Mr. Lake is leaving BMS
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Justified

Columbus, OH

#1 May 22, 2012
Mr. Lake has announced that he is leaving BMS for the Board office. Although Mr. Lake can be a kind and caring person, the one issue I have is that he completely backs his teachers, no matter waht. Even when you have proven they did something wrong, he takes no action. No testicles, sad, but true. He needs to make sure that some, not all, but some, are not bullying the students as well, such as in the PE dept., his administration there, and a teacher or two. He will not even deal with his teachers who will not update edline until the end of the grading period, therefore you have no idea what your child's grades are leading up to the report card. He is always apologetic, but that does not fix things either. Too bad, he could have a better legacy than that.
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#4 May 22, 2012
Fed Up Parent wrote:
It is the Cabell County Board of Education policy to use the Peter Principle - to promote to the greatest level of incompetence.

IMHO, I believe Mr. Lake to be a pompous, uncaring, unsympathetic, bigoted, bullying, incompetent, spiteful, vindictive, preferential, egotistical charlatan.
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#5 May 22, 2012
I was a student there and I got expelled for defending myself against someone I had reported to the office 25 times and he did nothing the boy was strangling my friend to hurt him and that day I stood up for me who he had been doing the same to and threatening me and he got detention while I got expelled btw the kid lives across the street from him

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#6 May 22, 2012
His teachers and him also harassed elementary students from cox landing milton but spoiled bville students
atheist

Toronto, Canada

#7 May 22, 2012
He is like all the "Christians" in this town, egotistical and moronic! He is being promoted because he is a kiss ass! He tries to bring his religion into the school system where it has absolutely no place!
mee

Huntington, WV

#8 May 23, 2012
Maybe new principal will let buddy basketball use the gym...
Justified

Columbus, OH

#9 May 23, 2012
Wow, never knew the problems ran so deep. Was only speaking from my personal experience with him and my wife's experience with Kaplan, who is also leaving. Unfortunatley the educational system is so inbred that the next will all be the same. Only a matter of time until a fed up parent cuts loose on them again. IE: kaplan getting beaten to a pulp.
Pos

Ardsley, NY

#10 May 24, 2012
Jerry u are a piece of shitttt thanks for every thing you didn't do for the kids in this community
Eventually

Columbus, OH

#11 May 24, 2012
After reading these comments, I have to agree with some, most and nearly all of them. They instituted the segration of students without asking parents input. They will justify it by, and only if, this years 6th graders score higher on the WEST Test, however, was the same argument they used to stop comparing one year against the next because the scores were getting worse and they claimed it was not fair to do so. Now, Mr. Lake, Mr. Smith and the Board, which way do you want it, or only want it when it shows things in a positive light? If parents have to foot the bill for these things then parents must have a say in the decisions, and not from the lame duck Board of ED. Most on there are yes men and women.
me

Acme, PA

#12 May 24, 2012
Take your kids to another school of you dislike this school so much. There are such things as transfers, private schools and home schooling, but then that would require too much effort and actually some intelligence to opt for any of those. I'd it's so bad there at BMS, then why are there so many kids overcrowding the largest school in the county, many of them living out of district and lying about their addresses. Seems like all people do is bitch and complain, not really doing anything to actually try to improve the situation. Some of the comments are legitimate concerns whereas the way in which the commenters suggest dealing with the issues are simply asinine.
jus10

United States

#13 May 24, 2012
I went to bms back in the day and as a child I didn't care for him, but now that I'm grown I wish I could go back and tell my self to stop bitching and do your work. Mr lake is a great guy and principle one of the best in the state. I wish him luck. God bless
Anonymous

Ardsley, NY

#14 May 25, 2012
Fed Up Parent wrote:
It is the Cabell County Board of Education policy to use the Peter Principle - to promote to the greatest level of incompetence.

IMHO, I believe Mr. Lake to be a pompous, uncaring, unsympathetic, bigoted, bullying, incompetent, spiteful, vindictive, preferential, egotistical charlatan.
Why aren't you on the board? Or better yet the principal then you could have your child on your lap all day an baby him or her. If you had the job for a while maybe you would know a little more about what really goes on.
Fed Up Parent

Elizabeth, WV

#15 May 25, 2012
Red dodge wrote:
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Why aren't you on the board? Or better yet the principal then you could have your child on your lap all day an baby him or her. If you had the job for a while maybe you would know a little more about what really goes on.
Why not STFU if you don't know anything about the person you are talking about. I have an undergraduate and masters degrees. I have taught classes on the secondary, adult continuing education, community and technical college, undergraduate, and graduate levels. I have served on advisory boards, steering committees, process improvement teams, and curricula review boards. I am beyond qualified to make such observations as I have. It isn't surprising the ACLU is bringing action against BMS and CCBOE for the illegal segregation of students.

I am sorry if I don't subscribe to the "good ole boy" philosophies that place incompetent teachers into administrative positions where they are completely inept and under qualified.
cee lo

Hurricane, WV

#16 May 25, 2012
he is a good Christian man, it will work out for him- and he is not under qualified.
me

Ardsley, NY

#17 May 25, 2012
Have you checked the credentials of those you are slamming with your posts? I'm not disagreeing with your observations of certain issues, but again, seems like its just more useless griping. I don't like the good ol' boy system either but people on this site tend to bitch about things they think they know when they really have no clue what actually goes on.
Proud Parent

United States

#18 May 25, 2012
Fed Up Parent wrote:
<quoted text>Why not STFU if you don't know anything about the person you are talking about. I have an undergraduate and masters degrees. I have taught classes on the secondary, adult continuing education, community and technical college, undergraduate, and graduate levels. I have served on advisory boards, steering committees, process improvement teams, and curricula review boards. I am beyond qualified to make such observations as I have. It isn't surprising the ACLU is bringing action against BMS and CCBOE for the illegal segregation of students.

I am sorry if I don't subscribe to the "good ole boy" philosophies that place incompetent teachers into administrative positions where they are completely inept and under qualified.
What problem do you have with the segregation?I believe it's a good idea because the children in middle school are all walking hormones.I think they tend to concentrate more when they are divided.I mean really what are your concerns about it.And what do your credentials have to do with the segregation policy.I grew up near Mr.Lake and his family and they are wonderful people.I think his morals are strongly needed in this day and age,children are so rude and disrespectful.Little girls aren't little girls anymore exposed to adult issues way to soon.Parents also don't hold there children responsible for there actions it's always someone else's fault or "my child would never"!And before you criticize those good ol boys I'll let u know a thing or two!I have worked in many schools in cabell and the difference between the children in town compared to some of the rural schools is night and day.Maybe you should consider homeschooling your child since your so qualified:)
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Fed Up Parent

Elizabeth, WV

#21 May 26, 2012
Well the problem with gender segregation at BMS (a coeducational, public school) is that it is highly likely to be ILLEGAL under federal law. In order to safeguard against gender discrimination, federal law prohibits coeducational schools from implementing single-gender programs unless they meet extremely stringent legal requirements. At a minimum, schools must offer a persuasive justification for the decision to institute single-gender programming, the programs must be completely voluntary, and a substantially equal co-educational alternative must be available.

So it is highly likely that this moral, Christian man is breaking or has broke federal law. Would you still sing his praises if he looked at a school like soon to be Huntington Middle School, took notice of a problem between Caucasian students & students of color, and then instituted a similar segregation policy? I am not inferring he would do this, but rather pointing to the fact that his gender segregation policies are just as illegal under federal law. So how does the board rectify these blunders? A reprimand? No. A suspension? No. A termination? No. How about with a promotion to the board office.

I think before you sing the praises of his gender segregation program, you should read the letter from the ACLU to the Cabell County School Board. Then make up your own mind.
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me

Ardsley, NY

#23 May 26, 2012
Gender segregation is not realistic, regardless of the legality. There are studies that promote it and studies that refute it. BUT,BMS is not the only school in the county, or the state even, that is implementing it. The ACLU has become involved in reference to ALL these schools, not just because of BMS and Jerry Lake. Seems like ending the separation would rectify the problem for everyone, thus making this part of the discussion null. But, I'm sure at that point someone else would find a different soapbox to preach from. I will say though, at least the last few commenters seem intelligent enough to make valid points about the problems and not just make ignorant assumptions or suggest violence as did the first few commenters. Thanks to those who at least try to make this a legitimate discussion. But I also realize this is topix and if we really wanted that I guess we would be elsewhere.
Eventually

Columbus, OH

#24 May 29, 2012
Proud Parent wrote:
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What problem do you have with the segregation?I believe it's a good idea because the children in middle school are all walking hormones.I think they tend to concentrate more when they are divided.I mean really what are your concerns about it.And what do your credentials have to do with the segregation policy.I grew up near Mr.Lake and his family and they are wonderful people.I think his morals are strongly needed in this day and age,children are so rude and disrespectful.Little girls aren't little girls anymore exposed to adult issues way to soon.Parents also don't hold there children responsible for there actions it's always someone else's fault or "my child would never"!And before you criticize those good ol boys I'll let u know a thing or two!I have worked in many schools in cabell and the difference between the children in town compared to some of the rural schools is night and day.Maybe you should consider homeschooling your child since your so qualified:)
You are laughable. Mr. Lake will not deal with his own teachers when proven to be wrong, abusive, etc..., so, your good moral man. We hold our children responsible for their behavior, but he will not hold his teachers responsible for their behavior. Respect is earned, not deserved. As far as transferring or homeschooling, we already pay enough for this school, and should not have to be forced to move schools. The day is coming that schools will not get money simply because they exist, but because they produce. When they get money for the students they retain, then the Mr. Lake's of the world will deal with internal problems.
Fed Up Parent

Huntington, WV

#25 May 29, 2012
There are good and not so good teachers in every school. From experience and in my opinion, BMS has precious few great teachers and several that do not care enough to be decent teachers. My evidence for my opinion is that the "Open House" is not attended by the teachers (we were only able to see 1 of 10 or our student's teachers because the others skipped out) and very few of the teachers keep edline updated. I also cannot count the number of times my student has come home and told me they watched "We Are Marshall" yet again.

I am also willing to venture there are good and not so good principals in every school. It is my opinion that the problems at BMS, particularly with Mr. Lake, are a bit more extreme. I have received rude and unprofessional emails from Mr. Lake. I have also been in conversations with him where he was rude and unprofessional (as well with Mr. Kapplan who can be way more rude in my opinion). If this was all it was, I'd just put my big boy pants on and forget about it; however, if the allegations made by the ACLU are founded and legally sound, someone should be called to task for breaking federal law.

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