'Fox News Sunday' to Host Kentucky Senate Debate

"Fox News Sunday" is heading to Louisville, Ky. Jack Conway, Kentucky's attorney general and the Democratic candidate for Senate , and Rand Paul, the Republican nominee and son of Representative Ron Paul, Republican of Texas, have agreed to a live debate on "Fox News Sunday" on Oct.3 at 9 a.m. (Eastern time).

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Commondreams org

Bay Shore, NY

#75785 Jan 19, 2013
R or D please wtf wrote:
<quoted text> thank you this is the mot sensible post on here and they will argue with you till the end but you are right!!!
Thank you for your kind words. Keep on fighting the good fight.

Semper Fi Keep Hope Alive!

Krav Maga
Commondreams org

Bay Shore, NY

#75786 Jan 19, 2013
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>we have never been a democracy, we are a Constitutioinal Republic.
You are correct and tell that to George W. Bush who opened the Floodgates for Democracy in the Middle East.
Commondreams org

Bay Shore, NY

#75787 Jan 19, 2013
Aristocles son of Ariston wrote:
<quoted text>
Still waiting...
We have many people who can point and bitch about problems; what we need are SOLUTIONS, I was hoping that you had some answers.
Number 1. Stop voting for the lesser of two evils.

Example 101: In 2008 I voted for Ron Paul in the primary and Ralph Nader in the General Election.

NOT MCCAIN AND NOT OBAMA.

Certainly not Romney and not Obama.

Number 2. The deck is stacked against every authentic conservative and every authentic liberal.

Proof 101:
No Debate: How the Republican and Democratic Parties Secretly Control the Presidential Debates / http://tinyurl.com/4q5vf8 / October 2, 2008
The Obama and McCain campaigns jointly negotiated a detailed, secret contract dictating the terms of all the 2008 debates. This includes who gets to participate as well as the topics raised during the debates. We speak to Open Debates founder and executive director George Farah.
Whats missing however is any concern about the fairness of the very structure of the debate. The Obama and McCain campaigns jointly negotiated a detailed contract dictating the terms of all the 2008 debates. This includes who gets to participate as well as the topics raised during the debates. But the contract remains secret and the Commission on Presidential Debates, a private corporation created by the two major parties, has refused to release the contract to the public.
Open Debates is a non-profit committed to democratizing the presidential debate process. Last month Open Debates and nine other pro-democracy groups called on the Commission to make the contract public.
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/10/2/no_deba...

Number 3. I already have told my friend ZOMBIE and now I will tell you.

FOLLOW THE MONEY and it almost always leads you to the truth.
Stop watching and listening to all the corporate talking air heads on TV and Radio.

Americans need a viable third and fourth party who will represent “We The People” instead of the wealthy few who own Congress!

Progressive Democrats / http://pdamerica.org/

Green Party / http://gp.org/index.php

Ralph Nader / http://www.votenader.org/

Ron Paul / http://www.campaignforliberty.com/

Libertarian Party / http://www.lp.org/

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AmericanMan

Russellville, KY

#75789 Jan 19, 2013
OBAMIES ZOMBIES wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama will be inaugurated on MLK, Jr. day...
Four more years Obama drama ...
Four more years Obama zombies ...
Four more years big a** Moochelle ...
God, help us all...and save us from evil...
Obama is not America's "friend" ...
When you voted for Obama, you voted for the BEAST ...good grief ...
People are so uninformed, lazy and blind.
A/L what is wrong with people?
And you and your kind are the American Taliban. You are against Freedoms that our laws allow and the Rights of Majority Rule after having one fair and open elections. In other words you are the exact opposite of everything America stands for.
TWA

London, KY

#75792 Jan 19, 2013
remember back during the election when mitt romney said obozo wa outsourcing jeep jobs to china and all the leftwingwhackadoodles told you its a lie its a lie even factcheck the biggest liar in the world said its a lie, guess what folks it turns out it was true all along heres the story
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/whoops-po...

Since: Dec 11

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#75795 Jan 19, 2013
>that< [than]
dems are retards

Lansing, MI

#75800 Jan 19, 2013
Commondreams org wrote:
<quoted text>
You are correct and tell that to George W. Bush who opened the Floodgates for Democracy in the Middle East.
the middle east is not America, and libotards are always crying for democracy, middle east culture was not and still is not ready for a Constitutional Republic, as are not all the libotards that fight against it, so which is it, opening the flood gates for democracy in the middle east is good or bad, seems libotard responses only change with the tides of the argument, BAAAAAAAA
dems are retards

Lansing, MI

#75801 Jan 19, 2013
AmericanMan wrote:
<quoted text>And you and your kind are the American Taliban. You are against Freedoms that our laws allow and the Rights of Majority Rule after having one fair and open elections. In other words you are the exact opposite of everything America stands for.
majority rule? ROTFL, not only did voter fraud rampid but oblamer lost 9 million votes from 2008 and we are not a democracy genius, you just outed yourself as an uninformed uneducated hick,
TWA

London, KY

#75803 Jan 19, 2013
bush didnt open the flood gates to democracy, george w bush opened the flood gates to freedom, the freedom to choose for themselves something you leftwqingwhackadoodles will never be able to do
dems are retards

Lansing, MI

#75804 Jan 19, 2013
Hope and Change is now 'Cope and Strange',

BAAAAAAAAAAA
Commondreams org

Bay Shore, NY

#75807 Jan 19, 2013
Aristocles son of Ariston wrote:
<quoted text>
I am disappointed.
Still yet the cut/paste is not discernible from any original thoughts. You still carry on about problems without providing at least a plan...to solve the problems.
It's like a person ask you for a map or at least directions and you pull out Sears catalogue and show them kitchen utensils.
I said no links needed and still you give us more?
I am more interested in answers that "programmed responses".
You might be in need of some Reading Comprehension courses.
Commondreams org

Bay Shore, NY

#75809 Jan 19, 2013
AmericanMan wrote:
<quoted text>They didn't allow Paul to speak at the GOP convention for the same reason they did not allow President Bush. Most Repubs are an embarrassment to the rest of the nation. You Betcha!
Not exactly true.

You are half right Bush is an embarrassent, But,

the difference is Bush is a liar and Paul is a truth teller.

Both parties dislike truth tellers, in collusion with corporate rightwing media and corporate mainstream media they disparaged and ridicule truth tellers.

Remember Ross Perot 1992? Howard Dean 2004? Jon Anderson in 1980?

Ron Paul Authentic Conservative
http://tinyurl.com/3ldue3
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/

Ralph Nader Authentic Liberal
http://tinyurl.com/2powf
http://www.votenader.org
Commondreams org

Bay Shore, NY

#75810 Jan 19, 2013
TWA wrote:
bush didnt open the flood gates to democracy, george w bush opened the flood gates to freedom, the freedom to choose for themselves something you leftwqingwhackadoodles will never be able to do
Al Qaeda resides in over 60 countries worldwide and the Dictators like in Egypt kept them down.

Now the Islams extremist are FREE because of George W. Bush.

BTW: Iraq had ZERO al Qaeda in 2003 and Saddam was contained and no threat.

Dumbya Bush FREED the Shites in Iraq who are loyal to Iran.

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Gen. Anthony Zinni, USMC,(Ret.) Remarks at CDI Board of Directors Dinner, May 12, 2004 http://tinyurl.com/8ldmo
The sixth mistake, and maybe the biggest one, was propping up and trusting the exiles, the infamous "Gucci Guerillas" from London. We bought into their intelligence reports. To the credit of the CIA, they didn't buy into it, so I guess the Defense Department created its own boutique intelligence agency to vet them. And we ended up with a group that fed us bad information. That led us to believe that we would be welcomed with flowers in the streets; that led us to believe that this would be a cakewalk.

When I testified before Congress in 1998, after a grilling from Senator McCain and all those wonderful senators supported the Iraqi Liberation Act, and I told them that these guys are not credible and they are going to lead us into something they we will regret. At that time, they were pushing a plan that Central Command would supply air support and special forces, and we would put it into Iraq, and they would pied piper their way up to Baghdad and the whole place would fall apart. This plan was created by two senate staffers and a retired General. I happened to be the commander of central command, nobody bothered to ask me about how my troops would be used. And they were a little bit upset about me being upset about this.
These exiles did not have credibility inside the country or in the region. Not only did they not have credibility, it was clear that the information they were providing us many times was not correct and accurate. We believed in them. We also brought them in with us and deemed them into the governing council and the reception by Iraqis has been, to say the least, has not been great.
http://www.cdi.org/program/document.cfm...

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General Anthony Zinni, USMC,(Ret.) Remarks at CDI Board of Directors Dinner, May 12, 2004 http://tinyurl.com/8ldmo

I think the first mistake that was made was misjudging the success of containment. I heard the president say, not too long ago, I believe it was with the interview with Tim Russert that ... I'm not sure ... but at some point I heard him say that "containment did not work." That's not true.

So to say containment didn't work, I think is not only wrong from the experiences we had then, but the proof is in the pudding, in what kind of military our troops faced when we went in there.

The third mistake, I think was one we repeated from Vietnam, we had to create a false rationale for going in to get public support. The books were cooked, in my mind. The intelligence was not there. I testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee one month before the war, and Senator Lugar asked me: "General Zinni, do you feel the threat from Saddam Hussein is imminent?" I said: "No, not at all. It was not an imminent threat. Not even close. Not grave, gathering, imminent, serious, severe, mildly upsetting, none of those."
http://www.cdi.org/program/document.cfm...
Commondreams org

Bay Shore, NY

#75811 Jan 19, 2013
THE VIEW FROM CENTCOM....So what do former CENTCOM commanders think about the neocons and their war planning? Let's listen in:
http://tinyurl.com/2rh9c

General Joseph Hoar, 1991-1994: "Paul Wolfowitz is a very bright guy, but he doesn't know anything about war-fighting, and I suspect he knows less about counterinsurgency operations....I think that the neo-conservatives had their day, by selling to the President the need for invasion of Iraq. I think it's now time for a clean sweep—and it has been for some time, in my judgment—to get rid of these people."

General Anthony Zinni, 1997-2000: He believes the neocons, including Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz and Douglas Feith, the undersecretary of defense, have hijacked U.S. foreign policy: "In the lead-up to the Iraq war and its later conduct, I saw, at minimum, true dereliction, negligence and irresponsibility; at worst, lying, incompetence and corruption."

General Tommy Franks, 2000-2003: Doug Feith is "the fucking stupidest guy on the face of the earth."
General Binford Peay III, CENTCOM commander from 1994-1997, seems to have maintained a studious silence about the conduct of the war, perhaps understandable since he's now the chairman of the board of a defense contractor that, among other things, provides ammunition for the Army's Stryker brigades.

Still, that's a pretty remarkable record, isn't it? Three of the past four CENTCOM commanders, the guys who probably understand the military requirements of a war in the Middle East better than any other humans on the planet, think the people who planned this war are completely incompetent. Quite an accomplishment.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/ind...
AmericanMan

Russellville, KY

#75812 Jan 19, 2013
TWA wrote:
remember back during the election when mitt romney said obozo wa outsourcing jeep jobs to china and all the leftwingwhackadoodles told you its a lie its a lie even factcheck the biggest liar in the world said its a lie, guess what folks it turns out it was true all along heres the story
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/whoops-po...
The ads were still a lie. Chrysler NEVER denied Jeeps sold in China were going to be made in China. What the ad said was that the production of American made Jeeps was going to be closed and moved to China. To this day that still is a lie.
Commondreams org

Bay Shore, NY

#75813 Jan 19, 2013
dems are retards wrote:
<quoted text>
the middle east is not America, and libotards are always crying for democracy, middle east culture was not and still is not ready for a Constitutional Republic, as are not all the libotards that fight against it, so which is it, opening the flood gates for democracy in the middle east is good or bad, seems libotard responses only change with the tides of the argument, BAAAAAAAA
The truth is most of the Middle East hates the West because they blame us for their Dictators which is partly true.

I agree with your assessment about culture and religion.

George W. Bush Freed the Billions of Islamic Masses and they still despise Dumbya Bush.

Daddy Bush kept American military on Saudi land after 1991 and WTC Bombing happened on Feb. 26, 1993.

GEORGE DUMBYA BUSH in 2003 Took down a dictator in Iraq which had nothing to do with September 11, 2001, and caused the Arab Spring December 18, 2010

Bring Back The Dictators because Dumbya Bush freed the Middle East.

Enclosed are 4 more liberals in YOUR opinion against war in Iraq.

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James Baker: Don't go it alone with Iraq
http://tinyurl.com/9xxb8 /August 26, 2002
CRAWFORD, Texas (CNN)-- Former Secretary of State James Baker Sunday warned President Bush not to "go it alone" against Iraqi President Saddam Hussein. http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/08/2...

Don't Attack Saddam
It would undermine our antiterrorism efforts
BY GENERAL BRENT SCOWCROFT
August 15, 2002 / http://tinyurl.com/44u2d
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/featu...

Colin Powell Saying He Was Misled Before UN Speech on WMDs
&fe ature=related

Powell Says US Should Not Have Invaded Iraq
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Gen. Colin Powell - "I Tried To Avoid This War."
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

General Norman Schwartzkopf : Iraq Quagmire For USA
http://tinyurl.com/ymngms
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

General Norman Schwartzkopf : Iraq Quagmire For USA
Iraq Quagmire: That, George Bush, knew!
http://tinyurl.com/2q9ex6
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Republican Presidents Dereliction of Duty
Ronald Reagan, who did not retaliate for the murder of 278 United States Marines in Beirut and who violated his own terrorism policy by trading arms for hostages in what came to be called the Iran-Contra scandal; http://tinyurl.com/9s52o

George H.W. Bush, who did not retaliate for the Libyan murder of 259 passengers on Pan Am 103; who did not have an official counter terrorism policy; who left Saddam Hussein in place, requiring the United States to leave a large military presence in Saudi Arabia.

George W. Bush who did not alert the airports having known the CIA warning memo August 6, 2001: Usama bin Laden and al Qaeda determined to strike inside the United States. FBI warned John Ashcroft July 26, 2001 not to fly on commercial airlines.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/07/26/nat...
AmericanMan

Russellville, KY

#75814 Jan 19, 2013
dems are retards wrote:
<quoted text>
majority rule? ROTFL, not only did voter fraud rampid but oblamer lost 9 million votes from 2008 and we are not a democracy genius, you just outed yourself as an uninformed uneducated hick,
And I see your side lost once again. You Betcha.
Commondreams org

Bay Shore, NY

#75816 Jan 19, 2013
Excerpt from "Why We Didn't Remove Saddam" by George Bush [Sr.] and Brent Scowcroft, Time (2 March 1998):
While we hoped that popular revolt or coup would topple Saddam, neither the U.S. nor the countries of the region wished to see the breakup of the Iraqi state. We were concerned about the long-term balance of power at the head of the Gulf. Trying to eliminate Saddam, extending the ground war into an occupation of Iraq, would have violated our guideline about not changing objectives in midstream, engaging in "mission creep," and would have incurred incalculable human and political costs. Apprehending him was probably impossible. We had been unable to find Noriega in Panama, which we knew intimately. We would have been forced to occupy Baghdad and, in effect, rule Iraq. The coalition would instantly have collapsed, the Arabs deserting it in anger and other allies pulling out as well. Under those circumstances, furthermore, we had been self-consciously trying to set a pattern for handling aggression in the post-cold war world. Going in and occupying Iraq, thus unilaterally exceeding the U.N.'s mandate, would have destroyed the precedent of international response to aggression we hoped to establish. Had we gone the invasion route, the U.S. could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land. It would have been a dramatically different--and perhaps barren--outcome.
Reality

Frankfort, KY

#75817 Jan 19, 2013
Jay wrote:
<quoted text>
**********
And ......add to that:
Fast and Furious!
How many dead innocent Mexican people and youngsters? Do they have a head count yet Mr. Holder?
Tabled?
Waiting for Hillary to get better?


We see him for the fraud in which he is besides a traitor. Although, there is so many blinded Americans who cannot and will not accept the reality for what Obama really is.

This is very difficult to stomach.
OBAMIES ZOMBIES

Los Angeles, CA

#75819 Jan 19, 2013
AmericanMan wrote:
<quoted text>And you and your kind are the American Taliban. You are against Freedoms that our laws allow and the Rights of Majority Rule after having one fair and open elections. In other words you are the exact opposite of everything America stands for.
You're uninformed and dead brain ...you have no idea who your president is and what he stands for!

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