jimim523

Monroe, MI

#213 Oct 1, 2013
One more thing.. as I re-read my last post, the E-Mail addresses I gave you are correct BUT it is:
name@united e v v .com (not a "w" as it looks in the message)
doomsayer

United States

#214 Oct 3, 2013
I heat tell that there is a loophole to "code set" mileage. Enter your run as an "assist". This is strictly a rumor.....
doomsayer

United States

#215 Oct 3, 2013
doomsayer wrote:
I heat tell that there is a loophole to "code set" mileage. Enter your run as an "assist". This is strictly a rumor.....
hear not "heat"
jimim523

Monroe, MI

#216 Oct 3, 2013
all I can say is, don't get caught doing that or else your stay with PTI will be cut short, like immediately.
Hetron

Marysville, OH

#217 Oct 4, 2013
I've been a PTI driver for over two years. I have never had a late paycheck. When there have been errors on a trip, my branch manager fixes them promptly and a adjustment is made on my next check.
Riley

Lexington, KY

#218 Oct 7, 2013
Does anyone know what the star pay is for the KY area,.CPM and Wait time?.. And im guessing its every 2 weeks pay?
jimim523

Monroe, MI

#219 Oct 7, 2013
Riley, the start pay is minimum wage, so whatever your minimum wage is in Kentucky, that would be your starting pay. Also,(IF) your branch is Union office, then there are other things that come into play. Why don't you call the office and ask them what the pay is for that area? And yes, you assumed right, every 2 weeks is payday. Can be a check sent to your office, a cash card or much better is to have automatic deposit into your checking account!!!
west virginia pti hater

United States

#220 Oct 15, 2013
Teamsters cover the rail road through the BLET (Brotherhood of Local Engineers and Trainmen) and i'm shocked they haven't started pressing PTI to pay their drivers better since it's us PTI drivers who haul their members down dangerous roads and sidings to get them to their units and equipment. Our union the Local 1222 won't even help us get a chairman in our area and i've yet to see a contract between them and PTI after working nearly 3 years there.
Change of mind

Richmond, VA

#221 Oct 15, 2013
I applied to PTI and have an interview coming up. After reading all these posts I think I may just forget about the interview and look for something else. I had no idea that this company was the way it is.

I would like to know from some current or former employees, and honestly...is this place really that bad?

I have read stories about people having to wait for long periods with out pay, having to 'fight' to get paid the correct amount, and not have a steady flow of assignments given to them.

I was hoping that this job would be better than my current job but it looks like it is just as bad or worse.

As for the pay, are those of you who have been there or currently are there really only getting about $350 a week? That is not a lot of money. I was hoping that it would pay more than that.

Cheers...
Hetron

Marysville, OH

#222 Oct 16, 2013
Jimim ...
... can you please explain how the DriveCam point systems works? I know "risky driving" will set off the camera.
Do you know:
*Who assigns points?
*How many points are given for different
risky driving infractions?
*How many points must a driver accrue
he/she receives coaching, training or
suspension.
*How long the points stay with a driver?
I heard 6 months.
RunningonFumes

Fargo, ND

#223 Oct 21, 2013
I work for PTI in Minnesota. I understand that PTI has a union. Although its a useless union. What I want to do is find out which one it is because the drivers deserve better. The pay is awful. The hours are too crazy for a sane person. But from what I hear the union is bought and paid for by PTI. IF anyone can tell me which union the drivers belong to I could get the ball running to get this union to act right or find somewhere else we can go. Because enough is enough
Exhausted

Glenwood, MN

#224 Nov 4, 2013
I also heard that if the competitive company wants to hire drivers, if we are union under PTI, they won't hire us because we are union. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Maybe Jimmy can clarify this one. Can we sign up to be a union member but if we determine we want to apply with the competitve company, can we be released from the union to work for a non-union company? I don't know if the other company is unionized or not. I am just asking what does PTI's union say about dropping out?
Hetron

Marysville, OH

#225 Nov 17, 2013
Exhausted wrote:
I also heard that if the competitive company wants to hire drivers, if we are union under PTI, they won't hire us because we are union. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Maybe Jimmy can clarify this one. Can we sign up to be a union member but if we determine we want to apply with the competitve company, can we be released from the union to work for a non-union company? I don't know if the other company is unionized or not. I am just asking what does PTI's union say about dropping out?
There is no release from the union. Joining the union is not like being a captive slave to the union. You may go to work for any company you choose-- union or non-union. The union can do nothing to stop you. Now whether your new company does not like to hire ex union member-- that's their choice.
PTI MGR

Jefferson, WI

#226 Nov 18, 2013
Change of mind wrote:
I applied to PTI and have an interview coming up. After reading all these posts I think I may just forget about the interview and look for something else. I had no idea that this company was the way it is.
I would like to know from some current or former employees, and honestly...is this place really that bad?
I have read stories about people having to wait for long periods with out pay, having to 'fight' to get paid the correct amount, and not have a steady flow of assignments given to them.
I was hoping that this job would be better than my current job but it looks like it is just as bad or worse.
As for the pay, are those of you who have been there or currently are there really only getting about $350 a week? That is not a lot of money. I was hoping that it would pay more than that.
Cheers...
This company hires drivers for on-call positions to carry railroad workers. The work is available when the railroad says it is, not controlled by PTI. The pay is a combination of waiting time and pre set mileage from location to location. For example, if you had a trip to take a "crew" from point A to point B today at noon, you woul pick up a van at the central location, go the the point of origin at point A. This is where your pay begins. You are paid waiting time from the "need time" if local, or when you pick up the vehicle and start your trip if it is a remote pick-up. Once the crew gets into the van, you enter depart on the GPS unit and you are then paid mileage to the destination - point B - and back to the central parking spot.
Waiting at home while you are on-call is NOT paid time.
Mileage is NOT paid by odometer, but preset agreed upon mileage sets which the railroad has determined to be the shortest distance for PTI to use.
Payroll errors are common, but most are linked to incorrect use of the GPS unit which is generally not well trained.
You will not make a tone of money at this, although the pay rates are generally set to a reasonable rate comparable to other entry level jobs in the same area.
This is a driving job that does not require a CDL, is not hazmat, does not require travel over the road, and consists of a lot of time simply sitting in a van.
If you want to drive, do something that will vary from day to day, and earn some relativey easy money, this can be good. If you prefer a set schedule and a job that offers regular and predictable hours, look elsewhere, this is not for you.
PTI MGR

Jefferson, WI

#227 Nov 18, 2013
Hetron wrote:
Jimim ...
... can you please explain how the DriveCam point systems works? I know "risky driving" will set off the camera.
Do you know:
*Who assigns points?
*How many points are given for different
risky driving infractions?
*How many points must a driver accrue
he/she receives coaching, training or
suspension.
*How long the points stay with a driver?
I heard 6 months.
Points are assigned based on a scale determined by PTI bosses and Drivecam. PTI management does not assign the points to the event, the drivecam people do in CA based on their agreed upon scoring system.

Three parts to Drivecam policy. First is Tier 1; if you get more than 10 points in a single event. Never saw it happen, but suppose it can. Driver is removed from service and has to retrain with safety and management.

Tier 2 Policy Related to Total DriveCam Points in a 90-Day Period
(Copied directly from policy)
The point method of evaluation should give the employee a fair chance when assessing complaints; however this method will also make sure the company is not allowing unsafe drivers to operate on the road. The following actions will be taken based on the accumulated score for the driver involved:

20 or more points General Manager is notified to take the driver out of service immediately until the driver can be evaluated by accident review board. Accident review board will make a determination on status of employment or administer necessary follow up action.
15-19 points; General Manager is notified to take the driver out of service immediately until the following minimum assessments are completed:

o Manager observation.
o FSO interview and road test.
o MVR assessment.
o Prior accident assessment.
o 100% compliance with safety training requirements

Upon completion of the above, the driver may be:
o Placed on MVR Probation
o Required to complete additional training

Any drivers with point accumulations below the above thresholds will receive coaching as necessary based upon the instructions provided to DriveCam by PTI for assigning events to coaching.

Tier 3 - Policy Related to Specific Driving Behaviors
(cannot copy the section - it is a table)
Specific actions will result in 3 part discipline. Written warning, then suspension, then termination. These offenses include smoking, talking on cell phone, and not wearing seat belts. Other things such as reckless driving or accidents are handled by safety on a case-by-case basis.

Hope this helps.
PTI MGR

Jefferson, WI

#228 Nov 18, 2013
Hetron wrote:
I've been a PTI driver for over two years. I have never had a late paycheck. When there have been errors on a trip, my branch manager fixes them promptly and a adjustment is made on my next check.
You have a good branch manager. Thank him.
Keith

Kennewick, WA

#229 Nov 28, 2013
What union are you?? Do you represents PTI ?? Yet I pay your dues but never talked to one of you reps .. Also what are you doing about the miles not payed for the long haul drivers?? Any response??? We will see...
ex csscoachptirmbm

Klamath Falls, OR

#230 Dec 11, 2013
Youknow wrote:
FYI Jim no dispatchers were transferred from Bismarck. None of them made the cut
The company came in with no notice and closed them down offered them the chance to be a driver as a parting note.
They were all great people I was there when they opened up that dispatch office.
If you do not know anything about it just keep your mouth shut please.
Too many people tailing about stuff that they don't know anything about!
ex csscoachptirmbm

Klamath Falls, OR

#231 Dec 11, 2013
Change of mind wrote:
I applied to PTI and have an interview coming up. After reading all these posts I think I may just forget about the interview and look for something else. I had no idea that this company was the way it is.
I would like to know from some current or former employees, and honestly...is this place really that bad?
I have read stories about people having to wait for long periods with out pay, having to 'fight' to get paid the correct amount, and not have a steady flow of assignments given to them.
I was hoping that this job would be better than my current job but it looks like it is just as bad or worse.
As for the pay, are those of you who have been there or currently are there really only getting about $350 a week? That is not a lot of money. I was hoping that it would pay more than that.
Cheers...
I worked with them until cutbacks in management tree.
In the area you work you will not work OT at all and ask the manager hiring you what the average person makes
Everyone should understand how they are paid and their paycheck explained to them.
The hours can be a lot of wait time and the railroad changes its mind constantly so always pack a lunch and something to drink. You can work 15 min or 12 hrs max in a stretch. If you don't mind the variances it is a fun job. There are benefits that Coach did not have which is nicer.
they do try to pay correctly but mistakes happen always track your miles and minutes yourself.
jimim523

Monroe, MI

#232 Dec 11, 2013
ex csscoachptirmbm wrote:
<quoted text>
The company came in with no notice and closed them down offered them the chance to be a driver as a parting note.
They were all great people I was there when they opened up that dispatch office.
If you do not know anything about it just keep your mouth shut please.
Too many people tailing about stuff that they don't know anything about!
Funny thing is, I DO KNOW what I am talking about. The drivers that just Toledo had out taking over coach branches, up to 20 drivers, had to deal with those so-called-dispatchers who would not, for the most part, do things the PTI way, wanted to do it the old coach way and they were fired. Those that were good, WERE offered a job in Evansville and a FEW took them up on it and moved to Evansville. However, in the end, NO Bismarck dispatchers made the cut IN Evansville.
I have said this before and if you did not go back to read this post, I will just abbreviate it for you. The "take over teams" were privy to WAY MORE information than ANY coach driver or coach manager trying out to be a PTI manager, because they were the PTI team. Things they knew, things they had to report, things they were instructed to be on the look out for, you coach drivers had NO CLUE and in total honesty, shouldn't have known anyway. I get the biggest kick out of the old ex coach people thinking they knew what was going on with a company that just took over their bankrupt company when in fact, they knew nothing. They were for the most part, lucky PTI even offered them a job from the coach documents on their drivers and managers. But most were offered a chance to become part of PTI, if they made it, great and if not, hope they found another job sooner rather than later.
PTI management and PTI Union officals, including local stewards were kept abreast of what was going on before, during and after the take overs and had "inside PTI information" that PTI drivers did not have access to on any level UNLESS they were told by management or union. So, yes, I for one, DID have the information and DID and DO know what is going on with the take overs still, thank you very much.
As for the pay,(IF) a driver, any driver, new coach or old PTI, who was taught how the pay works (wait time vs drive time vs the code books) then for the most part, they can figure their pay and it is very close (variables happen). If they have this "pie in the sky thinking" going on, like they make wait time even when driving or they get paid mileage that the railroad and PTI calculated out from point A to point B NO MATTER WHAT IT SAYS ON THE ODOMETER, they will then bitch about their pay every pay day. It is up to the Branch Manager and reinforced by the trainer, that everyone knows how to calculate their pay and understand it. If that is not done, then I don't fault the driver (until they are taught or they on their own learn how pay works) for being upset. But mostly, they are taught correctly, but through office gossip, or speculation or just plain misinformation other employees like to give out like they know everything, new drivers begin to forget what they were taught and begin acting like idiots demanding pay they were not EVER entitled to and form this grudge thing about how PTI screwed them out of pay.

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