Do you believein, or have you seen an UFO?

[America-usa]

What do you think?

[the HooDooGuru]

I don't believe in so called "UFO's" but however, I do believe there are vehicles of some kind like this in the bible. Ezekiel chapter1 Amber - Greek = Highly Polished Bronze and they were circular, and the Throne of God was apon it. This may have been what spirit was refering to about pastor murray. And he has a study called vehicles of the bible but he doesn't call em' UFO's. They say the closest planet to ours that could sustain life, is like 100 billion light years away, ok a light year is how long it takes you to travel at the speed of light in a year! So it would take anything from some other planet what? 20 or 30 million years to get here? How could they do this? The answer is they don't exsist. Only God himself could build a vehicle to travel this way. "the little green guru"

[Spirit_777]

I have seen a few yes ! But I did not see Gods throne nor did i speak to God in a UFO... God has revealed to me where UFO's come from . Seems everyone who comes in contact with UFO's are led into harms way , they are deceived even at the sight of them.

[the HooDooGuru]

Spirit_777 wrote:

I have seen a few yes ! But I did not see Gods throne nor did i speak to God in a UFO... God has revealed to me where UFO's come from . Seems everyone who comes in contact with UFO's are led into harms way , they are deceived even at the sight of them.

Have you really seen UFO's?? Tell me about them spirit. If your serious, I enjoy hearing stories like this. "the Kingdom of the crystal guru"

[haha]

Spirit_777 wrote:

I have seen a few yes ! But I did not see Gods throne nor did i speak to God in a UFO... God has revealed to me where UFO's come from . Seems everyone who comes in contact with UFO's are led into harms way , they are deceived even at the sight of them.

UFO my ass..You dumass, you have not seen no UFO.airplanes have light you know..lol

[tiredncranky]

theblackvault.com this is an awesome site about ufos

[Spirit_777]

the HooDooGuru wrote:

<quoted text>Have you really seen UFO's?? Tell me about them spirit. If your serious, I enjoy hearing stories like this. "the Kingdom of the crystal guru"

Yes i have and there is alot of deception being brought to those who witness them.
What Ezekiel seen was not the same as UFO's .. God is Holy and He cannot stand before any man , no man could see his face and live.
God appeared to Ezekiel covered in a craft like vehicle.
There is a specific discription given to us by Ezekiel about Gods appearance and no man has seen God come in this like fashion again . We are not told that God would appear again until His second coming .
satan is an agel of light ...he is the deceiver of all mankind . He is power and ruler of this earth , going to and fro and up and down in the earth. The prince of the power of the air ( earths atmosphere. We are warned of satans decptions , and how satan will appear in the clouds above the earth and be God to man.

Now UFO's are of another origin , they are fallen angels

[America-usa]

I have seen an UFO

[the HooDooGuru]

Spirit_777 wrote:

<quoted text>
Yes i have and there is alot of deception being brought to those who witness them.
What Ezekiel seen was not the same as UFO's .. God is Holy and He cannot stand before any man , no man could see his face and live.
God appeared to Ezekiel covered in a craft like vehicle.
There is a specific discription given to us by Ezekiel about Gods appearance and no man has seen God come in this like fashion again . We are not told that God would appear again until His second coming .
satan is an agel of light ...he is the deceiver of all mankind . He is power and ruler of this earth , going to and fro and up and down in the earth. The prince of the power of the air ( earths atmosphere. We are warned of satans decptions , and how satan will appear in the clouds above the earth and be God to man.
Now UFO's are of another origin , they are fallen angels

Spirit, i have a question about this word air? You say it means earths atmosphere but in my greek concordance i looked up the word "air" and it meant "breathe of life body" and or "spiritual body" in the greek. What verse or verses are you reading this from so i can look up the acual meaning of the word "air" in the way your using it, and yes i do know it calls satan "the prince of the air" And also, how do you know these so called ufo's are indeed the fallen angels? "the more curious than george ever was guru"

[Cherry]

I watched the movie, the fourth kind, on Friday. It was suppose to be a true story about aliens, but I think it's bogus. It was really creepy tho. I say if God can make us, what's to say he hasn't made others. If so, I want the aliens to be like ALF, he was so cute.

[Spirit_777]

the HooDooGuru wrote:

<quoted text>Spirit, i have a question about this word air? You say it means earths atmosphere but in my greek concordance i looked up the word "air" and it meant "breathe of life body" and or "spiritual body" in the greek. What verse or verses are you reading this from so i can look up the acual meaning of the word "air" in the way your using it, and yes i do know it calls satan "the prince of the air" And also, how do you know these so called ufo's are indeed the fallen angels? "the more curious than george ever was guru"

Epesians 2
2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
Isaiah 14
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
15 Yet you shall be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
2 corinthians 11
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
Galatians 1:
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

[Spirit_777]

the HooDooGuru wrote:

<quoted text>Spirit, i have a question about this word air? You say it means earths atmosphere but in my greek concordance i looked up the word "air" and it meant "breathe of life body" and or "spiritual body" in the greek. What verse or verses are you reading this from so i can look up the acual meaning of the word "air" in the way your using it, and yes i do know it calls satan "the prince of the air" And also, how do you know these so called ufo's are indeed the fallen angels? "the more curious than george ever was guru"

By their works and by Gods word .. Only one man seen God appear in a covering , Ezekiel and the vison Ezekiel gave us of Gods appearence tells us just exactly what Gods covering looked like.

No where in Gods word are we told to look for Christ to appear again as Ezekiel seen Him . When the Lord returns it will be The Day Of The Lord .. we are not looking for him to come and appear before men bringing new gospels that cause division in Gods church.
We are warned by God in His word that satan will come in the clouds ( clouds our atmosphere ) men will worship him as the most high.

[the HooDooGuru]

Spirit_777 wrote:

<quoted text>
Epesians 2
2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
Isaiah 14
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
15 Yet you shall be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
2 corinthians 11
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
Galatians 1:
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

Spirit, tell me more about those ufo's you have seen. Did you see them up close? How do you know they were ufo's? I think i saw yoda once one night off at a distance but i'm not for sure. "the guru"

[momoftween]

Cherry wrote:

I watched the movie, the fourth kind, on Friday. It was suppose to be a true story about aliens, but I think it's bogus. It was really creepy tho. I say if God can make us, what's to say he hasn't made others. If so, I want the aliens to be like ALF, he was so cute.

I often wondered that too. If He made our world, why couldn't He have made others? Anyway, I loved alf! he was adorable. And, IF there are UFO's out there, I do hope they're not like the lizard people in the V remake on tv now.

[Spirit_777]

Job 2:
Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD.

2 And the LORD said unto Satan, From whence comest thou? And Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

Satan the prince of this earth and the father of all who refuse Jesus .. He goes up and down and to and from in the earth .

[Spirit_777]

the HooDooGuru wrote:

<quoted text>Spirit, tell me more about those ufo's you have seen. Did you see them up close? How do you know they were ufo's? I think i saw yoda once one night off at a distance but i'm not for sure. "the guru"

I was young about 12 or 13 , a group of friends and my sister and myself were sitting on the porch at about 10 pm . I think it was in July or August .. well i got up off the porch and walked to the alleyway .. don't know why ?? I looked in the direction which would have been the Detroit River area , Ambassador bridge . I could not see the river but it was in that area ... Well there was a ball of fire coming quickly , rolling ball of fire . I was scared as i thought it was an airplane on fire . I began hollering for the others to come and for my mother to come . I thought that plane was going to fall on our house as it was coming in my direction . Everyone ran out to stand where i was my mother came out also , by this time it was stopped above us .. what appeared as fire from far off could be seen clearly then . Rotating lights blinking in consession , as the rotaion of the lights slowed , we could see individual windows that circled round and about the object . We could hear a high pitched humming sound but not piercing . Above the object was a single ball of light . we thought it may have been on a tower as we could not see where the light was attached to the object . It stood above us for an undisclosed amount of time . We waved and hollered as we thought it was martains ? We did not see anyone the windows were illuminated with light . Suddenly the objects lights began spining fast around object and it left at a great speed , a quick turn and zoom like nothing i had ever seen before .

[Spirit_777]

Also we didnt talk much about it after that night . Later that night about 12 pm i can remember walking on the walkway across the alley path , i was with someone i have since forgotten .
I rememeber only that i could still hear that high pitched sound that the object had made . My mother was the only adult present and she could not explane it , she said it must be one of those UFO's people claim they see . She did call the news about it and they reported others had called in same thing . It certainly wasnt a blimp and that is the only thing we knew of that could stand still for so long.
I have seen other objects since .

[Well]

Spirit_777 wrote:

<quoted text>
Yes i have and there is alot of deception being brought to those who witness them.
What Ezekiel seen was not the same as UFO's .. God is Holy and He cannot stand before any man , no man could see his face and live.
God appeared to Ezekiel covered in a craft like vehicle.
There is a specific discription given to us by Ezekiel about Gods appearance and no man has seen God come in this like fashion again . We are not told that God would appear again until His second coming .satan is an agel of light ...he is the deceiver of all mankind . He is power and ruler of this earth , going to and fro and up and down in the earth. The prince of the power of the air ( earths atmosphere. We are warned of satans decptions , and how satan will appear in the clouds above the earth and be God to man.
Now UFO's are of another origin , they are fallen angels

Well I now have a question for you. When we get to Heaven, do you think we'll be able to see God I mean really see him, sit down and have a discussion with him?? Being Jesus and God are two totally seperate ppl and I know I will be able to see Jesus and talk with
him. But what about God??

[Well]

Spirit_777 wrote:

<quoted text>
Yes i have and there is alot of deception being brought to those who witness them.
What Ezekiel seen was not the same as UFO's .. God is Holy and He cannot stand before any man , no man could see his face and live.
God appeared to Ezekiel covered in a craft like vehicle.
There is a specific discription given to us by Ezekiel about Gods appearance and no man has seen God come in this like fashion again . We are not told that God would appear again until His second coming .

satan is an agel of light ...he is the deceiver of all mankind . He is power and ruler of this earth , going to and fro and up and down in the earth. The prince of the power of the air ( earths atmosphere. We are warned of satans decptions , and how satan will appear in the clouds above the earth and be God to man.
Now UFO's are of another origin , they are fallen angels

Fallen Angels?? Seriously?? Why would they want to fall when they are in the greatest place of all? What makes them fall?? I have a hard time with this one pls. explain.

[Curiously Asking]

Besides the falling of Lucifer, do you have any scripture relating to other fallen angels??