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Minnie Baird

United States

#1 Dec 22, 2012
It's a shame a man calls himself a preacher and swears to lies to a court. You know Rev. Wayne Holder it is a sin to lie you've preached it a thousand times now haven't you? When you told that our daughter abandoned her son little Chad you lied and you know you did. She has called and called begging you to let her hear her son's voice and he hers. You told her and me that there was a no contact order on us and you couldn't allow that well we both as well as you and your wife Agnes know that was a lie because we checked on it that is why we kept calling you. You of course, didn't answer the phone and when you did kept up the lie. Now you want to say she abandoned her son when you know she didn't. She has begged you more times than I care to think about to see or talk to her son and you wouldn't allow it. Shame on you and your wife for what you are doing to our daughter. One day the both of you will have to face God and it won't be good for what you both are doing is wrong and you know it. It is never good with God when a christian lies and especially one that is in the pulpit every week telling others how they should live. You need to learn how to live a Christian life yourself before you go trying to tell others how to live. You are truly a stink in the nostrils of God. Remember quoting that scripture to the congregation? I can't believe your wife is going along with this or does she not know that Stephanie has been calling begging to hear her son's voice and for him to hear hers? Either way you are a shame to the Christian community.
a shame

Somerset, KY

#2 Dec 23, 2012
Minnie Baird wrote:
It's a shame a man calls himself a preacher and swears to lies to a court. You know Rev. Wayne Holder it is a sin to lie you've preached it a thousand times now haven't you? When you told that our daughter abandoned her son little Chad you lied and you know you did. She has called and called begging you to let her hear her son's voice and he hers. You told her and me that there was a no contact order on us and you couldn't allow that well we both as well as you and your wife Agnes know that was a lie because we checked on it that is why we kept calling you. You of course, didn't answer the phone and when you did kept up the lie. Now you want to say she abandoned her son when you know she didn't. She has begged you more times than I care to think about to see or talk to her son and you wouldn't allow it. Shame on you and your wife for what you are doing to our daughter. One day the both of you will have to face God and it won't be good for what you both are doing is wrong and you know it. It is never good with God when a christian lies and especially one that is in the pulpit every week telling others how they should live. You need to learn how to live a Christian life yourself before you go trying to tell others how to live. You are truly a stink in the nostrils of God. Remember quoting that scripture to the congregation? I can't believe your wife is going along with this or does she not know that Stephanie has been calling begging to hear her son's voice and for him to hear hers? Either way you are a shame to the Christian community.
Something dosent add up here, a court takes a child from a parent and gives custody to a preacher and his wife, then the grandparent blames the preacher and his wife fo what the court did?

Sounds like minnie baird did not teach their daughter anything , daughter whored around got knocked up, had a baby, didnt take care of it and a court took it. Now minnie wants to blame the court, a preacher and his wife for minnies failure to raise their own child with any values. The babys mother is what you taught her minnie, if you want to blame someone ---blame yourself for whatever your daughter became and the position she put herself and your grandchild in,,,not the preacher and his wife, dont destroy another life, as you did your daughters.
biblical

East Bernstadt, KY

#3 Dec 23, 2012
Preachers should not flirt or cheat on their wives. They shall not lust. Thy shall not tell lies to hurt others. Thy shall not stand in their booths and watch saggy butt cut up card board thy shall not carry on bad conversations and tell how good a woman looks that day or how good she smells that day.
local

Somerset, KY

#4 Dec 23, 2012
biblical wrote:
Preachers should not flirt or cheat on their wives. They shall not lust. Thy shall not tell lies to hurt others. Thy shall not stand in their booths and watch saggy butt cut up card board thy shall not carry on bad conversations and tell how good a woman looks that day or how good she smells that day.
U been reading too many "Playboy" and "Hustler" articles. That garbage you just presented did'nt come from no Bible.... LOL

Since: Dec 10

Manchester, KY

#5 Dec 23, 2012
biblical wrote:
Preachers should not flirt or cheat on their wives. They shall not lust. Thy shall not tell lies to hurt others. Thy shall not stand in their booths and watch saggy butt cut up card board thy shall not carry on bad conversations and tell how good a woman looks that day or how good she smells that day.
This rule is suppose to apply to all Christian's, not just Preacher's.
hoot

Madisonville, KY

#6 Dec 23, 2012
Try Preacher ledford Hamilton that's one sorry s.o.b. that every set foot in a church
Jumper Cable

Nancy, KY

#7 Dec 26, 2012
The Bible says Judge No Man, lest you be Judged!!! It also says with what measure you meet, it shall be Met back to you !!! People you need to get this right, or you will not be entering the Gates of Heaven! Let God be the Judge & you pray for these people. If they have done wrong or they are doing wrong. Be rest assured that Sin is only good for a season.....Vengence is mine thus saeth the Lord !!!
Jumper Cable

Nancy, KY

#8 Dec 26, 2012
Sayeth the Lord !!!!

Since: Dec 10

Somerset, KY

#9 Dec 26, 2012
Jumper Cable wrote:
The Bible says Judge No Man, lest you be Judged!!! It also says with what measure you meet, it shall be Met back to you !!! People you need to get this right, or you will not be entering the Gates of Heaven! Let God be the Judge & you pray for these people. If they have done wrong or they are doing wrong. Be rest assured that Sin is only good for a season.....Vengence is mine thus saeth the Lord !!!
You tells others not to judge, yet you do it yourself.
Minnie Baird

United States

#10 Jan 10, 2013
a shame wrote:
<quoted text>
Something dosent add up here, a court takes a child from a parent and gives custody to a preacher and his wife, then the grandparent blames the preacher and his wife fo what the court did?
Sounds like minnie baird did not teach their daughter anything , daughter whored around got knocked up, had a baby, didnt take care of it and a court took it. Now minnie wants to blame the court, a preacher and his wife for minnies failure to raise their own child with any values. The babys mother is what you taught her minnie, if you want to blame someone ---blame yourself for whatever your daughter became and the position she put herself and your grandchild in,,,not the preacher and his wife, dont destroy another life, as you did your daughters.
No she was raised with good values as a matter of fact she was brought up in church. What your child does once it is grown doesn't necessarily reflect how they were raised. She isn't a whore nor was her child born out of wedlock. You read a lot into the post. She is married she just made a mistake and her dad the preacher took advantage of it. My daughter is no saint nor is her husband and in no way condone what she has done. I just think it is wrong that now that she is trying to do what is right and what the court has asked her to do her dad and his wife is trying to take her child instead of doing what they said they would do and give the child back when she had completed what the court had asked of her. They gave him custody in July and gave her one year to do the things they asked her to do and then in December her dad and his wife filed for adoption. Now I only have an Associate's degree but the way I was taught math that is not a year. The court also told her she could see her child and her dad went right that day and filed for a no contact order going against what the judge had told them. He is trying to trigger an outburst that will get the child removed for good so that he can draw a check on him since he gets disability. He has tried several different ways to get a disability check for the child and was told there was nothing wrong with him so adoption is the only way he can get that check. In the beginning he straight up told our daughter he didn't even want the child but now he has decided he wants to raise him as his when he didn't even raise his own children. I did it all by myself since my son was 10 & my daughter was 7. Why take your grandchild when you didn't even want your own child? There's more to the story than I have told but in the end it's him that will pay for how he is behaving so I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the ride. For once I won't have to take it with him I just feel bad for his current wife because he is for sure a wolf in sheep's clothing.
Minnie Baird

United States

#11 Jan 10, 2013
For all of those that think I may be judging I'm not but are Christians not suppose to live in a way that would make a sinner want to be a Christian not say well they are doing the same thing that I am so if they are going to Heaven I guess I am too? I mean this man wouldn't even feed his son when he hadn't ate in 3 days,he told him he didn't even have scraps that he could have. His son was out of work & had to call me to come from TN to bring him food & money so he wouldn't be hungry now can you find me a Bible verse that says this is Christian? Yes I too am a Bible thumper from Ky. & not one time did I see anything that says any of the things he has done in the last year is Christian. Psalm 146:8 says,"The Lord opens the eyes of the blind; the Lord raises those who are bowed down; The Lord loves the righteous." My daughter may be bowed down now but the Lord will bring her up because Psalm 145:9 says The Lord is good to all, and his tender mercies are over all his works." I believe this with all my heart. I know his mercies is on my daughter because he has brought her through so much already starting at birth when she was born dead & gasped real big and started breathing on her own. I know God will do good things for her & I refuse to let anyone convince me otherwise. As I said before she hasn't been a saint but none of us have even a shame that wants to call her out of her name which I know God doesn't approve of but you know what God loves you too & just as he will provide for my daughter he will for you and your foul mouth also. Also a shame my daughter was taking care of her children and was a good mom as I said you read a lot into what I said. She and her husband have separated & are doing better apart than together so I know God will make a way for her to have her children back again even though the Devil is working hard through her dad to stop it. Just remember a shame no man is without sin John 8:7 says,"He who is without sin among you,let him throw a stone at her first." A Shame I don't think you are the one to throw the first stone now are you? No you are not that is unless you are claiming to be Jesus after all, he is the only one to walk the earth without sin. Right?
So You Know

Windsor, WI

#12 Jan 12, 2013
Nimbletwig wrote:
<quoted text>You tells others not to judge, yet you do it yourself.
No,

Nimbletwig, I didn't say "I "Judge... I said that God will Judge! Are you one of those people who doesn't read that Facts or Read the Facts.... I don't Judge, God Does....!!! You need to stop with your Immature Input!!! I didn't Judge No man, I said Let God JUDGE!!!
Show Time

Windsor, WI

#13 Jan 12, 2013
So you know, I agree with you... God will Judge all of us... Nimbletwig, You need to keep your mouth Shut & keep your comments away from the Key Board! That wasn't what "So You Know" was Saying!
You are Haughty & full of your self. God Almighty will Judge all of us one day. For what we have said & done. You & I both will have to face that! God said , all Knees will Bow & all Tounges will Confess.. That means you ALSO!!!

Wether you believe it or not! God is God & his word has not changed! Even if we have, Gods word is still the same! We all will Bow & we all will be held accountable for what we have done on this Earth! Believe or not, that's your Choice! I believe in God & Eternity...Because if Heaven isn't waiting on me... Then all my Hope is Lost...I will be a person much like you... When my Life is Finished, and my last Breath is taken. Then my Life is over! I won't accept that!!! I Pray that Heaven is waiting for me & I will spend the rest of my Eternity with My Savior & My Heavenly Father!!!! I hope you wake up, before it's too late for you! I pray that your Soul Isn't Lost! God Help You or you will be with out Hope Or Eternity !!!!
Show Time

Windsor, WI

#14 Jan 12, 2013
Minnie Baird wrote:
For all of those that think I may be judging I'm not but are Christians not suppose to live in a way that would make a sinner want to be a Christian not say well they are doing the same thing that I am so if they are going to Heaven I guess I am too? I mean this man wouldn't even feed his son when he hadn't ate in 3 days,he told him he didn't even have scraps that he could have. His son was out of work & had to call me to come from TN to bring him food & money so he wouldn't be hungry now can you find me a Bible verse that says this is Christian? Yes I too am a Bible thumper from Ky. & not one time did I see anything that says any of the things he has done in the last year is Christian. Psalm 146:8 says,"The Lord opens the eyes of the blind; the Lord raises those who are bowed down; The Lord loves the righteous." My daughter may be bowed down now but the Lord will bring her up because Psalm 145:9 says The Lord is good to all, and his tender mercies are over all his works." I believe this with all my heart. I know his mercies is on my daughter because he has brought her through so much already starting at birth when she was born dead & gasped real big and started breathing on her own. I know God will do good things for her & I refuse to let anyone convince me otherwise. As I said before she hasn't been a saint but none of us have even a shame that wants to call her out of her name which I know God doesn't approve of but you know what God loves you too & just as he will provide for my daughter he will for you and your foul mouth also. Also a shame my daughter was taking care of her children and was a good mom as I said you read a lot into what I said. She and her husband have separated & are doing better apart than together so I know God will make a way for her to have her children back again even though the Devil is working hard through her dad to stop it. Just remember a shame no man is without sin John 8:7 says,"He who is without sin among you,let him throw a stone at her first." A Shame I don't think you are the one to throw the first stone now are you? No you are not that is unless you are claiming to be Jesus after all, he is the only one to walk the earth without sin. Right?
Minnie, I read your Story, God Bless you with your Testimony! Yes, God is real & God Is GOD!!! I pray Blessings & Favor over you Also Over your Daughter & her Children. Thank you for your Input on a God that can turn things around to show his Glory! People seem to forget about Gods Blessings when they go through Hard times & Difficult times. People forget that Life Lessons are learned when you go through tough times! Thank you for saying what you & your Daughter have Gone through! God Is GOD & he is there with us & will be with us through all of over Trials & Heart Aches... God is Good that way, because He Loves Us, so does Jesus....Jesus was with out Sin & each of as Christians know that we are Nothing without Him!!! I have a Savior & you have the same Savior, who Loves us, forgives us & is always there for us, Because he Loves us! So does our Heavenly Father! Godf Bless you & may Blessings & Favor follow you all the Days of your Life.. God Bless!!!
aaa

Barbourville, KY

#15 Jan 12, 2013
Show Time wrote:
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Minnie, I read your Story, God Bless you with your Testimony! Yes, God is real & God Is GOD!!! I pray Blessings & Favor over you Also Over your Daughter & her Children. Thank you for your Input on a God that can turn things around to show his Glory! People seem to forget about Gods Blessings when they go through Hard times & Difficult times. People forget that Life Lessons are learned when you go through tough times! Thank you for saying what you & your Daughter have Gone through! God Is GOD & he is there with us & will be with us through all of over Trials & Heart Aches... God is Good that way, because He Loves Us, so does Jesus....Jesus was with out Sin & each of as Christians know that we are Nothing without Him!!! I have a Savior & you have the same Savior, who Loves us, forgives us & is always there for us, Because he Loves us! So does our Heavenly Father! Godf Bless you & may Blessings & Favor follow you all the Days of your Life.. God Bless!!!
boy that's a good one!!!! god is god. ha!ha!ha!ha!ha! god was with them little kids in newtown ct. when that bastard shot all of them !! god was god when he forsaked his only son there on the cross. jesus said father why have you forsakened me ? god is god NOT.. There is no god no heaven no hell and no hope for people that believe this biggest lie on earth !! People wake up !!
get it right

Williamsburg, KY

#16 Jan 13, 2013
aaa wrote:
<quoted text> boy that's a good one!!!! god is god. ha!ha!ha!ha!ha! god was with them little kids in newtown ct. when that bastard shot all of them !! god was god when he forsaked his only son there on the cross. jesus said father why have you forsakened me ? god is god NOT.. There is no god no heaven no hell and no hope for people that believe this biggest lie on earth !! People wake up !!
if you are going to try an convince people that there is no GOD,then you should atleast study the bible enough to know what your talking about.lol.when JESUS was on the cross an said FATHER WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKENED ME,he was not asking GOD a question,he was quoteing scripture from the book of PSALMS.he was actually teaching while he was hanging from the cross.
Minnie Baird

United States

#17 Jul 8, 2013
Thank you Show Time. I so needed to hear that. I know this will work out but I just wish it wasn't taking so long. It's been a year and a half now and I just wish we had this over with and the babies was back home. No one could ever know how much it hurts to have a child in your home for several years and out of the blue have it taken from you because you didn't have the common sense get a custody order. I so wish the court system was different but I know in the end the truth about everything will come out and both of those precious babies are going to resent them for what they are doing and have done. When they realize that they have been lied to & deceived for so long. Especially when one of them has claimed to be a preacher & lying straight face to them. I believe with all my heart that one day the oldest one will remember the truth & know that he was loved and cared for more than anything else in this world. That little boy was my whole life & because his grandfather couldn't take his own children from me he decided to hurt me by taking the next best thing which was our grandsons. The one that he never called to talk to or even gave a birthday present in all of his precious 6 yrs. He is now 7 and will be 8 in Sept. and its the preacher that gets to be there with him instead of me and that's not fair by any means but as I said the truth will come out & those little boys are going to have some really hard feeling toward him & many more for keeping them from us & being lied to. The preacher is now calling himself daddy to the youngest after he didn't raise his own children. It's just not right.
gator

Science Hill, KY

#18 Jul 10, 2013
I made a truck payment
gator

United States

#19 Jul 10, 2013
Sorry made 2 truck payments
repo man

London, KY

#20 Jul 14, 2013
gator wrote:
Sorry made 2 truck payments
i am afther you your 6 months behind on your truck payment
ill get it and ill have another gator head mounted on my wall

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