Parents grapple with teen daughter's heroin death

[Michelles cousin]

elphaba_ wrote:

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I believe there are some that do deserve to die (serial killers for one) but that is not the case here. Whether your cousin was right or wrong is not the issue it is how things were said. When a person reacts instead of acts upon things that they find unacceptable then they become the focus. The issue or problem gets lost in the garbage.

Very true.

[Michelles cousin]

NYC wrote:

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FACT - she was a user
FACT - she died because she was a user
FACT - her family watched the entire scene play out
She slipped up, please. Stop making excuses for her behavior.

No one is making excuses. I'm not saying that her death couldn't of been prevented because it could of but when someone was a good actress like she was you could not even tell. She fooled everyone and led a double life. My poor aunt and uncle are suffering for it the most of course as the parents. And I want everyone to know that what newsday wrote about my cousin did make her, my aunt and uncle look bad. The newspaper makes a lot of people look bad, a lot of stuff that was said was not true. So I understand if some of you have the wrong idea about my family and my little cousin.

[Keen Observer]

Michelles cousin wrote:

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Keen Observer when someone makes comments on this site without signing up it automatically comes up what country they are from. My guess is my aunt and cousin did not sign up or edit their information in their profiles therefore that is maybe why you thought it was the same person. Everyone is just very angry on this site..and topic for that matter so.

That is not wholly true. It is very much dependant upon their service provider. As you see AOL comes up as AOL if you are logged into their server but other ISPs do not work the same way. Mine does not come up as my country but where my ISP is located.
It doesn't matter as much where you are but who you have.

This is a hot button topic. It does no good to anyone - the family, friends or the deceased to jump into the anger and disfunction with both feet. While you may not like what is written - you know how you viewed what was written do you not think that others reading will also know the difference?

Isn't everyone involved in this going through enough anger and pain? Step away from this - make a memorial site on a blog site dedicated to the person. This way you or your family can control what is said or posted. This place is not that type of place.

[Michelles cousin]

Gal from Shirley NY wrote:

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Can we just agree that heroin is a killer? That should be the clear message here. It kills people.

I agree as well.

[Michelles cousin]

NYC wrote:

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Yawn. I speak the truth
Your pay back for denail and complacency is a dead family member.:-)

Sorry to say, but you are speaking nonsense. Why are you rubbing our dead family member in our faces? Do you get some kind of sick pleasure out of that? And you think our family is abnormal? Yet you continue by rubbing someones death in our faces...hmm interesting.

[Michelles cousin]

Keen Observer wrote:

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That is not wholly true. It is very much dependant upon their service provider. As you see AOL comes up as AOL if you are logged into their server but other ISPs do not work the same way. Mine does not come up as my country but where my ISP is located.
It doesn't matter as much where you are but who you have.
This is a hot button topic. It does no good to anyone - the family, friends or the deceased to jump into the anger and disfunction with both feet. While you may not like what is written - you know how you viewed what was written do you not think that others reading will also know the difference?
Isn't everyone involved in this going through enough anger and pain? Step away from this - make a memorial site on a blog site dedicated to the person. This way you or your family can control what is said or posted. This place is not that type of place.

What do you mean how I viewed what was written? Little confused. Anyways whatever my aunt was saying on here was to protect my cousin, and whatever my cousin was saying was obviously just by reaction and being angry. We do have a memorial site for Michelle but I still would like to know people's thoughts on her, I can handle it even if it's arguments.

[NYC]

NO I am smarter wrote:

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and by the way who is "they?" we are talking about YOU dying...and your from oakdale...::tisk tisk:: explains why you are the way you are.

A smart person would know what an IP address is

tsk tsk, back to Tech 101 for you moron

[NYC]

Michelles cousin wrote:

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Sorry to say, but you are speaking nonsense. Why are you rubbing our dead family member in our faces? Do you get some kind of sick pleasure out of that? And you think our family is abnormal? Yet you continue by rubbing someones death in our faces...hmm interesting.

Why are you all here making excuses for you poor behavior?

Why the excuses that never end? Guilt you didn't do anything?

I'm here to stop your lies.

[Michelles cousin]

Who is making excuses? Why don't you find something else to do with your time. I don't know who you think you are but you need to take a look in the mirror sweetheart. You must be really bored that you get amusement out of things like this, REAL bored. You shouldn't be so concerned with something that has nothing to do with you, but go ahead & stick around it's just going to be arguments back and fourth which is fine with me.

[Michelles cousin]

NYC wrote:

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Why are you all here making excuses for you poor behavior?
Why the excuses that never end? Guilt you didn't do anything?
I'm here to stop your lies.

I also would like to add, how are you going to supposedly stop our quote on quote lies if you do not even know how to spell? Denial..is spelled like that, not "denail" and use your grammar correctly, "Why are you all here making excuses for you poor behavior?" its not "you" poor behavior, it's YOUR. "Why the excuses that never end? Guilt you didn't do anything?" it's not guilt, it's called "guilty" take some English courses and learn the language.

[NYC]

Michelles cousin wrote:

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I also would like to add, how are you going to supposedly stop our quote on quote lies if you do not even know how to spell? Denial..is spelled like that, not "denail" and use your grammar correctly, "Why are you all here making excuses for you poor behavior?" its not "you" poor behavior, it's YOUR. "Why the excuses that never end? Guilt you didn't do anything?" it's not guilt, it's called "guilty" take some English courses and learn the language.

No, guilt is correct hobag.

Still laughing over the myspace memorial, what a collection of trash.

[NYC]

Michelles cousin wrote:

Who is making excuses? Why don't you find something else to do with your time. I don't know who you think you are but you need to take a look in the mirror sweetheart. You must be really bored that you get amusement out of things like this, REAL bored. You shouldn't be so concerned with something that has nothing to do with you, but go ahead & stick around it's just going to be arguments back and fourth which is fine with me.

All of you are doing your best to cover her actions. Sorry but good people don't die on a strangers sofa of an od.

Good people don't f*ck folks twice their age for free smack.

Public board beyotch, face it we all have a right to be here. Go play on the myspace memorial lol

[Bad]

NYC wrote:

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All of you are doing your best to cover her actions. Sorry but good people don't die on a strangers sofa of an od.
Good people don't f*ck folks twice their age for free smack.
Public board ****, face it we all have a right to be here. Go play on the myspace memorial lol

Do you have a brain?? she did not die on a friends couch,another idiot who cannot read,you are mixing her up with natalie,who died 3 weeks later,she is the one that died on a couch during a party,not michelle

[Michelles cousin]

NYC wrote:

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No, guilt is correct hobag.
Still laughing over the myspace memorial, what a collection of trash.

Hobag? LOL people like you make me laugh..what are you a little girl? Anyways it is "guilty" how old are you like 15 or something? She DOES NOT have a MYSPACE MEMORIAL..wow you're pretty dumb. Her name was Michelle not Natalie. Natalie Ciappa was the girl that died from Seaford on a couch..where her parents found her in someones garage. Get your stories straight.

[Michelles cousin]

NYC wrote:

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All of you are doing your best to cover her actions. Sorry but good people don't die on a strangers sofa of an od.
Good people don't f*ck folks twice their age for free smack.
Public board beyotch, face it we all have a right to be here. Go play on the myspace memorial lol

Who screwed who for free smack? Where do you come up with this crap? Are you making up as you go along and pulling it out of your rear-end? She didn't OD on someone's couch either. Go play with yourself you obnoxious loser. You are the definition of Trash..like I said go learn some English, this is AMERICA.

[someone who cares]

Gal from Shirley NY wrote:

Let God have mercy on the sorry souls who post evil messages on this board in the past and future. Amen.

Amen!

[kittywaymo]

Keen Observer wrote:

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You need better reading comprehension - it was not stated that a family "DOES NOT" have but that if they did many families are more proactive. This is especially so with a teen because until they are out on their own they are the parents responsibility.
Do you kiss your GYN hubby with that mouth or do all Mormons curse like truck drivers?

WTH (whattheheck?) i didn't right that you alcoholic, i know who you are keen observer, please join AA, do the world and your fam/kids a favor.. they need a sober mamma..or I'll send CPS to your door with what I found when I investigated you.. yeah, i'm the journalist idiot..

michelles journalist aunt

[kittywaymo]

ok i know its "write" but you are still a boozer and looser and unfit mama keen.. yeah.. you're keen allright, keen of your local bar down the street apparently... get back on the wagon, sweetheart..

[kittywaymo]

Your just jealous because I'm in MENSA married to a hottie ObGyn who is filthy rich and who I love.. and you my dear can't do anything but drown your miserable life with alcohol.. your family told me you are CRAZY and apologized for your behavior last year.. you also should go to rehab with Amy Whinehouse (she likes wine and cocaine also, maybe you both can become good friends!)(this is for "keen"

[Keen Observer]

kittywaymo wrote:

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WTH (whattheheck?) i didn't right that you alcoholic, i know who you are keen observer, please join AA, do the world and your fam/kids a favor.. they need a sober mamma..or I'll send CPS to your door with what I found when I investigated you.. yeah, i'm the journalist idiot..
michelles journalist aunt

Aside from the fact that you do not know where I live, sending CPS to my home would be a waste of time since I do not have children. I do not drink either so there go those two theories out the door. So no you do not know who I am... next....

kittywaymo wrote:

ok i know its "write" but you are still a boozer and looser and unfit mama keen.. yeah.. you're keen allright, keen of your local bar down the street apparently... get back on the wagon, sweetheart..

Still wrong - not the Mama and don't drink. Still on the wrong track. Fortunately my life has never been out of control but you know all about your life being out of control don't you.... next....

kittywaymo wrote:

Your just jealous because I'm in MENSA married to a hottie ObGyn who is filthy rich and who I love.. and you my dear can't do anything but drown your miserable life with alcohol.. your family told me you are CRAZY and apologized for your behavior last year.. you also should go to rehab with Amy Whinehouse (she likes wine and cocaine also, maybe you both can become good friends!)(this is for "keen"

Three strikes and you are out. How can I be jealous of you when I am also a member of Mensa and probably have been way longer than you. Since you are the journalist you will know that I can look that up.

I'm sorry you had to marry a filthy rich man for his money. I have my own and didn't have to do that... I married for Love...

Actually I know way more about you than you know about me. You do not know my family, my friends or me and never will. I am not as naive as you as to put my real name or nickname online for everyone to Google. As for me drinking and drugging - not a chance. That stuff is pure poison just like your posts here. If you thought you were going to scare me off with petty insults and character assasination - think again.

What you have are straw arguments plain and simple.