Pointe Coupee Schools Finish in Botto...

Pointe Coupee Schools Finish in Bottom Six

There are 86 comments on the www.2theadvocate.com story from Mar 5, 2008, titled Pointe Coupee Schools Finish in Bottom Six . In it, www.2theadvocate.com reports that:

Schools in the Pointe Coupee districted finished the year in the bottom six of all public school systems in Louisiana in academic performance, according to district performance scores released Tuesday http://www.louisianaschools.net/lde/uploads/12117.xls.

The school districted received a "marginal" rating in the area of teacher certifications.

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“Time flies like an arrow...”

Since: Mar 07

"fruit flies like a banana"

#1 Mar 5, 2008
Why are the voters in Pointe Coupee allowing their schools to be flushed down the toilet?

The school board is responsible for hiring quality teachers and providing classrooms and materials conducive to a quality education.

Neighboring West Feliciana schools rank #2 in the state. Nearby Zachary ranks #1. Each of these districts has ONE high school and ONE middle school.

Email addresses for all school board members can be found here http://pointecoupee.groupfusion.net/modules/c... .

Take 5 minutes to email them and tell them you're as mad as hell and you're not going to take it anymore.

This is the school board's report card http://www.louisianaschools.net/lde/uploads/1... . They are clearly failing.
Husband of a Teacher

United States

#2 Mar 5, 2008
pragmatist wrote:
Why are the voters in Pointe Coupee allowing their schools to be flushed down the toilet?
The school board is responsible for hiring quality teachers and providing classrooms and materials conducive to a quality education.
Neighboring West Feliciana schools rank #2 in the state. Nearby Zachary ranks #1. Each of these districts has ONE high school and ONE middle school.
Email addresses for all school board members can be found here http://pointecoupee.groupfusion.net/modules/c... .
Take 5 minutes to email them and tell them you're as mad as hell and you're not going to take it anymore.
This is the school board's report card http://www.louisianaschools.net/lde/uploads/1... . They are clearly failing.
What, they were expected to actually DO SOMETHING after they got elected??? As much as the school board is at fault, the parents share the blame. GET INVOLVED!! The state is also to blame. Schools with low scores get penalized by receiving less funding. That's a great way to fix the problem!! So, what are they doing now, trying to pass a bill to help with the cost of private school tuition b/c the public schools aren't teaching the kids well enough. PUT SOME MONEY INTO MAKING IT BETTER!!
wow

United States

#3 Mar 5, 2008
look at the bright side , one year growth rate PC is 24th out of 64. free and reduced numbers are alarming at 75%.
MEme

Livonia, LA

#4 Mar 5, 2008
I dont care what anyone says, but its not the all the "parents" job. I help my child as much as possible, we study we have projects, she completes her work. After school I ask " how was your test" (ans) we didnt have it, our teacher had a meeting with the cheerleaders. THIS kind of shit gets to me. What is more important cheerleaders or "READING". LHS nor its teachers, faculty nor school board has any of these kids as top priority. THE teachers arent certified so they are only learning baseline,(get away with it) teaching. WOW, I can see why we never go anywhere in the rankings. BUT I damn sure did pay taxes this year, on both my home and business. And these teachers want a pay raise, wanting more taxes, LETS take away the paychecks of the schoolboard members until PROGRESS is shown.
I cant stand it anymore

Baton Rouge, LA

#5 Mar 5, 2008
If it was really important to you parents then you would move to a better school district (across the river to st francisville) and get your moneys worth out of your taxes.

or

quit smoking drinking and wasting your money and invest in your childs future in private school. Stop wasting your money on big cars and expensive shoes and clothes and get your children as good of an education as you can.

If you wait on the school board or the crappy teachers in pointe coupee it ain't going to happen in your childrens time span that they will be in school. You will waste your childs valuable time waiting on a corrupt broken system. If you want them to have an education then get them to a place where they can learn and stop waiting on someone else to do it for you! It's your responsibility to take care of your children not the governments. And before you start talking about how poor you are and you can't afford it, think about all the money you waste. If you want to give your children a chance then do it and quit complaining about a broke system that is going to get worse before it gets better.

time to bail out the plane is going down!!
Husband of a Teacher

United States

#6 Mar 5, 2008
MEme wrote:
I dont care what anyone says, but its not the all the "parents" job. I help my child as much as possible, we study we have projects, she completes her work. After school I ask " how was your test" (ans) we didnt have it, our teacher had a meeting with the cheerleaders. THIS kind of shit gets to me. What is more important cheerleaders or "READING". LHS nor its teachers, faculty nor school board has any of these kids as top priority. THE teachers arent certified so they are only learning baseline,(get away with it) teaching. WOW, I can see why we never go anywhere in the rankings. BUT I damn sure did pay taxes this year, on both my home and business. And these teachers want a pay raise, wanting more taxes, LETS take away the paychecks of the schoolboard members until PROGRESS is shown.
Please understand that there is not one teacher in the parish asking for a tax increase. That is the thought process of Rawls and the board. No matter how much you think you are paying in taxes, it is less than all of the surrounding areas. That's why the other parishes have new schools, better teachers, and thus happy parents. Those communities stood up and said "What will it take to make our schools better?" #1 Vote people into office that care #2 Give them the money they need to succeed. Without a decent pay scale you will NEVER have good teachers that are willing to stay in the parish. Nobody can argue that. Don't fault the teachers for wanting to get paid better, everyone that has a job wants the same thing. It's just much harder for them to get any kind of pay raise b/c it is public funding that is needed. Show up in droves to the school board meetings if you want change.
MEme

Livonia, LA

#7 Mar 5, 2008
Yeah, I guess youre right, but years ago, what did we vote in the casino's for? Wasnt the money going towards education? And just think Pinnacle is building again. Oh I pity the teachers and believe it or not I have a daughter that is graduating in the spring to be an EDUCATOR IN THE FINE STATE OF LOUISIANA. She loves it though, I think she is going to teach 11th grade history, but says one day she'll go back to school and wants to become a professor.....I think we should all go to the LHS gym advise the school board that we want a meeting of the parents and see if they will even attend...So, on our childs high school transcript when a university see's that our children went to PC schools that averaged in the bottom six, will they get punished for this??
Moonbootz

Ponchatoula, LA

#8 Mar 5, 2008
At this point I'm just happy that we weren't the worst. I hear that the bottom five were St. Helena Parish schools, Madison Parish Schools, City of Baker Schools, Franklin Parish Schools, and some other place that I can't remember right now. Is that correct or did I get some of them mixed up with the top five, I'm very good at doing that sort of thing. lol.
Husband of a Teacher

United States

#9 Mar 5, 2008
MEme wrote:
Yeah, I guess youre right, but years ago, what did we vote in the casino's for? Wasnt the money going towards education? And just think Pinnacle is building again. Oh I pity the teachers and believe it or not I have a daughter that is graduating in the spring to be an EDUCATOR IN THE FINE STATE OF LOUISIANA. She loves it though, I think she is going to teach 11th grade history, but says one day she'll go back to school and wants to become a professor.....I think we should all go to the LHS gym advise the school board that we want a meeting of the parents and see if they will even attend...So, on our childs high school transcript when a university see's that our children went to PC schools that averaged in the bottom six, will they get punished for this??
That was political propoganda. Maybe some of the money went to education, but it was done under a broad statement so that the state could spend it as they saw fit. Not neccessarily the RIGHT way. Which is the same thing the PCP school board did. Rawls was asked if the new tax he wants would have specific wording saying that the money would be dedicated to teacher pay raises, and said he could not promise that. They are looking for another handout to bail themselves out. But that shouldn't automatically mean everyone should oppose it. It means we need to step up and say how we want OUR money spent. Don't leave any loose ends this time. Oh, and Rawls has already been asked to call a community meeting to present his ideas but you haven't seen that invite yet have you? He wants everyone to think it is the teachers idea.
NEED ONE

United States

#10 Mar 5, 2008
What kind of raise you think Bado has in mind for Rawls after such a wonderful ranking. Maybe a 50% raise!!!
Husband of a Teacher

United States

#11 Mar 5, 2008
Moonbootz wrote:
At this point I'm just happy that we weren't the worst. I hear that the bottom five were St. Helena Parish schools, Madison Parish Schools, City of Baker Schools, Franklin Parish Schools, and some other place that I can't remember right now. Is that correct or did I get some of them mixed up with the top five, I'm very good at doing that sort of thing. lol.
The scores of PCCHS make the overall scores drop, but the others still should not be acceptable. People need to wake up before it's too late. There is still enough there to salvage with enough hard work, but the day of no return is creeping up.
Hmmmmmm

Covington, LA

#12 Mar 5, 2008
Husband of a Teacher wrote:
<quoted text>
What, they were expected to actually DO SOMETHING after they got elected??? As much as the school board is at fault, the parents share the blame. GET INVOLVED!! The state is also to blame. Schools with low scores get penalized by receiving less funding. That's a great way to fix the problem!! So, what are they doing now, trying to pass a bill to help with the cost of private school tuition b/c the public schools aren't teaching the kids well enough. PUT SOME MONEY INTO MAKING IT BETTER!!
Hmmmmm....let me think about this. You blame everyone BUT teachers. Are you saying they IF our teachers get paid more, then they will actually DO their jobs?...interesting!

And why shouldn't the taxpayers who pay for BOTH public and private school children to attend school get a tax credit for doing so?
Livonia

Covington, LA

#13 Mar 5, 2008
pragmatist wrote:
Why are the voters in Pointe Coupee allowing their schools to be flushed down the toilet?
The school board is responsible for hiring quality teachers and providing classrooms and materials conducive to a quality education.
Neighboring West Feliciana schools rank #2 in the state. Nearby Zachary ranks #1. Each of these districts has ONE high school and ONE middle school.
Email addresses for all school board members can be found here http://pointecoupee.groupfusion.net/modules/c... .
Take 5 minutes to email them and tell them you're as mad as hell and you're not going to take it anymore.
This is the school board's report card http://www.louisianaschools.net/lde/uploads/1... . They are clearly failing.
Over all the parents are alot better across the river.
LHS Parent

Livonia, LA

#14 Mar 5, 2008
Hmmmmmm wrote:
<quoted text>
Hmmmmm....let me think about this. You blame everyone BUT teachers. Are you saying they IF our teachers get paid more, then they will actually DO their jobs?...interesting!
And why shouldn't the taxpayers who pay for BOTH public and private school children to attend school get a tax credit for doing so?
Couldn't agree with you more! More money doesn't fix everything! Look, LHS's scores went down also! Where is Bado now? Husband of a teacher, LHS's scores went down, along with most of the schools in Pointe Coupee, how do you explain this? Money shouldn't be give to schools that are failing, that is a reward for passing schools, besides, how is the little money given out going to help failing schools? How would more money help PC Parish schools? I say, NO MORE TAXES _ EVER!!!!!!
MEme

Livonia, LA

#15 Mar 5, 2008
Of course scores are going down, when we have teachers that tell these students that if they fail they can get their GED. I just cant understand this action. ITS going to take educating the SCHOOL BOARD first to get these scores higher. I saw a paper from my child this week for incentives if they do well on their ILeap testing. This is nice, but if our children are only taught on base line education and the test is overall statewide testing then our kids again will have failing scores. WE NEED EDUCATED CERTIFIED TEACHERS AND NOT A PRINCIPAL THAT WILL TAKE UP FOR THESE TEACHERS THAT ARENT CERTIFIED AND SAY" THESE TEACHERS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB'. I will help my child do the best she can do, but if she is only taught base line , then I cant help her either.
LHS Parent

Livonia, LA

#16 Mar 5, 2008
MEme wrote:
Of course scores are going down, when we have teachers that tell these students that if they fail they can get their GED. I just cant understand this action. ITS going to take educating the SCHOOL BOARD first to get these scores higher. I saw a paper from my child this week for incentives if they do well on their ILeap testing. This is nice, but if our children are only taught on base line education and the test is overall statewide testing then our kids again will have failing scores. WE NEED EDUCATED CERTIFIED TEACHERS AND NOT A PRINCIPAL THAT WILL TAKE UP FOR THESE TEACHERS THAT ARENT CERTIFIED AND SAY" THESE TEACHERS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB'. I will help my child do the best she can do, but if she is only taught base line , then I cant help her either.
Thank Bado for this, he is the one who has put most of these people in place! I quess if we can win "a few" football games everything is OK! Hell, we are not even much good at that! Ask how many coaches and sponsors are ceritified!
Husband of a Teacher

United States

#17 Mar 6, 2008
Hmmmmmm wrote:
<quoted text>
Hmmmmm....let me think about this. You blame everyone BUT teachers. Are you saying they IF our teachers get paid more, then they will actually DO their jobs?...interesting!
And why shouldn't the taxpayers who pay for BOTH public and private school children to attend school get a tax credit for doing so?
No, it doesn't make teachers do a better job, it KEEPS the good ones in the parish. That is why you see inexperienced teachers here. The good ones that know they are worth more money move on. All the so called good schools are able to have 100% certified teachers while the others are forced to accept anyone with a college degree no matter how competent they are. Also, please show me where I said people shouldn't get the tax credit. I said that the arguement made by the PUBLIC officials is the wrong one. If they tried to fund the public schools with the same effort, maybe you wouldn't have to worry about spending $5,000-$10,000 to educate your child. I'd sure rather save that money than get $300 at the end of the year, wouldn't you?
Husband of a Teacher

United States

#18 Mar 6, 2008
LHS Parent wrote:
<quoted text>Couldn't agree with you more! More money doesn't fix everything! Look, LHS's scores went down also! Where is Bado now? Husband of a teacher, LHS's scores went down, along with most of the schools in Pointe Coupee, how do you explain this? Money shouldn't be give to schools that are failing, that is a reward for passing schools, besides, how is the little money given out going to help failing schools? How would more money help PC Parish schools? I say, NO MORE TAXES _ EVER!!!!!!
Hmmm, let's see. Let's establish an after school tutoring program(that takes money). Let's invest in better technology(that takes money). Let's pay for well trained certified teachers(that takes money). Let's provide a clean and safe enivronment for the kids to learn in(that takes money). If your house was falling down around you, would you be able to fix it without spending money to do so? If the state continues to only fund the schools with the highest scores, how does that help the ENTIRE state as a whole? It's like taking 1 step forward and 2 steps back.
Hmmmmmm

Covington, LA

#19 Mar 6, 2008
Husband of a Teacher wrote:
<quoted text>
Hmmm, let's see. Let's establish an after school tutoring program(that takes money). Let's invest in better technology(that takes money). Let's pay for well trained certified teachers(that takes money). Let's provide a clean and safe enivronment for the kids to learn in(that takes money). If your house was falling down around you, would you be able to fix it without spending money to do so? If the state continues to only fund the schools with the highest scores, how does that help the ENTIRE state as a whole? It's like taking 1 step forward and 2 steps back.
I completely understand your feelings especially as you see and hear the frustrations of your spouse daily.

One thing left out of your equation is the lack of teachers who genuinely care about the kids they are teaching. Psychological testing of individuals prior to beginning their conquest of teaching degrees could help weed out certain individuals who merely seek a job to have the same time off as their own children.

We have to fill our classrooms with teachers who care about and treat each child as if he/she was their own. We have to fill our classrooms with teachers who treat each child with respect..the same respect that each child will then return to the teacher. We have to fill our classrooms with teachers who will encourage each child to do the very best they can do. In other words, we have to fill our classrooms with teachers who will have (or display) the unconditional love for each child in his/her classroom. Can more money buy this kind of a teacher...I think not.

It's a different world that we live in now than it was when public education was first established. Many of our PC kids come to class with the feelings that their teachers could care less about them...so why should they bother. Some of them already lack the unconditional love from home thus have a feeling of poor self worth. If that attitude continues in the classroom then discipline problems arise which makes a very poor learning environment.

Excuse me while I step down from my soap box....
Husband of a Teacher

United States

#20 Mar 6, 2008
Hmmmmmm wrote:
<quoted text>
I completely understand your feelings especially as you see and hear the frustrations of your spouse daily.
One thing left out of your equation is the lack of teachers who genuinely care about the kids they are teaching. Psychological testing of individuals prior to beginning their conquest of teaching degrees could help weed out certain individuals who merely seek a job to have the same time off as their own children.
We have to fill our classrooms with teachers who care about and treat each child as if he/she was their own. We have to fill our classrooms with teachers who treat each child with respect..the same respect that each child will then return to the teacher. We have to fill our classrooms with teachers who will encourage each child to do the very best they can do. In other words, we have to fill our classrooms with teachers who will have (or display) the unconditional love for each child in his/her classroom. Can more money buy this kind of a teacher...I think not.
It's a different world that we live in now than it was when public education was first established. Many of our PC kids come to class with the feelings that their teachers could care less about them...so why should they bother. Some of them already lack the unconditional love from home thus have a feeling of poor self worth. If that attitude continues in the classroom then discipline problems arise which makes a very poor learning environment.
Excuse me while I step down from my soap box....
YES, I do think that spending more money on our schools can produce what you are looking for. I think that is the ONLY way it can be done. Like I said, the good teachers are moving to places that DO spend money on their schools and teachers. They don't leave b/c they care about the children at the other school more. There are also a BUNCH that leave the profession completely, creating a shortage of teachers. That is why you won't see anybody trying to weed people out. If you give both the teachers and kids a school that they can take pride in, then they will strive to do better. I will tell you that the teachers that currently don't teach at PCCHS don't want to. They don't respect that school, so making it the one high school won't work. Right or wrong, that's the way it is. The majority of teachers DO care about the kids, but it takes more than caring to do a good job. They need better resources to do a good job. These teachers submit request for items only to get shot down on a consistent basis b/c "We don't have the money for that". This makes them upset b/c they feel abandoned and thus the kids suffer.

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