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TSF

Fayetteville, NC

#16574 Jul 29, 2012
While I do not resent the taxes that I have paid, it does irritate me to see people who have not paid any taxes getting tax benefits and EITC. In 2010, 59.5 billion dollars of EITC went to millions of low income workers. I dont like that. What REALLY galls my chaps is to see just one corporation like General Electric earn 14 Billion dollars, pay zero taxes , outsource 21,000 jobs and then on top that get 3.2 billion dollars in tax credits from the US. Now that is what I call an entitlement. All of it needs to stop.

Since: Dec 11

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#16575 Jul 29, 2012
TSF wrote:
While I do not resent the taxes that I have paid, it does irritate me to see people who have not paid any taxes getting tax benefits and EITC. In 2010, 59.5 billion dollars of EITC went to millions of low income workers. I dont like that. What REALLY galls my chaps is to see just one corporation like General Electric earn 14 Billion dollars, pay zero taxes , outsource 21,000 jobs and then on top that get 3.2 billion dollars in tax credits from the US. Now that is what I call an entitlement. All of it needs to stop.
Since we're calling out on outsourcing, the CEO of GE is Jeffrey Immelt and Obama appointed him as head of Obama's Job's Council. This article I'm posting speaks volumes because I think Dem, Repub, Lib whatever, are all guilty as sin of sending jobs overseas if not directly, but rewarding those that do and rubbing it in the faces of people in the U.S. that need those jobs.

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/g...

Since: Dec 11

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#16576 Jul 29, 2012
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
Silver, Does a homosexual couple(not married) raising a child with love and proper guidance bother you? Does a heterosexual couple (not married) raising a child in a violent and destructive environment bother you? Which of the two environments would you prefer the child to be raised in?
Silver, for you while you were away.

“Arch Nemisis of Democrats”

Since: Jun 12

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#16577 Jul 29, 2012
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
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Silver, for you while you were away.
I wouldn't raise a child in neither of those two environments. sorry, I missed it.

“Arch Nemisis of Democrats”

Since: Jun 12

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#16578 Jul 29, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
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Since we're calling out on outsourcing, the CEO of GE is Jeffrey Immelt and Obama appointed him as head of Obama's Job's Council. This article I'm posting speaks volumes because I think Dem, Repub, Lib whatever, are all guilty as sin of sending jobs overseas if not directly, but rewarding those that do and rubbing it in the faces of people in the U.S. that need those jobs.
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/g...
Concur. While I support my teams candidate, Mitt was not my first choice.
Taxpayer

Camden, NC

#16579 Jul 29, 2012
TSF wrote:
While I do not resent the taxes that I have paid, it does irritate me to see people who have not paid any taxes getting tax benefits and EITC. In 2010, 59.5 billion dollars of EITC went to millions of low income workers. I dont like that. What REALLY galls my chaps is to see just one corporation like General Electric earn 14 Billion dollars, pay zero taxes , outsource 21,000 jobs and then on top that get 3.2 billion dollars in tax credits from the US. Now that is what I call an entitlement. All of it needs to stop.
General Electric has given tens of thousands of people jobs. How many jobs have you made for people? General Electric spends Billions to make Billions and when something goes wrong they lose Billions. You act like 14 billion is a lot of money, not if you had to invest 100 billion to make it. As far as outsourcing jobs why not? Hiring people in the United Socialist system we have can bankrupt even the best company. Besides the quality of worker is low because they know they do not have to produce the socialist system rewards dead beats.

“Arch Nemisis of Democrats”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#16580 Jul 29, 2012
Taxpayer wrote:
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General Electric has given tens of thousands of people jobs. How many jobs have you made for people? General Electric spends Billions to make Billions and when something goes wrong they lose Billions. You act like 14 billion is a lot of money, not if you had to invest 100 billion to make it. As far as outsourcing jobs why not? Hiring people in the United Socialist system we have can bankrupt even the best company. Besides the quality of worker is low because they know they do not have to produce the socialist system rewards dead beats.
What about the insourcing of farming jobs and labor jobs to some green carded migrant workers but a vast majority of illegals? Is that just as bad?

Since: Dec 11

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#16581 Jul 29, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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I wouldn't raise a child in neither of those two environments. sorry, I missed it.
Thats a cop out. I asked you which one would be the better.
TSF

Fayetteville, NC

#16582 Jul 29, 2012
You are absolutely right about Immelt and Obama rubbing it in our faces. The last official act of any government is to loot the country. It has been happening since 2000. Obama is not my choice and neither is Mitt the Twitt. I just think that given no other realistic choices, Obama will hopefull do the least damage. Our only chance would be to recover control of our corrupt prostitutes in congress.
Makin bacon wrote:
<quoted text>
Since we're calling out on outsourcing, the CEO of GE is Jeffrey Immelt and Obama appointed him as head of Obama's Job's Council. This article I'm posting speaks volumes because I think Dem, Repub, Lib whatever, are all guilty as sin of sending jobs overseas if not directly, but rewarding those that do and rubbing it in the faces of people in the U.S. that need those jobs.
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/g...

“Arch Nemisis of Democrats”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#16583 Jul 29, 2012
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
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Thats a cop out. I asked you which one would be the better.
I answered your question and you say it is a cop out. Again, neither environment is ideal, in my opinion, for raising a child. The first, parents are gay. That, in itself, wouldn't happen in North Carolina but does happen everyday. Fact of life I don't like but it does happen. Second example happens everyday as well and is just as bad as your first example.

Don't agree with my opinion? Ok. You are entitled to yours.

I like how your postures are all validated but our are not. And I am the douche bag for supporting my team? Or are you guys bigger douche bags for not having tolerance for those that do not agree with you or your opinion?
TSF

Fayetteville, NC

#16584 Jul 29, 2012
You are FOS as a Christmas turkey. US workers are the most productive and diligent workers in the world. On the slight chance that you have ever provided a job and experienced what you claim, it is because of your own lack of leadership, lack understanding of human nature and greed. Workers are experts at quiet sabotage when they know they are being cheated. Loyalty goes two ways. Apparently that is a lesson you never learned. I would venture to say that you got exactly what you deserved. Keeping an incompetent foot dragger on the payroll because you can pay him minimum wage is about a stupid as it gets. I would rather pay fair wages to competent hard workers to get the job done and share some of the profit with them for motivation. Trained skilled workers are the most valuable asset any company has. If you ever made any money,it must have been an accident.

Another subtlety that escapes idiots like you is that big business payoff to congress is the reason for the oppression of small business and subsidies to mega corporations.. Its the opposite of free enterprise, created and supported by the prostitutes of both parties in congress.
Taxpayer wrote:
<quoted text>
General Electric has given tens of thousands of people jobs. How many jobs have you made for people? General Electric spends Billions to make Billions and when something goes wrong they lose Billions. You act like 14 billion is a lot of money, not if you had to invest 100 billion to make it. As far as outsourcing jobs why not? Hiring people in the United Socialist system we have can bankrupt even the best company. Besides the quality of worker is low because they know they do not have to produce the socialist system rewards dead beats.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#16585 Jul 29, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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What about the insourcing of farming jobs and labor jobs to some green carded migrant workers but a vast majority of illegals? Is that just as bad?
Illegal is not good in any sense. We all agree to that. Are there farm produce labor jobs in California that illegal immigrants are taking that Native Americans want and are being denied? How many jobs would that be? How much do you think California fruits and vegetables would cost in your local grocery store if migrant workers would not be willing to work for a low wage? Double? Triple? What would you say?

Since: Dec 11

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#16586 Jul 29, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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I answered your question and you say it is a cop out. Again, neither environment is ideal, in my opinion, for raising a child. The first, parents are gay. That, in itself, wouldn't happen in North Carolina but does happen everyday. Fact of life I don't like but it does happen. Second example happens everyday as well and is just as bad as your first example.
Don't agree with my opinion? Ok. You are entitled to yours.
I like how your postures are all validated but our are not. And I am the douche bag for supporting my team? Or are you guys bigger douche bags for not having tolerance for those that do not agree with you or your opinion?
You know that the love and support that parents have for their children as well as each other is the main ingredient for a happy and productive child. The sex of the home authority is a secondary issue.If I were dying and if I had a choice to leave one of my young children in the choices that I gave you (that you never really answered) why would I send my child to an abusive home just because there was a male and female in a union? Do you see the divorce rate today? Do you see the number of domestic violence issues? Alcoholism? Drug addiction? Would I want my child left in that environment? And you would demand your child be placed in a heterosexual home with these abusive acts over the choice of a homosexual home where love and support were the main concerns for his well-being? That is just unbelievable.

“Arch Nemisis of Democrats”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#16587 Jul 29, 2012
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
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Illegal is not good in any sense. We all agree to that. Are there farm produce labor jobs in California that illegal immigrants are taking that Native Americans want and are being denied? How many jobs would that be? How much do you think California fruits and vegetables would cost in your local grocery store if migrant workers would not be willing to work for a low wage? Double? Triple? What would you say?
I don't work in that industry but I speculate you would see little to no ill affect with the new policy, from Obama, on mexican foreign nationals. You might see a spike initally, but it would eventually level out to meet demands. And I only speak on the mexicans because they are what I am familiar with here in North Carolina, and yes I do know they are not all mexicans. But like you said, illegal is illegal. And when you are hungry enough, you will do what you got to do to provide for your family.

But when did California become the baraometer for how we interact with one another here in North Carolina? California problems are exactly that, California problems. North Carolina is a vastly different state with different ideals and people.

“Arch Nemisis of Democrats”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#16588 Jul 29, 2012
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
<quoted text>
You know that the love and support that parents have for their children as well as each other is the main ingredient for a happy and productive child. If I were dying and if I had a choice to leave one of my young children in the choices that I gave you (that you never really answered) why would I send my child to an abusive home just because there was a male and female in a union? Do you see the divorce rate today? Do you see the number of domestic violence issues? Alcoholism? Drug addiction? Would I want my child left in that environment? And you would demand your child be placed in a heterosexual home with these abusive acts over the choice of a homosexual home where love and support were the main concerns for his well-being? That is just unbelievable.
"You know that the love and support that parents have for their children as well as each other is the main ingredient for a happy and productive child."

I concur with this statement.

"The sex of the home authority is a secondary issue."

I disagree with this statement. Because it goes against the traditional marriage, of man and woman. It is infered that the sustainment of life is through procreation, a natural process of man and woman, and I know there are traditional marriages out there that can not procreate without outside help. That is a miniscule portion of traditional marriages. With same sex marriages, that is the only way for them to sustain life. With outside help. So, what happens to mankind when there is no outside help?? We die out like the dinosaurs? Tell that to your kids when they ask why are "we" dying off and be honest with them on why.

Like I said before, I am no scientist, psychatrist or anthropologist. But it has been determined that humans are at the top of the evolutionary ladder and because of that, one could deduct we are supposed to know the difference between right and wrong more so that monkeys, ameobias, and plankton. Cognitive ability to reason. Determining the difference between right and wrong. Animals have to be taught. While some humans have to too, not always the case everytime.

I agree divorce rate is ridiculous and like I said before, it should be like climbing Mount Everest to get married(shows honest commitment), but if you have to divorce(which I do not condone), then, in rare cases, it should be easier than what it is now in North Carolina.

I would not send a child into any kind of abusive environment, regardless of the type of abuse. But if you are challenging my posture on my prejudice and raising children I will humor you.

I never forced my beliefs on my children other than abstain on premarital sex, but if you must have sex, then be safe about it. I know kids are going to experiment with drinking and drugs and the like, but if I caught them and they lied then they were out of my house. Of course it would not of been an easy deicision to make, but a necessary one to instill proper discipline in the child to reinforce the difference between right and wrong.

"Silver, Does a homosexual couple(not married) raising a child with love and proper guidance bother you? Does a heterosexual couple (not married) raising a child in a violent and destructive environment bother you? Which of the two environments would you prefer the child to be raised in?"

"If I were dying and if I had a choice to leave one of my young children in the choices that I gave you (that you never really answered)"

You were not that specific on your intial post. Nice try. You can always send your "kids" over to Mike's house. He is the "crusader" looking to be a hero by making a difference through his community support theories.

Since "kids" haven't developed their cognitive abilities to know difference between right or wrong fully, why would you expose them to something that contriversal to begin with?

What civil rights am I alledgely depriving them of now? Kids are not peers.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#16589 Jul 30, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
<quoted text>
"You know that the love and support that parents have for their children as well as each other is the main ingredient for a happy and productive child."
I concur with this statement.
"The sex of the home authority is a secondary issue."
I disagree with this statement. Because it goes against the traditional marriage, of man and woman. It is infered that the sustainment of life is through procreation, a natural process of man and woman, and I know there are traditional marriages out there that can not procreate without outside help. That is a miniscule portion of traditional marriages. With same sex marriages, that is the only way for them to sustain life. With outside help. So, what happens to mankind when there is no outside help?? We die out like the dinosaurs? Tell that to your kids when they ask why are "we" dying off and be honest with them on why.
Like I said before, I am no scientist, psychatrist or anthropologist. But it has been determined that humans are at the top of the evolutionary ladder and because of that, one could deduct we are supposed to know the difference between right and wrong more so that monkeys, ameobias, and plankton. Cognitive ability to reason. Determining the difference between right and wrong. Animals have to be taught. While some humans have to too, not

I would not send a child into any kind of abusive environment, regardless of the type of abuse. But if you are challenging my posture on my prejudice and raising children I will humor you.
I never forced my beliefs on my children other than abstain on premarital sex, but if you must have sex, then be safe about it. I know kids are going to experiment with drinking and drugs and the like, but if I caught them and they lied then they were out of my house. Of course it would not of been an easy deicision to make, but a necessary one to instill proper discipline in the child to reinforce the difference between right and wrong.
"Silver, Does a homosexual couple(not married) raising a child with love and proper guidance bother you? Does a heterosexual couple (not married) raising a child in a violent and destructive environment bother you? Which of the two environments would you prefer the child to be raised in?"
"If I were dying and if I had a choice to leave one of my young children in the choices that I gave you (that you never really answered)"
You were not that specific on your intial post. Nice try. You can always send your "kids" over to Mike's house. He is the "crusader" looking to be a hero by making a difference through his community support theories.
Since "kids" haven't developed their cognitive abilities to know difference between right or wrong fully, why would you expose them to something that contriversal to begin with?
What civil rights am I alledgely depriving them of now? Kids are not peers.
You have two massive contradictions here. One is, you cannot say love is the most important ingredient in parenting then say the sex of the parent is first also. Only one can be first. You are not very good at these sort of questions. You cannot have your cake and eat it also.

Second. If a child does not have full cognitive development, why would you kick them out of the house for breaking a rule? This sort of 'punishment' will almost certainly lead the child to fail in life and likely dive more into the drugs or alcohol you wish him to abstain from.

Abandoning your child is abuse in my book. You are at that point, running away from parenting.
Drinking and drugs are not the end of the world for a kid. Many are just experimenting, as kids do.
And I wonder what kind of example you set. Do you drink in front of them? If so, then you are not setting an example of abstinence.
I have never drank or done drugs in front of my kid. I showed him these things are not as important than society leads him to think it is. But if you are drinking in front of them, you are only condoning the act.
AFF

Camden, NC

#16590 Jul 30, 2012
TSF wrote:
You are FOS as a Christmas turkey. US workers are the most productive and diligent workers in the world. On the slight chance that you have ever provided a job and experienced what you claim, it is because of your own lack of leadership, lack understanding of human nature and greed. Workers are experts at quiet sabotage when they know they are being cheated. Loyalty goes two ways. Apparently that is a lesson you never learned. I would venture to say that you got exactly what you deserved. Keeping an incompetent foot dragger on the payroll because you can pay him minimum wage is about a stupid as it gets. I would rather pay fair wages to competent hard workers to get the job done and share some of the profit with them for motivation. Trained skilled workers are the most valuable asset any company has. If you ever made any money,it must have been an accident.
Another subtlety that escapes idiots like you is that big business payoff to congress is the reason for the oppression of small business and subsidies to mega corporations.. Its the opposite of free enterprise, created and supported by the prostitutes of both parties in congress.
<quoted text>
One assumption after another. Not a clue of reality. From the way you talk you never run a business. If you work, I would say you probably ride on the backs of your coworkers.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#16591 Jul 30, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
<quoted text>

"The sex of the home authority is a secondary issue."
I disagree with this statement. Because it goes against the traditional marriage, of man and woman. It is infered that the sustainment of life is through procreation, a natural process of man and woman, and I know there are traditional marriages out there that can not procreate without outside help. That is a miniscule portion of traditional marriages. With same sex marriages, that is the only way for them to sustain life. With outside help. So, what happens to mankind when there is no outside help?? We die out like the dinosaurs? Tell that to your kids when they ask why are "we" dying off and be honest with them on why.
Like I said before, I am no scientist, psychatrist or anthropologist..
You certainly are no scientist. Humans are a group species. They need each other to ensure survival in many ways, not just to procreate but also to survive and prosper.

In a civilized society, not each individual farms, makes tools, hunts,makes medicine, or builds his own home. Civilized societies work as teams. Specializations.
You are ignoring this elementary fact of humanity in your view of the reality.
Homosexuals are a part of team humanity. If they do not have children, they are likely to help the family raise their children. Families are teams. Not isolated to immediate family.
Each person can contribute to the village raising the child.

It is an ignorant idea that humanity would ever dwindle down to only homosexuals. Is this what you are actually worried about?
We are now in a population overload. You really do not need to worry about to little children. You need to worry about to many children.

You show a consistent extremist, black and white view of the world. Learn the grey areas and deal with it. Life is no Utopia. Utopia is an impossibility.
TSF

Fayetteville, NC

#16592 Jul 30, 2012
You obviously think the only "business" model is running a sweat shop, using forced child labor and treating your employees like crap. Then duh, your suspicions of their disloyalty and lack of enthusiasm are confirmed. The only leadership training you ever received was working as a whip master in a "Braweehill" sweatshop. Because you are a dishonest piece of crap, you think and expect that from others. It becomes a self full filling prophesy.
If you are hiring lazy incompetent dead beats, who is at fault there? You or them? If the work isn't worth paying a fair wage, then do it yourself or leave the task undone.
AFF wrote:
<quoted text>
One assumption after another. Not a clue of reality. From the way you talk you never run a business. If you work, I would say you probably ride on the backs of your coworkers.

“Arch Nemisis of Democrats”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#16593 Jul 30, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>You have two massive contradictions here. One is, you cannot say love is the most important ingredient in parenting then say the sex of the parent is first also. Only one can be first. You are not very good at these sort of questions. You cannot have your cake and eat it also.
Second. If a child does not have full cognitive development, why would you kick them out of the house for breaking a rule? This sort of 'punishment' will almost certainly lead the child to fail in life and likely dive more into the drugs or alcohol you wish him to abstain from.
Abandoning your child is abuse in my book. You are at that point, running away from parenting.
Drinking and drugs are not the end of the world for a kid. Many are just experimenting, as kids do.
And I wonder what kind of example you set. Do you drink in front of them? If so, then you are not setting an example of abstinence.
I have never drank or done drugs in front of my kid. I showed him these things are not as important than society leads him to think it is. But if you are drinking in front of them, you are only condoning the act.
Again Mikey, that is why you are you and I am me. You pull from your book and I will pull from mine.

And again, my kids were and are not my peers. They are my kids. They are not my friends. I don't have to explain myself to them because I am their parent. And as an adult, I can do pretty much as I please when I choose to do so, even if I wanted to drink in front of them. Contradiction? Not the case because drinking is legal at the age of 21. Never smoked marijuana but that is also illegal too. Like I said, my kids never pushed me into that corner. And at some point Mike, you have to stop picking them up so they can learn to pick themselves up.

Glad you set an example to your kid. By God I hope so, because if you hadn't that is abuse by my book. I guess being a bar manager is a stellar career example for a kid to model himself after. Keep trying with the left wing half truth tactics Mike. I see you are a bitter man, not sure why. But don't pin your failures or misfortunes on us. They are yours and yours alone.

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