Teenage cult in Bainbridge GA?
First Prev
of 2
Next Last
urDOODZaredied

Tallahassee, FL

#22 Jan 4, 2012
""I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.."

Hitler, from Mein Kampf

Those are words coming from his own mouth as well. Everything else you stated in regards to Hitler is irrelevant.

Now, on to the rest of your illogical, yet quite intellectually sounding, prose. You see, simply because you appear to be educated in the topic at hand, your underlying premise is faulty. Ultimately, you assume that without religion we can have no order. That is false and thankfully so. I am for one glad that it does NOT take religious ideas to be held to allow order in ones way of being.

You come across now as if you are not religious, by stating "Likewise you assume that I am following the doctrine of an opposing plurality (religious group)-.." , yet in your previous comment you stated " Do you think order can be maintained WITHOUT PERSONAL MORAL OBLIGATION?" preceded by, "Say what you want about the religious beliefs themselves, but they have been the sole source of structure and extra-individualistic moral codes."

Confused? Or just enjoying playing on both sides of the street? The reason I say this is because you are building your strawman argument around the premise that without religion their could not be PERSONAL MORAL OBLIGATION.

As I stated before, you have brought too many points in one comment (red herrings really do taste like chicken, you know) to be addressed properly. Well, let me clarify, I am not going to address them all in this forum as I do not feel the need nor desire to expound on every single point. Your original argument, which is that it takes religion to provide us with our morals (basic summary of your argument), is flawed from its premise and everything built upon it is tainted from said flaw.
urDOODZaredied

Tallahassee, FL

#23 Jan 4, 2012
Also,

From your comment, you stated "And whoa whoa, wouldn't that imply that there was such a thing as actions that are intrinsically good?"

No, their exists nothing that is intrinsically "good" nor bad. We have decided AS A SOCIETY what WE deem good, which varies among all of the differing societies and even within differing pockets of those societies. I personally do not want people stealing from me, so I do not steal from others and I feel that is a GOOD thing to do. Evolution is an awesome reality isn't it.
urDOODZaredied

Tallahassee, FL

#24 Jan 4, 2012
I wish there was an edit button.

Anyways, I forgot to add, Hitlers Table Talks were not written by Hitler. They we written by others who were taking notes of his words. There are even debates over translations and authenticity of the documents.

Mein Kompf was penned by Hitler himself.

it happens

United States

#25 Jan 4, 2012
urDOODZaredied wrote:
I wish there was an edit button.
Anyways, I forgot to add, Hitlers Table Talks were not written by Hitler. They we written by others who were taking notes of his words. There are even debates over translations and authenticity of the documents.
Mein Kompf was penned by Hitler himself.
Why do you have such obvious contempt for christians? You spew relentlessly. Are you trying to convince yourself or the world that God does not exist? What would you have to argue about if the whole world decided to bow to your ideas/ideals? Why does it bother you that people in this community believe in a supreme being? And please don't give that same tired reason you always give, that christians have been mean to you. I see YOU on the attack more oft than not. If you truly believe the way you say you do why not let it go already and just live your life?
Big Dan Teague

Albany, GA

#26 Jan 4, 2012
urDOODZaredied wrote:
I wish there was an edit button.
Anyways, I forgot to add, Hitlers Table Talks were not written by Hitler. They we written by others who were taking notes of his words. There are even debates over translations and authenticity of the documents.
Mein Kompf was penned by Hitler himself.
TRW is alive and well in 2012. SAME OLD SHIT!
urDOODZaredied

Tallahassee, FL

#27 Jan 4, 2012
it happens wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you have such obvious contempt for christians? You spew relentlessly. Are you trying to convince yourself or the world that God does not exist? What would you have to argue about if the whole world decided to bow to your ideas/ideals? Why does it bother you that people in this community believe in a supreme being? And please don't give that same tired reason you always give, that christians have been mean to you. I see YOU on the attack more oft than not. If you truly believe the way you say you do why not let it go already and just live your life?
I do not hold contempt towards christians. I hold contempt towards ANYONE who uses personal ideas (especially faith based ideas) as a justification for hatred. I do not need to convince myself that a god does not exist, the evidence does a great job on its own merit. As for caring if people believe in a supreme being, I could care less. However, the majority of people who do believe in a supreme being thinks that they can use that belief to effect the lives of others, which I will not, nor ever, stand for.

You see me on the attack more oft than not? I think not. I do however stand up and address peoples illogical justification (often times religion) for putting others down or just plain being hateful.

Why not let it go? Well, if people like me do not stand up against others that use illogical reasoning for showing hatred towards others, then those hateful (often religious) people will continue to keep sticking their noses into other peoples business and overall just continue being stupid.

If you know who I am (since you said you see me attack others)why sit idly by and not address me? Why must you hide behind a fake moniker on an anonymous forum such as Topix? Ever tried having an actual rational conversation with someone or do you always take potshots at others you do not agree with from the protection of anonymity?
urDOODZaredied

Tallahassee, FL

#28 Jan 4, 2012
Big Dan Teague wrote:
<quoted text>
TRW is alive and well in 2012. SAME OLD SHIT!
Still thinking everyone that goes against the normal inbred mentality on this board is TRW I see. You people are so simple-minded.
damn

United States

#29 Jan 5, 2012
God there's only one person that has ever bored us to death with your relentless bull crap! I'm so glad I'm not a student and have to go and sit in your class room at the college and listen to you spew every day! Its really not hard to tell its you because of your academic style and your deep hate for god! I would like to be there the day you finally do see the light my friend! Face it man you are just plain scared of god and don't have the guts to get on your knees and admit that your wrong and your life is nothing without him! You could do big things with what you have if you would just turn that negativity into positive action toward god and just let him use you! Its really not that hard its just sad that a man with your intelligence is living a life so misguided and lonely filled with that much hate! When is the last time you felt some love man!
Big Dan Teague

Albany, GA

#30 Jan 5, 2012
urDOODZaredied wrote:
<quoted text>
Still thinking everyone that goes against the normal inbred mentality on this board is TRW I see. You people are so simple-minded.
Bullseye!!
allURbase

Sugar Grove, IL

#31 Jan 5, 2012
urDOODZaredied wrote:
""I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.."
Hitler, from Mein Kampf
Those are words coming from his own mouth as well. Everything else you stated in regards to Hitler is irrelevant.
Now, on to the rest of your illogical, yet quite intellectually sounding, prose. You see, simply because you appear to be educated in the topic at hand, your underlying premise is faulty. Ultimately, you assume that without religion we can have no order. That is false and thankfully so. I am for one glad that it does NOT take religious ideas to be held to allow order in ones way of being.
You come across now as if you are not religious, by stating "Likewise you assume that I am following the doctrine of an opposing plurality (religious group)-.." , yet in your previous comment you stated " Do you think order can be maintained WITHOUT PERSONAL MORAL OBLIGATION?" preceded by, "Say what you want about the religious beliefs themselves, but they have been the sole source of structure and extra-individualistic moral codes."
Confused? Or just enjoying playing on both sides of the street? The reason I say this is because you are building your strawman argument around the premise that without religion their could not be PERSONAL MORAL OBLIGATION.
As I stated before, you have brought too many points in one comment (red herrings really do taste like chicken, you know) to be addressed properly. Well, let me clarify, I am not going to address them all in this forum as I do not feel the need nor desire to expound on every single point. Your original argument, which is that it takes religion to provide us with our morals (basic summary of your argument), is flawed from its premise and everything built upon it is tainted from said flaw.
And Mein Kampf Was a piece of political propaganda that was meant to appeal to the mass of the German population, hence the rather ambiguous reference to a Christian God, and notice he says he is in accordance and not motivated by, never the less, since we have had so much confusion over him why don't we let him go while we have bigger fish to fry, Mao Zedong and Joseph Stalin? I believe the two characters combined make Hitler's death toll look like small potatoes. Would you like to argue their religious motives? In fact it appears that you are writing from the Stalin handbook in regards to religion? I wonder how many Stalin had killed using the very same argument (except his would have been much more well expressed, sadly)? Are you also going to start repeating the part where you starve and murder 60 million people? Your original statement was that religion accounts for all of the conflict and chaos in the world right? so seemingly I would only have to find one example of someone completely unmotivated by religion; I'll do even better, I will give you the two most evil individuals in the past one hundred years, if not in all of history (by virtue of death tolls). Doesn't that inexplicably prove that religion is not the cause of all chaos?

Also your so called evidence that I am speaking from the side of the religious right is weak and nigh non-existant compared to the evidence you left in your posting. You are struggling to make that point and I think it is obvious.

Also, I asked you a question and I will assume you forgot to answer it directly, It was my argument boiled down to one question and I am asking you to respond to it, so I will ask it again
-If you assume that all human decisions are based on incentives or a risk-reward dynamic (an idea that a bulk of the sociological community agrees upon), then how can an Atheistic system of morality which is admittedly and by nature subjective, create any incentive (other than punishment) for people to follow the established law?
allURbase

Sugar Grove, IL

#32 Jan 5, 2012
urDOODZaredied wrote:
""I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.."
Hitler, from Mein Kampf
Those are words coming from his own mouth as well. Everything else you stated in regards to Hitler is irrelevant.
Now, on to the rest of your illogical, yet quite intellectually sounding, prose. You see, simply because you appear to be educated in the topic at hand, your underlying premise is faulty. Ultimately, you assume that without religion we can have no order. That is false and thankfully so. I am for one glad that it does NOT take religious ideas to be held to allow order in ones way of being.
You come across now as if you are not religious, by stating "Likewise you assume that I am following the doctrine of an opposing plurality (religious group)-.." , yet in your previous comment you stated " Do you think order can be maintained WITHOUT PERSONAL MORAL OBLIGATION?" preceded by, "Say what you want about the religious beliefs themselves, but they have been the sole source of structure and extra-individualistic moral codes."
Confused? Or just enjoying playing on both sides of the street? The reason I say this is because you are building your strawman argument around the premise that without religion their could not be PERSONAL MORAL OBLIGATION.
As I stated before, you have brought too many points in one comment (red herrings really do taste like chicken, you know) to be addressed properly. Well, let me clarify, I am not going to address them all in this forum as I do not feel the need nor desire to expound on every single point. Your original argument, which is that it takes religion to provide us with our morals (basic summary of your argument), is flawed from its premise and everything built upon it is tainted from said flaw.
Mein Kampf Was a piece of political propaganda that was meant to appeal to the mass of the German population, hence the rather ambiguous reference to a Christian God, and notice he says he is in accordance and not motivated by, never the less, since we have had so much confusion over him why don't we let him go while we have bigger fish to fry, Mao Zedong and Joseph Stalin? I believe the two characters combined make Hitler's death toll look like small potatoes. Would you like to argue their religious motives? In fact it appears that you are writing from the Stalin handbook in regards to religion? I wonder how many Stalin had killed using the very same argument (except his would have been much more well expressed, sadly)? Are you also going to start repeating the part where you starve and murder 60 million people? Your original statement was that religion accounts for all of the conflict and chaos in the world right? so seemingly I would only have to find one example of someone completely unmotivated by religion; I'll do even better, I will give you the two most evil individuals in the past one hundred years, if not in all of history (by virtue of death tolls). Doesn't that inexplicably prove that religion is not the cause of all chaos?

Also your so called evidence that I am speaking from the side of the religious right is weak and nigh non-existant compared to the evidence you left in your posting. You are struggling to make that point and I think it is obvious.

Also, I asked you a question and I will assume you forgot to answer it directly, It was my argument boiled down to one question and I am asking you to respond to it, so I will ask it again
-If you assume that all human decisions are based on incentives or a risk-reward dynamic (an idea that a bulk of the sociological community agrees upon), then how can an Atheistic system of morality which is admittedly and by nature subjective, create any incentive (other than punishment) for people to follow the established law?
allURbase

Sugar Grove, IL

#33 Jan 5, 2012
urDOODZaredied wrote:
Also,
From your comment, you stated "And whoa whoa, wouldn't that imply that there was such a thing as actions that are intrinsically good?"
No, their exists nothing that is intrinsically "good" nor bad. We have decided AS A SOCIETY what WE deem good, which varies among all of the differing societies and even within differing pockets of those societies. I personally do not want people stealing from me, so I do not steal from others and I feel that is a GOOD thing to do. Evolution is an awesome reality isn't it.
You have made a break through my friend, we have decided as a society what we deem good which varies among societies- THIS EXPLAINS CONFLICT THIS EXPLAINS DISAGREEMENT AND ANIMOSITY.

Who decides what is good? Does everyone have an equal say? Oh if only our legislative and judicial system was transparent and perfectly efficient.

So you basically just said that the only reason you obey the law is because you don't want people doing it to you and you think its the right thing to do? While that is commendable, unfortunately myself and most of the sociological community will admit that you are in the minority. What if someone believes it is ok to steal if they need what you have? What if they deem it to be justified (since you so clearly admitted that other people have different moral codes)? What if someone killed you and robbed you for the money in your wallet, because they thought they needed to? Could you argue with them? To think that people will just naturally obey the golden rule is so naive and unrealistic that I am beginning to think you are trolling.

Again, you didn't answer my question- you seem to have tried to but it was a sad attempt-
-If you assume that all human decisions are based on incentives or a risk-reward dynamic (an idea that a bulk of the sociological community agrees upon), then how can an Atheistic system of morality which is admittedly and by nature subjective, create any incentive (other than punishment) for people to follow the established law?
urDOODZaredied

Tallahassee, FL

#34 Jan 5, 2012
"If you assume that all human decisions are based on incentives or a risk-reward dynamic (an idea that a bulk of the sociological community agrees upon), then how can an Atheistic system of morality which is admittedly and by nature subjective, create any incentive (other than punishment) for people to follow the established law? "

First off, it is not an assumption. We do base all of our decisions on risk-rewards.Your argument, which you have derailed more than amtrak, was that morals can only come from religion. Which is incorrect. My argument, which is that religion has caused more conflict and death than it has helped, is correct. No matter how you try to spin it, your apologetics will not change that fact.

While your debate skills are to be commended, your logic is laughable at best.
BornAgainAtheist

Albany, GA

#35 Jan 5, 2012
Big Dan Teague wrote:
<quoted text>
Bullseye!!
I, for one, am SO UNIMAGINABLY SICK AND TIRED of, every time a discussion like this comes up, the Atheist side of the table is accused of being "TRW". I AM NOT TRW, but I have been accused of it SO many times in OTHER discussions. It is MADDENING! The world EXISTS BEYOND the confines of a small, backward little hole like Bainbridge, GA, and the surrounding area, and thus, even though this Southern-Bible-Belt-Reject of a "community" is HEAVILY WEIGHTED on the side of Christians, I ASSURE YOU, "TRW" is NOT the ONLY Atheist or free-thinking person in the community. OPEN YOUR MIND and have a DISCUSSION. "allURBase", in spite of being (apparently) a Christian, is having a LOGICAL and CIVIL DISCUSSION. Just because an argument is presented from the Atheists' side of the table in a given forum, DOES NOT MEAN it could only be ONE person...

"You peoples'" MINDS are going to be BLOWN when my financial status gets to the point where I can retire, and thus "COME OUT" with my atheism. Right now I work and move around in community circles that have me directly interacting with Christians EVERY DAY. I am SO intertwined with the Christian community, that my VERY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON GETTING ALONG WITH THEM PEACEFULLY....So...When I am financially stable enough for my retirement, JAWS ARE GOING TO DROP when I finally "come out" and people learn that I have been freely moving about in the Christian community, and IN THE LOCAL CHURCH ITSELF.

I AM NOT TRW, and while he may or may not be in this forum discussion, I assure you, HE IS NOT THE ONLY ATHEIST ON PLANET EARTH!!! GET OVER IT and MOVE ON! Have a reasonable discussion, or DISAPPEAR! OUR NUMBERS ARE INCREASING, and as people learn to THINK FOR THEMSELVES, YOUR NUMBERS ARE DECREASING!!!
getgovtoutofedju cation

United States

#36 Jan 5, 2012
Prime example of what separation of church and state and getting away from our core values that this country was founded on has bred! A bunch of intellectual misguided misfits called atheist that remind me of a mentally ill person! Manic depressive you just argue but you don't know why your just frustrated cause you just got to be right! You can't understand why everyone else doesn't see things like you1 your like a gay person! Just screwed up in the head! You have too much knowledge. Not enough faith! There's a thing called balance in ones life and that is the key to happiness! Too much of anything will bring you misery! Old Chinese Proverb!
urDOODZaredied

Tallahassee, FL

#37 Jan 5, 2012
getgovtoutofedjucation wrote:
Prime example of what separation of church and state and getting away from our core values that this country was founded on has bred! A bunch of intellectual misguided misfits called atheist that remind me of a mentally ill person! Manic depressive you just argue but you don't know why your just frustrated cause you just got to be right! You can't understand why everyone else doesn't see things like you1 your like a gay person! Just screwed up in the head! You have too much knowledge. Not enough faith! There's a thing called balance in ones life and that is the key to happiness! Too much of anything will bring you misery! Old Chinese Proverb!
So, lets check the hatred meter of your post.

Atheist = mental illness. Check
Atheist = misguided misfit. Check
Atheist = Miserable. Check
Homosexuality = mental illness, misguided, and miserable. Check

You are so far off base from reality it is uncanny. You hide behind religion to justify calling people different from YOU mentally ill misguided miserable misfits. And you honestly think YOU are normal? Wow.

Atheists do not argue for the fun of it. I personally argue against illogical worldviews because they are a danger to society. You act as if this country was founded on christian principles or something, which if you knew ANYTHING about the history of this nation you would see how incorrect you really are.

It is people like you who, who fit the mold of the stereotypical hate filled religious fanatic, who causes people like me to continue to HAVE to fight out against you. Good thing your type is dying off.
sparky

Albany, GA

#38 Jan 5, 2012
The fact that you have to "wait" until you retire to show your face is hyprocritical. If you truly take a stand, you take a stand.

Not that I care, but just wanted to state my thought.
BornAgainAtheist

Albany, GA

#39 Jan 5, 2012
sparky wrote:
The fact that you have to "wait" until you retire to show your face is hyprocritical. If you truly take a stand, you take a stand.
Not that I care, but just wanted to state my thought.
NOT the most intelligent opinion! It is not AT ALL hypocritical (that is the correct spelling, incidental). It's called KEEPING MY JOB, and KEEPING MY INCOME SO THAT I CAN SUPPORT MY FAMILY. You do not know the line of work I am in, but suffice it to say, that if I "came out" as an atheist right now, I would be IMMEDIATELY UNEMPLOYED, and frankly, I like having food on my table, and in the mouths of my wife and children, and and a roof over our heads. I am NOT here to debate who we are as people. I am here to INTELLIGENTLY DISCUSS the two sides of the table, religion and non-religion, not get involved with yet another idiotic bashing war. I am here for intelligent discourse and intellectual stimulation, in an anonymous forum, because it is LITERALLY PHYSICALLY DANGEROUS to do so in the real world.
Fred Newsome

Leesburg, GA

#40 May 26, 2013
TheSheep wrote:
Has anybody heard talk of the cult started by a group of teenagers in Bainbridge? I've personally heard that Pastor Poppell had to go out there and break it up...
Has anyone else heard about this?
why would you break up someone else belief activities?
Gary Adams

Fayetteville, GA

#41 May 28, 2013
I don't believe in any established religion or cult. I believe when you die you just die. Even so, you don't see me running around acting like an idiot, trash talking people, and committing crimes. So a code of ethics and morals can exist without religion. That being said, the church does do alot for the community and I think Christians or any religious group should be able to worship as they please as long as it doesn't involve physical or emotional damage to people.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker
First Prev
of 2
Next Last

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Bainbridge Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News Why I still love this community 3 hr Will Dockery 42
Is Columbus a good place to live? (Sep '08) 4 hr Will Dockery 3,233
Poll Is the Columbus music scene legitimate (Jul '12) 4 hr Will Dockery 3,042
Mayors tattoos (May '16) 5 hr George John 13
meth in bainbridge (Mar '13) 14 hr Task force 43
Disability Fraud 9th time removed Mon Someone 10
Any one know Chasity Johnson? Mon Not Chasity 7

Bainbridge Jobs

More from around the web

Personal Finance

Bainbridge Mortgages