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#75792 Jan 19, 2013
remember back during the election when mitt romney said obozo wa outsourcing jeep jobs to china and all the leftwingwhackadoodles told you its a lie its a lie even factcheck the biggest liar in the world said its a lie, guess what folks it turns out it was true all along heres the story
Since: Dec 11
#75795 Jan 19, 2013
#75800 Jan 19, 2013
the middle east is not America, and libotards are always crying for democracy, middle east culture was not and still is not ready for a Constitutional Republic, as are not all the libotards that fight against it, so which is it, opening the flood gates for democracy in the middle east is good or bad, seems libotard responses only change with the tides of the argument, BAAAAAAAA
#75801 Jan 19, 2013
majority rule? ROTFL, not only did voter fraud rampid but oblamer lost 9 million votes from 2008 and we are not a democracy genius, you just outed yourself as an uninformed uneducated hick,
#75803 Jan 19, 2013
bush didnt open the flood gates to democracy, george w bush opened the flood gates to freedom, the freedom to choose for themselves something you leftwqingwhackadoodles will never be able to do
#75804 Jan 19, 2013
Hope and Change is now 'Cope and Strange',
#75807 Jan 19, 2013
You might be in need of some Reading Comprehension courses.
#75809 Jan 19, 2013
Not exactly true.
You are half right Bush is an embarrassent, But,
the difference is Bush is a liar and Paul is a truth teller.
Both parties dislike truth tellers, in collusion with corporate rightwing media and corporate mainstream media they disparaged and ridicule truth tellers.
Remember Ross Perot 1992? Howard Dean 2004? Jon Anderson in 1980?
Ron Paul Authentic Conservative
Ralph Nader Authentic Liberal
#75810 Jan 19, 2013
Al Qaeda resides in over 60 countries worldwide and the Dictators like in Egypt kept them down.
Now the Islams extremist are FREE because of George W. Bush.
BTW: Iraq had ZERO al Qaeda in 2003 and Saddam was contained and no threat.
Dumbya Bush FREED the Shites in Iraq who are loyal to Iran.
Gen. Anthony Zinni, USMC,(Ret.) Remarks at CDI Board of Directors Dinner, May 12, 2004 http://tinyurl.com/8ldmo
The sixth mistake, and maybe the biggest one, was propping up and trusting the exiles, the infamous "Gucci Guerillas" from London. We bought into their intelligence reports. To the credit of the CIA, they didn't buy into it, so I guess the Defense Department created its own boutique intelligence agency to vet them. And we ended up with a group that fed us bad information. That led us to believe that we would be welcomed with flowers in the streets; that led us to believe that this would be a cakewalk.
When I testified before Congress in 1998, after a grilling from Senator McCain and all those wonderful senators supported the Iraqi Liberation Act, and I told them that these guys are not credible and they are going to lead us into something they we will regret. At that time, they were pushing a plan that Central Command would supply air support and special forces, and we would put it into Iraq, and they would pied piper their way up to Baghdad and the whole place would fall apart. This plan was created by two senate staffers and a retired General. I happened to be the commander of central command, nobody bothered to ask me about how my troops would be used. And they were a little bit upset about me being upset about this.
These exiles did not have credibility inside the country or in the region. Not only did they not have credibility, it was clear that the information they were providing us many times was not correct and accurate. We believed in them. We also brought them in with us and deemed them into the governing council and the reception by Iraqis has been, to say the least, has not been great.
General Anthony Zinni, USMC,(Ret.) Remarks at CDI Board of Directors Dinner, May 12, 2004 http://tinyurl.com/8ldmo
I think the first mistake that was made was misjudging the success of containment. I heard the president say, not too long ago, I believe it was with the interview with Tim Russert that ... I'm not sure ... but at some point I heard him say that "containment did not work." That's not true.
So to say containment didn't work, I think is not only wrong from the experiences we had then, but the proof is in the pudding, in what kind of military our troops faced when we went in there.
The third mistake, I think was one we repeated from Vietnam, we had to create a false rationale for going in to get public support. The books were cooked, in my mind. The intelligence was not there. I testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee one month before the war, and Senator Lugar asked me: "General Zinni, do you feel the threat from Saddam Hussein is imminent?" I said: "No, not at all. It was not an imminent threat. Not even close. Not grave, gathering, imminent, serious, severe, mildly upsetting, none of those."
#75811 Jan 19, 2013
THE VIEW FROM CENTCOM....So what do former CENTCOM commanders think about the neocons and their war planning? Let's listen in:
General Joseph Hoar, 1991-1994: "Paul Wolfowitz is a very bright guy, but he doesn't know anything about war-fighting, and I suspect he knows less about counterinsurgency operations....I think that the neo-conservatives had their day, by selling to the President the need for invasion of Iraq. I think it's now time for a clean sweep—and it has been for some time, in my judgment—to get rid of these people."
General Anthony Zinni, 1997-2000: He believes the neocons, including Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz and Douglas Feith, the undersecretary of defense, have hijacked U.S. foreign policy: "In the lead-up to the Iraq war and its later conduct, I saw, at minimum, true dereliction, negligence and irresponsibility; at worst, lying, incompetence and corruption."
General Tommy Franks, 2000-2003: Doug Feith is "the fucking stupidest guy on the face of the earth."
General Binford Peay III, CENTCOM commander from 1994-1997, seems to have maintained a studious silence about the conduct of the war, perhaps understandable since he's now the chairman of the board of a defense contractor that, among other things, provides ammunition for the Army's Stryker brigades.
Still, that's a pretty remarkable record, isn't it? Three of the past four CENTCOM commanders, the guys who probably understand the military requirements of a war in the Middle East better than any other humans on the planet, think the people who planned this war are completely incompetent. Quite an accomplishment.
#75812 Jan 19, 2013
The ads were still a lie. Chrysler NEVER denied Jeeps sold in China were going to be made in China. What the ad said was that the production of American made Jeeps was going to be closed and moved to China. To this day that still is a lie.
#75813 Jan 19, 2013
The truth is most of the Middle East hates the West because they blame us for their Dictators which is partly true.
I agree with your assessment about culture and religion.
George W. Bush Freed the Billions of Islamic Masses and they still despise Dumbya Bush.
Daddy Bush kept American military on Saudi land after 1991 and WTC Bombing happened on Feb. 26, 1993.
GEORGE DUMBYA BUSH in 2003 Took down a dictator in Iraq which had nothing to do with September 11, 2001, and caused the Arab Spring December 18, 2010
Bring Back The Dictators because Dumbya Bush freed the Middle East.
Enclosed are 4 more liberals in YOUR opinion against war in Iraq.
James Baker: Don't go it alone with Iraq
http://tinyurl.com/9xxb8 /August 26, 2002
CRAWFORD, Texas (CNN)-- Former Secretary of State James Baker Sunday warned President Bush not to "go it alone" against Iraqi President Saddam Hussein. http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/08/2...
Don't Attack Saddam
It would undermine our antiterrorism efforts
BY GENERAL BRENT SCOWCROFT
August 15, 2002 / http://tinyurl.com/44u2d
Colin Powell Saying He Was Misled Before UN Speech on WMDs
Powell Says US Should Not Have Invaded Iraq
Gen. Colin Powell - "I Tried To Avoid This War."
General Norman Schwartzkopf : Iraq Quagmire For USA
General Norman Schwartzkopf : Iraq Quagmire For USA
Iraq Quagmire: That, George Bush, knew!
Republican Presidents Dereliction of Duty
Ronald Reagan, who did not retaliate for the murder of 278 United States Marines in Beirut and who violated his own terrorism policy by trading arms for hostages in what came to be called the Iran-Contra scandal; http://tinyurl.com/9s52o
George H.W. Bush, who did not retaliate for the Libyan murder of 259 passengers on Pan Am 103; who did not have an official counter terrorism policy; who left Saddam Hussein in place, requiring the United States to leave a large military presence in Saudi Arabia.
George W. Bush who did not alert the airports having known the CIA warning memo August 6, 2001: Usama bin Laden and al Qaeda determined to strike inside the United States. FBI warned John Ashcroft July 26, 2001 not to fly on commercial airlines.
#75814 Jan 19, 2013
And I see your side lost once again. You Betcha.
#75816 Jan 19, 2013
Excerpt from "Why We Didn't Remove Saddam" by George Bush [Sr.] and Brent Scowcroft, Time (2 March 1998):
While we hoped that popular revolt or coup would topple Saddam, neither the U.S. nor the countries of the region wished to see the breakup of the Iraqi state. We were concerned about the long-term balance of power at the head of the Gulf. Trying to eliminate Saddam, extending the ground war into an occupation of Iraq, would have violated our guideline about not changing objectives in midstream, engaging in "mission creep," and would have incurred incalculable human and political costs. Apprehending him was probably impossible. We had been unable to find Noriega in Panama, which we knew intimately. We would have been forced to occupy Baghdad and, in effect, rule Iraq. The coalition would instantly have collapsed, the Arabs deserting it in anger and other allies pulling out as well. Under those circumstances, furthermore, we had been self-consciously trying to set a pattern for handling aggression in the post-cold war world. Going in and occupying Iraq, thus unilaterally exceeding the U.N.'s mandate, would have destroyed the precedent of international response to aggression we hoped to establish. Had we gone the invasion route, the U.S. could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land. It would have been a dramatically different--and perhaps barren--outcome.
#75817 Jan 19, 2013
We see him for the fraud in which he is besides a traitor. Although, there is so many blinded Americans who cannot and will not accept the reality for what Obama really is.
This is very difficult to stomach.
#75819 Jan 19, 2013
You're uninformed and dead brain ...you have no idea who your president is and what he stands for!
#75821 Jan 19, 2013
I guess only you and a select sect of Americans know the Truth. Same shit we are always going to hear from you losers from now on no matter who the Democrat President may be. I wonder if any Democratic ever come up with all these hidden secrecy and conspiracy theories like you Repubs do?
#75822 Jan 19, 2013
#75823 Jan 19, 2013
The Black Panthers have been yearning for a war against the whites for some time. I believe there will be a civil war and soon. It can't go on much longer with this defamation of the whites in everything that happens.
#75824 Jan 19, 2013
Same as yours?
Curious George/Alfed E. Newman (Muslim Version).
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