to warn you...you won't like these facts at all! lol I've added some more fun facts (that you never seem to want to discuss) just for the shit and giggles of it all uncle flabby. lol
*Under Clinton the average unemployment rate was 5.2%. Under Bush it was 5.3%. Under Obama...8% and holding. lol
*The velocity of money (very important indicator of economic health) has PLUNGED to a post World War II level.
*Real median household income has DECREASED by more than $4000.00 for every American family on Obama's watch.
*On Clinton's watch the number of drilling permits in the US(to wean America off foreign oil dependency) rose by 58%. On Bush's watch the permits rose 116%. On Obama's watch those permits have DECREASED BY 36% yet you claim Obama's policies have nothing to do with the continued high gas prices on Obama's watch.
*The average price of a gallon of gasoline was $1.85 the day Obama became president. The average price on Obama's watch?$3.71 a gallon.
*The USA has lost more than 300,00 education jobs on Barack Obama's watch.
I'll continue in another post so topis will allow these facts to be posted. lol
#84952 Mar 7, 2013
Rush and I usually have the same thoughts. Now Rush and I do part company on Free Trade.
Now for me being a Teabagger, no, I am much further to the right, I am somewhere between a Teabagger and an Anarchist.
#84953 Mar 7, 2013
More fun facts to amuse uncle flabby. lol
*For the first time since the post WWII era (on Obama's watch) the unemployment ratio has NOT bounced back after a recession.
*Here you go flabby...Under Obama US home values have fallen by another 12%.
*Another thorn in your side flabby...More than 3 times as many new homes were sold in the US in 2005 as were sold in 2012 under Obama's watchful eye. lol
*Since 2008 our econonmy has lost 1.3 million jobs and at the same time especially in the last 4 years under Obama 3.6 million more Americans have been added to the governments disability program. Sure makes that old saying that the people will not bite the hand that force feeds them a very true saying, huh?
*Obamacare will add 16 trillion more Americans to an already failing Medicaid program.
More fun facts in the next post!
#84954 Mar 7, 2013
Have to disagree with you.Holder would not come out and admit it was against the Constitution!!Yhat was what the entire act was all about.The simle fact is he then did come out and say it after the Paul`s filibuster!!!Make fun of him all you want,He was right,did what was right,and won!!!Of course mant do not like that from a conservative.I do.
#84955 Mar 7, 2013
*MORE THAN HALF OF ALL AMERICANS, NOW ON OBAMA'S 4 YEAR WATCH, ARE AT LEAST PARTIALLY FINANCIALLY DEPENDENT UPON THE GOVERNMENT.
*Obama has been traveling around the country claiming doom and gloom and blaming the republicans for HIS sequestration brain fart. Here are a couple of Obama's spending skills while blaming others for his failures. The Obama administration spent $592,527.00 on a study to determine why chimpanzee's throw their poop. The Obama administration gave 250 million dollars to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. The Obama administration gave the Muslim Brotherhood rebels in Syria 16 F16 jet fighters as a gift from Obama and the democrats.
*The US government, under Obama's leadership (??lol), ran a budget deficit of well over a trillion dollars EVERY YEAR that Obama has been president.
*Since Obama took office the US National Debt has INCREASED 50%.
*During the last 4 years of the Obama administration the US National Debt has grown MORE than it did from the time George Washington was president to the beginning of Bill Clinton's second term. And you and your ilk, uncle flabby, brag that Obama was right when he bragged that he was the slowest spending president ever. What a joke!
Hope you learned something. I know you won't be able to admit that I am right and these facts are all true but just knowing that you know they are true is enough satisfaction for me. Read 'em and weep kool-aid man! lmao
#84956 Mar 7, 2013
Where are you at flabby? You wanted answers and said you would be waiting. Wait no longer. I gave you the answers (facts) and now you have disappeared. Are you listening to Rush and can't be bothered right now? LMAO It's okay Unc. You've been very wrong on here before and hid your head for awhile and we didn't make too much fun of your ignorant ass for doing so.
#84957 Mar 7, 2013
#84958 Mar 7, 2013
Cuz of "trashy" material ...
WE are "not" made ...
#84959 Mar 7, 2013
#84960 Mar 7, 2013
It's NOT in them to BE satisfied!
I can copy/paste ...
I can make up my own lil ditties ...
They accuse me of copy/pasting ...
IOW ... They "whine"
Instead of "rats" they are
Keep on KEEPING on! <3
#84961 Mar 7, 2013
ok ... ;0)
#84962 Mar 7, 2013
Oh well, flabby was in such a rush for answers and I gave him those answers and now he is MIA! Typical. lol I will just go ahead and fix and eat dinner (food I worked for and bought with my money) and check back on our missing topix idiot after while. Maybe Uncle flabby is trying out a new government cheese recipe while he listens to Rush on the radio. lmao
#84963 Mar 7, 2013
I would guess that you would whitehair, you are a good faithful teabagger. One of the most respectful I have come in contact with. You got to understand whitehair the times we live in and if some of you would think for yourselves once in awhile you would see that. Fauxbox can spin it anyway they want to and it will still come out to what it is...randpaul grandstanding for the teaparty, not the GOP, but the teaparty, while wasting 13 hours babbling about Jane Fonda and plain ole folks eating dinner getting taken out by Obama along with his possible opponents campaigning is a joke. It was a hollywood joke and only ended to go run to the toilet. I hope he got his answer clearly in big letters so he could understand it. Terrorist live among us, if the President now, or 4 years (Jan 17) from now has to protect the American people by taking out some terrorist whether they be foreign or domestic then you damn right I don't have a problem with him taking them out. Get with the times. I don't care if they are so called American citizen, once they go over to the enemy and plot against our country and fellow citizens they deserve no rights. Is rush/beck and the fauxbox talking heads telling you all President Obama's sitting in the Oval Office picking people to send a drone after. Get real, how pathetic to think anyone would really believe that. Don't you people know how the government works? Maybe you can read the letter on grandrand's website and see if you understand the intent of the policy. Jeeze, whitehair, out of all the teabagging lemmings posting hate, gloom and doom on here, I would think that you could get it. There is a lot out there not known to us and if OUR PRSIDENT wants to ensure we are safe at home than I am all for it. That is HIS job. But by all means, continue to stress yourselves out and spread that frightwing bullshit, it won't change anything. Unless your parties warm up to Christie you don't stand a chance in the next election whether it be Hillary or Biden. Glad our party isn't divided. It doesn't win elections. So here read it on grandrand's site.
We won't forget
#84964 Mar 7, 2013
I'm not going to get caught up in your little game of answering a 150 question copy and paste.
I made THREE statements that you took all day to NOT answer and dig up a copy and paste.
You are the same as the rest of the idiots and NOME OF YOU CAN PROVE ANYTHING I SAID AS WRONG!!!
But to you idiots, copy and pasting what someone else out together is debating what I said??
And you wonder why you're losing elections and why republicans have the lowest approval ratings.
Keep on trying Shortbus Sybil!
#84965 Mar 7, 2013
You betcha :)
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