Hmmm

Somerset, KY

#42 Jan 25, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
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Another idiotic based post because I can post on a 1000 different media sources, I can use a lap top, a desk top, a cell phone, write a letter, make a poster, print a pamphlet and do just fine and by the looks of it you would still not have the mental ability to understand the Point...
There have been Many people that due to Free Speech have been killed... Free Speech has cause many time more deaths than so called assault rifle with HiCap Mags...(is 2011 only around 50 people were killed by such weapons) but during that same time 1,692 people were killed with knives and over 400 killed with Hands and Feed and odds are that a lot of those killings were because someone exercised their freedom of Speech...
But to the Point I made Before... I'll go slow you you since it's obvious you have a comprehension problem.
The 1st Amendment protects your freedom of speech... It does so not because you say nice things... It does so to allow you to say things that piss people off... When the 1st was written the Technology to exercise that right was very, very basic... Pen, stand on the corner and yell, print a pamphlet on a hand cranked press.... The 1st Did not say what technology to come mattered... It was the Ability to exercise that Right that was protected...
The 2nd Amendment protects your freedom to Bare Arms and have the arms to be Well Regulated in their usage... It does so not because you use it for any particular purpose... It does so to allow you to use it as You see fit... When the 2nd was written the Technology to exercise that right was very, very basic... Flintlock Musket, smooth bore cannon, Flintlock pistol.... The 2nd Did not say what technology to come mattered... It was the Ability to exercise that Right that was protected...
And Yes Every Protected Right we have has Responsibility that the Individual be held for account when they exercise those rights... But to Take away a Right so it cannot be exercised and take responsibility for requires a Constitutional Amendment and Ratification by 3/4 of the states...
No saying you will understand as from your post you haven't shown that rational thought and education into our founding documents is your forte but I tried to use small words just for you....
You're a damn fool. Why are you not allowed to own a tank, how about a hand grenade? Whats the difference? If I should be held "accountable" if a bad guy breaks in on someone wearing armor and the home owner can't defend themselves, then you should be held accountable for a bad guy killing a cop because he used armor piercing bullets! I think the latter happens more often.. You people are nuts. The big bad government is coming for you, watch out. Better get your foil hats on. LOL
Hmmm

Somerset, KY

#43 Jan 25, 2013
sayin wrote:
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You have drank the kool aid. They are not trying to stop people from being killed they are trying to take your freedom a little at a time but you are to blind to see it. More innocent people were killed by bicycles than by so called assault rifles in the US. Why don't you do some research.
No, its you that has drank the kool aid. How many people killed 20 children with a bicyles? It's not about how people killed themselves, its how quickly and effitivly someone can kill others!
sayin

East Bernstadt, KY

#44 Jan 25, 2013
you don't know much about bullets that's for sure. One of the favorite deer hunting rifles will penetrate any law enforcement vest. Never mind it way to late for you. You would have been just like one of the millions who believed everything their German Government said while they were led to their deaths.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

East Bernstadt, KY

#46 Jan 25, 2013
Justified wrote:
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Quantummist, we can't make people like that understand what is happening in this world. The forest is burning down behind them while they spend their time cleaning the weeds away from the poor little wilting sapling thats about to be engulfed by flames. And they are going to get burned too. Like a lamb to the slaughter.
You know the sad part is that T.S.T.H.S.T.A. disorder seems to be at epidemic levels these days... Whether it be Guns, Drugs, Man Caused Global Warming, Cash for Clunkers, Dependent Populations and so many other issues it seems we have a large portion of the population that have lost the ability of rational thought... So many never consider the unintended consequences of their actions and just react to situations without thinking at all about the results....

I talked to a guy the other day that was complaining and just Pissed Off because he went to buy a Used Car and the prices were so much higher than a couple of years ago he could not afford a decent one... Yet a couple of years ago the same guy and me butted heads because he was telling me that the Cash for Clunkers programs was Great because it put money in the economy and got all those gas guzzling cars that were killing the planet off the roads....
sayin

East Bernstadt, KY

#47 Jan 25, 2013
Hmmm wrote:
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No one is taking your guns away. They are trying to stop innocent people from being killed. If that means people can't buy assault rifles and armour piercing bullets so be it.
How do you arrive at the conclusion that a gun ban won't take away guns?
Hmmm

Somerset, KY

#48 Jan 25, 2013
sayin wrote:
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How do you arrive at the conclusion that a gun ban won't take away guns?
Are you serious? You people act like "the gubment" is going to go house to house and take every firearm everyone owns! They are not even taking away the assault rifles already owned, you will just not be able to buy anymore, with the hopes that the supply already out there will eventually dry up. This has already been done once but it expired in 2004.
Justified

Barbourville, KY

#49 Jan 25, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
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You know the sad part is that T.S.T.H.S.T.A. disorder seems to be at epidemic levels these days... Whether it be Guns, Drugs, Man Caused Global Warming, Cash for Clunkers, Dependent Populations and so many other issues it seems we have a large portion of the population that have lost the ability of rational thought... So many never consider the unintended consequences of their actions and just react to situations without thinking at all about the results....
I talked to a guy the other day that was complaining and just Pissed Off because he went to buy a Used Car and the prices were so much higher than a couple of years ago he could not afford a decent one... Yet a couple of years ago the same guy and me butted heads because he was telling me that the Cash for Clunkers programs was Great because it put money in the economy and got all those gas guzzling cars that were killing the planet off the roads....
And they ain't seen nothing yet. Too bad by the time they get it they won't be prepared in anyway.

“Somewhere in Time”

Since: Dec 09

Cannon, KY

#50 Jan 25, 2013
They should never amend the Constitution, under any circumstances. It will only end up causing Martial Law in America, I fear.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

East Bernstadt, KY

#51 Jan 25, 2013
Hmmm wrote:
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Are you serious? You people act like "the gubment" is going to go house to house and take every firearm everyone owns! They are not even taking away the assault rifles already owned, you will just not be able to buy anymore, with the hopes that the supply already out there will eventually dry up. This has already been done once but it expired in 2004.
Then you need to read up on the several proposals being put forth.. In the Grand Father clause it Requires that anyone that owns a rifle that fits the proposed ban take the firearm to the controlling authority and have it Registered with serial numbers and your personal information and where the firearm will be kept.. And each time you move you would be required to notify the authority of such move.. If you do not do so you would be charged with felony if found in possession of it had not jumped through all the hoops......

As as we saw in Katrina... the Government went to all Registered Gun owners and Confiscated firearms because they had record of which house to hit...

Now it does not Grand Father HiCap Mags.. under several proposals Hi Cap Mags would be a Felony Possession Charge... And Note that such a Felony possession means you are Banned for Life from owning or possessing any firearms of any kind.... Which is what I think the whole things about in the first place... To cause Law Abiding people to commit a felony in order to side step the second amendment by banning them from owning or possessing a firearm for life...

Justified

Barbourville, KY

#52 Jan 26, 2013


This is a 30min Q&A with Biden on PBS on reducing gun violence in America.

You can also find this by going to www.whitehouse.gov and look under top news.
Justified

Barbourville, KY

#53 Jan 26, 2013
Justified wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =BpMbbpoWtWEXX
This is a 30min Q&A with Biden on PBS on reducing gun violence in America.
You can also find this by going to www.whitehouse.gov and look under top news.
You can also download the full text of the presedent's plan to reduce gun violence form the whitehouse.gov site.
Scraw Claw

Winnebago, IL

#54 Jan 26, 2013
gunless wrote:
<quoted text> By god he's going to stop these killings and i'm glad!! he's taking all the guns and all the ammo accept for hunting guns and maybe we won't have 11,000 gun deaths a year.. all you barrel suckers suck it up and take it ! take and turn all your guns into the sheriffs office emmediately !! and don't think you can fight back with your little plinkers !! obama has weapons of mass destruction and you'all know he wouldn't hesitate to use them to protect the american people.. now tomorrow is tuesday so lets get em all over to john ok ? thanks
What an Idiot you are, Do you not Realize that Obamas children are Gaurded by Guns ! Plinkers, Listen, Kentuckians don't own Plinkers!!! Do we not have the same right to protect our children & Homes by Guns? Yes we do, Listen Pasny, you may not have a Gun! Many of us own several Guns & we will protect our Children & our Homes. Obama isn't protecting America, he is setting us All up for Mass Destruction, including you Idiot! Good luck Hiding yourself & your Family when this all takes Place! You'll be the first ones going down. The rest of us will be prepared... So what ever Dream world you live in, it's not here in Ky...Get a Gun & Shut the Heck up!!! All of the Gun Deaths that have taken Place because of some Freak on Medication that had access to a Gun!!! No one has been killed in Ky by Someone who owned a Dang Gun! You better go back & do your Research, you are missinformed. Or you're Dang Stupid!
abc

London, KY

#55 Jan 28, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
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You know the sad part is that T.S.T.H.S.T.A. disorder seems to be at epidemic levels these days... Whether it be Guns, Drugs, Man Caused Global Warming, Cash for Clunkers, Dependent Populations and so many other issues it seems we have a large portion of the population that have lost the ability of rational thought... So many never consider the unintended consequences of their actions and just react to situations without thinking at all about the results....
I talked to a guy the other day that was complaining and just Pissed Off because he went to buy a Used Car and the prices were so much higher than a couple of years ago he could not afford a decent one... Yet a couple of years ago the same guy and me butted heads because he was telling me that the Cash for Clunkers programs was Great because it put money in the economy and got all those gas guzzling cars that were killing the planet off the roads....
Quantummist I have not read no news about it or anything I have seen this happen for the past 50 plus years, when I was young I remember every winter large snows at least a foot deep stay on the ground for a week and a half , and then even another snow come on top of it and freeze , the show would be on cars so thick you could not see them and every drive way in barbourville would be blocked and my older brothers would go to town and clean snow off drive ways here in barbourville the winters started to dissapear and the snows around 1980, I remember several large snows each winter but no more its almost the last day of January and really we have not had a deep snow this year we have not had one is 25 years once in march in the 80, a three foot snow came yes something is happening I dont need cnn or the news to tell me I have seen it my self the earth is warming up at least in seky im not a big green machine person but this is indeed a fact maybe it just does this every 500 years warms up then gets cold again but something has happend in my life time I know I have been a eye witness to it...your older then I am not much you have traveld the nation I have been not i have been in one place to see this happen where has the big winter snows gone to? we dont have them anymore why has this happend?
abc

London, KY

#56 Jan 28, 2013
i like not having the big snows but you cant distroy water it's here is some ways if the polar caps is melting the oceans will rise and it will affect the earth it has to and what has man done to a earth still not shaken for millions of years by synthetic motions and man made pressures a pebble can send rippels across a very large lake and then reactions begin, us look at the pressure man has put on the earth and the elements he lives in
How many bomb test was done on the surface of this planet? sending shock waves in to the earth it could take 1000 years for the earth to respond we count minutes the earth counts in hundreds of years in its reactions...or even longer...we may have already shit up to much on the surface of the earth.
abc

London, KY

#57 Jan 28, 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch... Interesting melody now how long do we waite until the earth responds? 1000 years? 10,000? or is it already responding?

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

East Bernstadt, KY

#58 Jan 28, 2013
abc wrote:
<quoted text>Quantummist I have not read no news about it or anything I have seen this happen for the past 50 plus years, when I was young I remember every winter large snows at least a foot deep stay on the ground for a week and a half , and then even another snow come on top of it and freeze , the show would be on cars so thick you could not see them and every drive way in barbourville would be blocked and my older brothers would go to town and clean snow off drive ways here in barbourville the winters started to dissapear and the snows around 1980, I remember several large snows each winter but no more its almost the last day of January and really we have not had a deep snow this year we have not had one is 25 years once in march in the 80, a three foot snow came yes something is happening I dont need cnn or the news to tell me I have seen it my self the earth is warming up at least in seky im not a big green machine person but this is indeed a fact maybe it just does this every 500 years warms up then gets cold again but something has happend in my life time I know I have been a eye witness to it...your older then I am not much you have traveld the nation I have been not i have been in one place to see this happen where has the big winter snows gone to? we dont have them anymore why has this happend?
Yep Temperatures has On Average risen over the last 20 years... And there it not a question of the temp's rising. They have been rising at the same rate for 7000 years. About 30,000 years ago the temp went up real fast and did so until about 7000 years ago and then it slowed down the the rate it is today. There are short period rises and short period drops every 20 to 40 years. with longer spikes every few hundred years. Here's a good little chart of Climate change over the last 100,000 years. http://www.wunderground.com/education/GISPIIt...

But you will here about the so called Hockey Stick graphs that seem to show a Drastic Spike over the last 30 years and that is what most of those that think man has something to do with it point to.. But what they don't tell you is that those data set are Flawed and the guy that produced the Hockey Stick Graphs cheated . When he published his finding they were accepted without question. His published Paper was what started the Global Warming scare . After it was shown to be Dead Wrong is when the Man Made Global Warming folks changed it to Man Made Climate Change because there was No Evidence for a big warming trend. Here's a really good article of the Fraud of that Hockey Stick graph. http://a-sceptical-mind.com/the-rise-and-fall...

But the Big thing that Kills even Man Made Climate Change is the very ice core samples used by the Climate Change folks... They say look, look at the ice cores . In the past when temps were high the CO2 level was high. and yes that is true. What they don't tell you is which came first. If CO2 causes it to get warmer and CO2 rises first then sometime later the temps rise then man spewing out more CO2 could cause the temps to rise. That is their Main and really Only argument for Man Made Climate Change.

Problem. Those Ice Core Samples and Known Science says that CO2 LAGS temp rise from 30 to 80 years. Which should be the nail in the coffin of Man Caused Global Climate Change. The Process is that as it warms up the oceans release CO2, as it warms organic stuff decays faster, as it warms carbonaceous rock out gasses faster so it makes sense that when it gets warm later the CO2 gets higher. But Believers still Believe.

Now you will hear how there is Consensus. And the defenders (That get paid for researching the subject) will say that all the Peer Reviewed Papers agree in Man Caused Climate Change. And that there are almost no Peer reviewed papers that show it's not man made. But those peer reviewed papers are reviewed by those that claim it is mans fault. Then refuse to publish any paper that don't agree

WTF

Sheridan, AR

#59 Jan 29, 2013
The Specialist wrote:
They should never amend the Constitution, under any circumstances. It will only end up causing Martial Law in America, I fear.
You dummy. Do you realize there would be no free speech and no right to bear arms if the constitution wasn't amended? Being able to amend the constitution is a must as this country grows..

“Somewhere in Time”

Since: Dec 09

Cannon, KY

#60 Jan 29, 2013
WTF wrote:
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You dummy. Do you realize there would be no free speech and no right to bear arms if the constitution wasn't amended? Being able to amend the constitution is a must as this country grows..
Sorry, you're full of it.
WTF

Sheridan, AR

#61 Jan 29, 2013
The Specialist wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry, you're full of it.
Come on now, you aren't that dumb. The Bill Of Rights are amendments to the constitution. Without those amendments America wouldn't be what it is today. Slavery would still be going on if we couldn't make amendments to the constitution.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#62 Jan 29, 2013
The Specialist wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry, you're full of it.
Sorry dude you need a Constitutional Fundamentals Course..

The whole Bill Of Rights is an Amendment to the Constitution...

Without Amendment Your Rights to not have the government just walk into your house and have troops live there with you would not exist... You would Have No Protected Rights what so ever... You can have all kinds of Rights... But unless they are spelled out by addition to the Constitution through Amendment and Ratification they mean almost nothing....

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