Open carry of a handgun

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ProudlyArmed

Winchester, KY

#1 May 18, 2010
Do you think it should be encouraged? Do you know the law?
Liberal

Barbourville, KY

#2 May 18, 2010
IN PLAIN SIGHT,YOU CAN CARRY A GUN.NO I DONT THINK IT SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED.BUT IT SHOULD NOT BE ILLEGAL EITHER.
geezer

London, KY

#3 May 18, 2010
ProudlyArmed wrote:
Do you think it should be encouraged? Do you know the law?
Its legal but if you are ever in a place as its being robbed guess who would be the first target? best to get a ccdw and carry concealed.
ProudlyArmed

Winchester, KY

#4 May 18, 2010
I have my ccdw but I am starting to open carry too just to see what reaction it gets. The thing about the situation mentioned above is this, would that particular place be getting robbed if it was full of individuals who were obviously armed?

“Somewhere in Time”

Since: Dec 09

Cannon, KY

#5 May 18, 2010
I have one i carry everywhere i go.

I have posted a picture of me holding it in my avatar just under my headline.
REBEL

Barbourville, KY

#6 May 18, 2010
ProudlyArmed wrote:
I have my ccdw but I am starting to open carry too just to see what reaction it gets. The thing about the situation mentioned above is this, would that particular place be getting robbed if it was full of individuals who were obviously armed?
I think if we all carried openly then it would be a more "polite" place to live in!
Geek

London, KY

#7 May 18, 2010
ProudlyArmed wrote:
I have my ccdw but I am starting to open carry too just to see what reaction it gets. The thing about the situation mentioned above is this, would that particular place be getting robbed if it was full of individuals who were obviously armed?
The only place I've ever been to that was full of individuals who were obviously armed was a police station. You will have the upper hand if the bad guy doesn't know you are armed. If you think you are going to deter a crime because some one sees you are armed explain why so many police officers a shot each year. Please use your ccdw, open carry doesn't make you look more mocho nor does it impress anyone. It just shows no common sense.
You really don't realize the number of people you pass by every day that are armed because they don't advertise the fact.

“"DANGER CLOSE!"”

Since: Apr 10

Louisville Ky

#8 May 19, 2010
Geek wrote:
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The only place I've ever been to that was full of individuals who were obviously armed was a police station. You will have the upper hand if the bad guy doesn't know you are armed. If you think you are going to deter a crime because some one sees you are armed explain why so many police officers a shot each year. Please use your ccdw, open carry doesn't make you look more mocho nor does it impress anyone. It just shows no common sense.
You really don't realize the number of people you pass by every day that are armed because they don't advertise the fact.
Well said, I agree.
ProudlyArmed

United States

#9 May 19, 2010
You guys fail to understand what I am asking. I understand that you have the upperhand when carrying concealed. What I am wondering is if the crime rate would drop if everyone that carried done it openly.

As far as police getting shot, think about this. Someone has just robbed a store. The cops show up and he fights back because he has allready commited a crime and is looking at imprisonment if caught. If he had looked in the store before he robbed it and saw that most were armed he would have backed out no harm no foul.

*The reason I am asking is the fact that over the last year there have been many misunderstandings on the part of LEOs concerning the legality of open carry in KY. Their are also many local level laws that are unconstitutional and that directly violate state law concerning firearms, both open acnd concealed. I want to know if their are enough supporters in this area to get some of the problems takin care of.
Shirley Ujest

London, KY

#10 May 19, 2010
ProudlyArmed wrote:
You guys fail to understand what I am asking. I understand that you have the upperhand when carrying concealed. What I am wondering is if the crime rate would drop if everyone that carried done it openly.
Fender benders wouldn't turn into fist fights. They would turn into gun fights.

You give people an inch they will take a mile. Keep you guns at home. I don't know you or trust you with my life.

Its all about ego. The feeling you get wearing it. Tough guy everyone is admiring. Toy cop. People around here know you don't need a gun to go to walmart...well unless the meth heads start wearing them.
ProudlyArmed

United States

#12 May 19, 2010
Shirley Ujest wrote:
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Fender benders wouldn't turn into fist fights. They would turn into gun fights.
You give people an inch they will take a mile. Keep you guns at home. I don't know you or trust you with my life.
Its all about ego. The feeling you get wearing it. Tough guy everyone is admiring. Toy cop. People around here know you don't need a gun to go to walmart...well unless the meth heads start wearing them.
I have carried a gun for 11yrs and only pulled it on one person. That was in a stop and shop in MS and it probably saved several lives as I was able to detain the gentleman until the MSSP arrived. What you have to realize is the fact that druggies and theives are carrying them, why shouldn't the good citizens be able to protect themselves. Remember the police are only a cleanup crew, you are responsible for your own protection.

“"DANGER CLOSE!"”

Since: Apr 10

Louisville Ky

#13 May 19, 2010
I have no doubts that it would cut down on crimes like Campus shootings, and many home invasions for that matter. People tend to loose heart once they feel like they might be shot up.

On the other hand (and there's always another hand) with as many idiots that we have in this area, there may be an added potential for wild west road rage, and more shoot outs then we already have in the mountains. I personally don't mind if Darwin's theory manifests itself in some mountain shootouts, but I have found through personal experience, that if one gets in the habit of carrying a pistol, then they are much more likely to at the least pull it out in situations where you normally do such and it can be anything but helpful.

I understand your premise, and have thought about it myself. I suppose you would have to assess the pros and cons.

“"DANGER CLOSE!"”

Since: Apr 10

Louisville Ky

#14 May 19, 2010
Where you wouldn't normally do such***

“"DANGER CLOSE!"”

Since: Apr 10

Louisville Ky

#15 May 19, 2010
ProudlyArmed wrote:
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I have carried a gun for 11yrs and only pulled it on one person. That was in a stop and shop in MS and it probably saved several lives as I was able to detain the gentleman until the MSSP arrived. What you have to realize is the fact that druggies and theives are carrying them, why shouldn't the good citizens be able to protect themselves. Remember the police are only a cleanup crew, you are responsible for your own protection.
With all do respect, everyone is not like you. Most people have no problem with that concept when talking about other races. I realize the need to protect oneself, so by all means carry.

Most druggies and thieves sell stolen guns.
ProudlyArmed

United States

#16 May 19, 2010
LMCinfantry wrote:
I have no doubts that it would cut down on crimes like Campus shootings, and many home invasions for that matter. People tend to loose heart once they feel like they might be shot up.
On the other hand (and there's always another hand) with as many idiots that we have in this area, there may be an added potential for wild west road rage, and more shoot outs then we already have in the mountains. I personally don't mind if Darwin's theory manifests itself in some mountain shootouts, but I have found through personal experience, that if one gets in the habit of carrying a pistol, then they are much more likely to at the least pull it out in situations where you normally do such and it can be anything but helpful.
I understand your premise, and have thought about it myself. I suppose you would have to assess the pros and cons.
Hmmmmm, something to think about.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

http://www.panoramio.com/user/

#17 May 19, 2010
Geek wrote:
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The only place I've ever been to that was full of individuals who were obviously armed was a police station. You will have the upper hand if the bad guy doesn't know you are armed. If you think you are going to deter a crime because some one sees you are armed explain why so many police officers a shot each year. Please use your ccdw, open carry doesn't make you look more mocho nor does it impress anyone. It just shows no common sense.
You really don't realize the number of people you pass by every day that are armed because they don't advertise the fact.
I tend to carry open when on the bike or walking around then cover when going into a restaurant or any place where there's lots of people and here's why.. Its preferred by the cops... I have talked about this with John and other police officers I know and their view is that if you carry they would prefer Knowing it when your out and about when they might make contact. The view they have told me is that when they see an open carry they tend to think the person is "Clean" as they would not open carry if they were doing bad stuff and with open carry you know where the weapon is and can know what your dealing with on a stop. But I do cover when in a crowd or in a shop/restaurant just to keep those that get all squishy inside at the sight of a weapon from running for the exits...

If someone thinks its a macho thing that's their problem. Not mine..

Common sense is not so common .. and is why I carry in the first place...

“Somewhere in Time”

Since: Dec 09

Cannon, KY

#18 May 19, 2010
Hell infantry, you have had hand to hand combat training...you probably know how to kill a man with your bare hands if you wanted...
LMCinfantry wrote:
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With all do respect, everyone is not like you. Most people have no problem with that concept when talking about other races. I realize the need to protect oneself, so by all means carry.
Most druggies and thieves sell stolen guns.
You probably don't really need a gun to start with.

“"DANGER CLOSE!"”

Since: Apr 10

Louisville Ky

#19 May 19, 2010
haha, I've never gotten the chance to use any of it believe or not. Only for training or pissin contests with the guys. It's nice to know, but I suppose you guys feel the same way about guns. I'm not against anything that's not illegal, but many people are just not responsible.
Shirley Ujest

London, KY

#20 May 19, 2010
ProudlyArmed wrote:
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Remember the police are only a cleanup crew, you are responsible for your own protection.
...and to protect myself I rather not have people walking around carrying handguns openly in a country where Sarah Palin almost became Vice President.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

http://www.panoramio.com/user/

#21 May 19, 2010
Shirley Ujest wrote:
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...and to protect myself I rather not have people walking around carrying handguns openly in a country where Sarah Palin almost became Vice President.
Then maybe you should move to San Fransisco or NY.. What I don't understand is why if your views are as you seem to portray you live in an area where the vast Majority find those view abhorrent... I have lived many places and even lived a year in Seattle.. I found the local mind set of the Majority Abhorrent so I gave up a rather good position and moved to an area that more fit my world view. There is not enough money to get me to live in San Fransisco or NY .. So the question is what keeps you in an area where Your world view is thought to be abhorrent by the Majority... there has to be a reason ...

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