Stivers Center fixes

Since: Jul 14

Winchester, KY

#21 Jul 23, 2014
So my original ideas were to get new equipment, increase space add a basketball court, possibly a community kitchen to encourage healthy eating.

I see we are more interested in blaming the Mayor, the city counsel, the KCEOC, the swim teams and others. Who cares who's fault it is, we as a community should be able to suck it up and not play the blame game.

Lets say the Center gets additional money to expand and grow, what do you think would attract more members and would be something that would get used. Again you can see what I said when I started this thread. Remember this has to be something health and wellness related.
Business decision

Frankfort, KY

#22 Jul 23, 2014
Barbourville can not fiscally operate this pool - can't expect the government to subsidize this thing . Not when the bare costs of operating this much .

Since: Jul 14

Winchester, KY

#23 Jul 23, 2014
I know things we read in the paper and what others say should be taken with a grain of salt. With that being said the paper did report the center needed 300 more members to be at a break even point. So there may be a way to at least get to the point where it can sustain their bills but it will never get in the Black by much.

So What are ways the center could add 300 additional memberships to what they have now.
truth is

Keavy, KY

#24 Jul 23, 2014
They will not get 300 more memberships, they will have to offer another service.

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#25 Jul 23, 2014
It will take a private investor to fix the problem..The city should find a private investor to sell it to..Any thing the government touches eventually breaks..It doesn't matter if it's the city or federal or state..It breaks..Or like gator said put a five cent tax on the Obama phones..
City Slicker

Keavy, KY

#26 Jul 23, 2014
Look at the data wrote:
No saying the pool can not be be maintained due to no income stream - not by any municipality including barbourville - not saying this to hurt anyone - ask any person with any expertise in budgeting, economics , accounting, or fiscal management if a community with an average income level , per capita income, a population size , can possibly sustain an Olympic sized pool , heating, maintaining, insuring, staffing- is not feasible ... This is why it is in jeopardy .
Tax Tax Tax !! That's one way to keep the utilities paid at least ! Stick a tax on your car reg. once a year ! I see where we pay 10.50 to knox co. schools and 8.00 for city school ! And let Mrs. Dole donate her time to run it since Her and Paul were the one's that advocated for it to be here so bad ! I think it's been poor management and preparation on Paul Dole's part ! If this is an indication of how he runs KCEOC with the help of Tom Odell we might need to look farther and closer at his Dealings at KCEOC !!

Since: Jul 14

Barbourville, KY

#27 Jul 24, 2014
Ok so lets go back to my original post. Increase strength and cardio space (thinking Baptist or Gold's gym size), basketball court, possibly a community kitchen to help people cook healthy.

Assuming a private investor were to come along and take over what would you like to see in a place like that.

To me if a private investor were to come along a wellness guarantee it off of the table. I would add what I said above but would also include a top of the line tanning studio and combine membership packages. I would also make sure the tanning and all strength and cardio would be 24hrs a day key card access. I would also add a steam bath and sauna to the shower areas.
Stupid ideas

Keavy, KY

#28 Jul 24, 2014
smokejumper wrote:
Ok so lets go back to my original post. Increase strength and cardio space (thinking Baptist or Gold's gym size), basketball court, possibly a community kitchen to help people cook healthy.
Assuming a private investor were to come along and take over what would you like to see in a place like that.
To me if a private investor were to come along a wellness guarantee it off of the table. I would add what I said above but would also include a top of the line tanning studio and combine membership packages. I would also make sure the tanning and all strength and cardio would be 24hrs a day key card access. I would also add a steam bath and sauna to the shower areas.
you need to go back and read old news papers this center is build with some kind of fed money no private person can just come in and buy or run it and if they can not pay the bills now how do you think they could get more money

Since: Jul 14

Barbourville, KY

#29 Jul 24, 2014
yes the center was built with a grant, but if they can't pay the bills it will close. I am not sure if they will get more grant federal money. But I doubt if a private investor came along and said I will pay all dept make sure bill are paid and invest in the infrastructure the federal people in charge would say no we would rather close it.

So again I ask what would people like to see in a fitness center like this.
changes

Barbourville, KY

#30 Jul 24, 2014
fixthis wrote:
Obviously a better system to remind people to renew memberships would help current members out and possibly keep membership number up.
What I am talking about is what was mentioned last week in the advocate which is, the center needed about 300 additional memberships to be be at the break even point.
300 new memberships don't help if you lose the ones you already have.
seen it before

Barbourville, KY

#31 Jul 24, 2014
We were members till this summer when it became a daycare for the local little hoodlums. They are dropped off and spends the day up there. There are no happy workers and the cardio room is nasty. Let the city get their hands on it and it will be worse. Nothing ever changes in this town. It will never prosper.

Since: Jul 14

Barbourville, KY

#32 Jul 24, 2014
If it were me and God granted me the finical opportunity to purchases this and expand it I would expand the building to include a full strength and cardio areas, basketball court, some type of community kitchen, racquetball courts, walking track, and have a daycare for parents who want to exercise but can't because they don't have solid daycare. I would also include the daycare (while you were at the center) in the membership costs.

Additionally there would be rules and regulations that everybody had to follow.

1. No one under the age of 16 in any strength or fitness area unless supervised by a parent.

2. No one under the age of 12 at any time in the strength or fitness areas.

3. if you do not rerack the weights and put them back in the proper areas you could loose your membership.(Maybe a 3 strike system) same with cleaning sweat and stuff.

you would need rules to keep the things nice. Additionally because this would be a 24hr area video would be reviewed each morning if things were left messy.

you would also have to have strong managers who were not afraid to tell people to follow the rules and enforce them. Union graduates a lot of local students who have Human performance degrees who would love to work locally but don't have the opportunity to do so, but would now.
Payoffs

Keavy, KY

#33 Jul 24, 2014
Someone forgot to grease the wheels of cooperation, wouldn't have taken much .. a "broken" pop machine .. a mowing service .. paint the parking lot lines a few times a year .. leaf removal for non excisting trees .. you know ... unbutton a pocket so the usual suspects can get a hand in to pick it a little.
BIG BUG PODGE

London, KY

#34 Jul 24, 2014
Swim or Drown ! Darren you and Gary ,Go First !
Great

Keavy, KY

#35 Jul 24, 2014
smokejumper wrote:
If it were me and God granted me the finical opportunity to purchases this and expand it I would expand the building to include a full strength and cardio areas, basketball court, some type of community kitchen, racquetball courts, walking track, and have a daycare for parents who want to exercise but can't because they don't have solid daycare. I would also include the daycare (while you were at the center) in the membership costs.
Additionally there would be rules and regulations that everybody had to follow.
1. No one under the age of 16 in any strength or fitness area unless supervised by a parent.
2. No one under the age of 12 at any time in the strength or fitness areas.
3. if you do not rerack the weights and put them back in the proper areas you could loose your membership.(Maybe a 3 strike system) same with cleaning sweat and stuff.
you would need rules to keep the things nice. Additionally because this would be a 24hr area video would be reviewed each morning if things were left messy.
you would also have to have strong managers who were not afraid to tell people to follow the rules and enforce them. Union graduates a lot of local students who have Human performance degrees who would love to work locally but don't have the opportunity to do so, but would now.
looks like you know all how to do it then why don't you just go offer the info and get it fixed
Hobie

Keavy, KY

#36 Jul 24, 2014
Frog wrote:
<quoted text> Thats what the idiots on the city council said about the waterpark but now the employees say the waterpark has lost 90,000 dollars since the council took it over and look at it now everyone has quit going because of all the drama .
I really doubt that kceoc would let the city take it over after the losses they have caused at their own park at the hands of the city council .

Since: Jul 14

Barbourville, KY

#37 Jul 24, 2014
I have spoke to a few people who are directly involved with the center but I am not sure where that got me. We'll see.

Like I said if God would grant me the financial opportunity to be able to take over and expand and take over I would do it in a heart beat.
Payoffs

Keavy, KY

#38 Jul 24, 2014
Hobie wrote:
<quoted text> I really doubt that kceoc would let the city take it over after the losses they have caused at their own park at the hands of the city council .
overwhelmed with stupidity arent you? sad little fat head
aaa

Myrtle Beach, SC

#39 Jul 24, 2014
The pool should have never been built. We could of had a fitness facility much better than baptist in Corbin if the money used for the pool would of been put into fitness equipment, ball courts, and a walking track. The facility could of still had a normal size pool for fitness activities. The upkeep on this type of facility would be a fraction of what it is now. This facility had nothing to do with the people of Knox co. It was built for the sole purpose of giving a couple of swim teams a place to practice and compete. I say fill the thing in and start over.
helping out

Keavy, KY

#40 Jul 24, 2014
Put Thompson in charge of it, he can give free passes for prospective voters. There wont be any money to skim and there will be "broken" pop machines in every corner to pay for the gas. Hmmm.. pop machines in a center designed to improve the health of the community.. novel approach .. maybe a Micky D in one corner too ..wait a minute if people try to get healthy, fast food and pop machines lose money .. hmmmm

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