Teenage cult in Bainbridge GA?

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TheSheep

Bainbridge, GA

#1 Dec 11, 2011
Has anybody heard talk of the cult started by a group of teenagers in Bainbridge? I've personally heard that Pastor Poppell had to go out there and break it up...
Has anyone else heard about this?
Crapola

Bainbridge, GA

#3 Dec 11, 2011
Peter Popoff came to Bainbridge???
wondering

Albany, GA

#4 Dec 12, 2011
TheSheep wrote:
Has anybody heard talk of the cult started by a group of teenagers in Bainbridge? I've personally heard that Pastor Poppell had to go out there and break it up...
Has anyone else heard about this?
are you referring to what they call the "god fires"? Not a cult is it?
anonymous

Iron City, GA

#5 Dec 12, 2011
wondering wrote:
<quoted text> are you referring to what they call the "god fires"? Not a cult is it?
It is definitely not a cult. These teenagers are out there worshipping God, starting a revolution, and are TRUELY on fire for God.
Homer Stokes

Coolidge, GA

#6 Dec 13, 2011
anonymous wrote:
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It is definitely not a cult. These teenagers are out there worshipping God, starting a revolution, and are TRUELY on fire for God.
Where have we heard that before? Oh that's right, Charles Manson, Jim Jones and David Koresh. Don't drink the Kool Aid! Just sayin!
In the know

Colquitt, GA

#7 Dec 13, 2011
Homer Stokes wrote:
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Where have we heard that before? Oh that's right, Charles Manson, Jim Jones and David Koresh. Don't drink the Kool Aid! Just sayin!
Hey, your right. Wanta see some CRAZY stuff, Go to utube and look up "Jesus Camp".

Since: Dec 11

Griffin, GA

#8 Dec 13, 2011
A relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister. This is the def of cult. Call us what you want but we are the church. In 1 corintgians it says we are the body. The church is not the building. Its the people in the pulpit and sitting in the pews. I've got a better thing than watching youtube videos, why don't y'all stop listening to what you hear and come to the fires. Its not just teens either. What's really ironic is it says that all these things are gonna happen in the bible. Us followers of christ are to be ridiculed by the gentiles. Well that's fine because I know that our God is smiling in heaven and we will be rewarded 100 times more in heaven. Continue to entertain by posting your false and foolish comments please and thank you! God Bless! Im sorry some people finally took a stand. Continue what your doing teens. God loves y'all.:)
What

Bainbridge, GA

#9 Dec 13, 2011
If the rest of us are gentiles, and you guys arenīt, does that mean you are saying you are a Jew? Are these Kosher fires or what? Or are you trying to make some weak argument for "neither Jew nor Gentile new man in Christ" deal? If this is a social thingy, where is it. I can bring coat hangers and hotdogs if someone can bring drinks, condiments and bread. Marshmallows are good too!

Since: Dec 11

Griffin, GA

#10 Dec 14, 2011
No worries. We alreadysmores and drinks. Im not arguing for a new. Im arguing for the fires that are going on. I personally know that the fires are for the right reasons and are doing the will of thy father. I hope none of you discriminating claim to be followers of christ. We will pray for y'all at the fires if so.
What

Monticello, FL

#11 Dec 14, 2011
REMEMBER WACO.
ugh

Barnwell, SC

#12 Dec 15, 2011
Drama
WowAmazing

Albany, GA

#13 Dec 27, 2011
TheSheep wrote:
Has anybody heard talk of the cult started by a group of teenagers in Bainbridge? I've personally heard that Pastor Poppell had to go out there and break it up...
Has anyone else heard about this?
WOW! AMAZING! This is incredibly disturbing! Just what we need: More religious wacko's and fanaticism! The Twin Towers in New York, coming down, as a DIRECT RESULT of religious fundamentalism, was not enough. The wars, the tortures, the atrocities, the rape of women and children, the religion-fueled executions, the Inquisitions, the Crusades, the Tribulations, the discrimination, the abuse (not JUST rape) of women and children, the segregation of society by class and politics, and ON AND ON, ALL BECAUSE OF RELIGION - as if that ALL wasn't enough, and we STILL have more people who want to ADD TO THIS CHAOS. I REALLY HOPE the human race gets smart before it destroys itself completely, BECAUSE OF RELIGION, but I fear we will, as a race, become cavemen again, before true intelligence gains control.
allURbase

Bainbridge, GA

#14 Dec 31, 2011
WowAmazing wrote:
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WOW! AMAZING! This is incredibly disturbing! Just what we need: More religious wacko's and fanaticism! The Twin Towers in New York, coming down, as a DIRECT RESULT of religious fundamentalism, was not enough. The wars, the tortures, the atrocities, the rape of women and children, the religion-fueled executions, the Inquisitions, the Crusades, the Tribulations, the discrimination, the abuse (not JUST rape) of women and children, the segregation of society by class and politics, and ON AND ON, ALL BECAUSE OF RELIGION - as if that ALL wasn't enough, and we STILL have more people who want to ADD TO THIS CHAOS. I REALLY HOPE the human race gets smart before it destroys itself completely, BECAUSE OF RELIGION, but I fear we will, as a race, become cavemen again, before true intelligence gains control.
The human race will destroy itself by way of unbridled individualism. Say what you want about the religious beliefs themselves, but they have been the sole source of structure and extra-individualistic moral codes. You can rattle off things about the crusades or inquisitions, and I would agree that they were horrendous but it is simply unfair to place Christianity from the middle ages in the same category as modern Christianity in the 1950s-2010s. I don't think you would be able to argue that the modern christian community has any relation (socially, morphologically, politically, or culturally) or any likeness towards the institutions that you claim are responsible for all of the problems in the world. In fact it is quite the contrary, I think if one thing has been proven in the past 100 years, it is that when human beings are only responsible to themselves and no one else, most of them, are incapable of making decisions that support any type of social well-being. And while the track record of the modern christian community is far from flawless, it is clear that a community is immeasurably more healthy when it has a established and widespread moral code of conduct that provides a social incentive (besides money) for hard work, responsibility, family structure, care of others etc. This breakdown of moral structure (religion in this case) in American society is directly responsible for the loss of transparency in the American economy; and a complete disappearance of community and family. And if the far left wackos would get their noses out of the clouds to take a break from applauding themselves for these 'achievements' they might realize that they have been responsible for the extinction of fundamental aspects of American culture and exceptionalism, that have presented you with your current quality of life.
HAVING SAID THAT, many of the individuals, these days, who are the most fervent followers and defenders of christianity are those are are highly susceptible to emotional stimuli; their religious experience usually doesn't go beyond an emotional release, and for that reason their main foci tend to be on rather "surface" level moral obligations like alcohol consumption, language, sexual practice; and while these things are good concerns for a healthy community, they are insignificant when compared to moral obligations like pursuit of excellence, hard work, responsibility, and community well being, that a true religious experience is supposed to instill. Example: There is no shortage of people willing to say I'm not going to drink alcohol, but there is a shortage of people who are willing to educate themselves (religious knowledge included) and achieve a level of intellectual maturity so that they can approach life more wholesomely. I have no right to judge which of group these teens fall under, but my suspicion is the former- emotionally susceptible, emotionally charged, surface oriented, and disinterested in intellectual pursuit (in religious knowledge OR secular knowledge); they probably know how the proverbial "kool-aid" tastes.
urDOODZaredied

Tallahassee, FL

#15 Dec 31, 2011
allURbase,

Your first mistake is thinking that religion is responsible for morals. Religion causes nothing but problems by separating its followers from the society around them. Are you really gullible enough to believe that all of the religious denominations see eye to eye on everything which makes life peachy keen?

As for the last 100 years and religious belief, all I can say is look at the twin towers and also the murders of abortion doctors. Without religion these atrocities would not have happened.
allURbase

Bainbridge, GA

#16 Jan 2, 2012
urDOODZaredied wrote:
allURbase,
Your first mistake is thinking that religion is responsible for morals. Religion causes nothing but problems by separating its followers from the society around them. Are you really gullible enough to believe that all of the religious denominations see eye to eye on everything which makes life peachy keen?
As for the last 100 years and religious belief, all I can say is look at the twin towers and also the murders of abortion doctors. Without religion these atrocities would not have happened.
When I think back on the last 100 years, I notice that all of the major blights on the human race have been notably UNCONCERNED with religion. Mao, Stalin, and Hitler (while not clear Atheist) had NO religious motives. In fact I think you would have agreed with them on this very topic- congratulations you are in good company. Religion does not explain conflict in the world, differences in culture, geopolitical relationships, and ideologies explain conflicts; And if religion was removed from the equation (which would be hard to do because it is intertwined with these things) you would find that many of the major conflicts in the world would remain more or less intact. You point at the fanatics that have been created by religious institutions but you disregard the fanatics created by non-religious institutions. You also lump all religious groups together which is about the most the most absurd case of over generalization I could imagine. The modern christian organization did not endorse the bombing of abortion clinics? it is not in their doctrine? If you give them credit for it, then you should also give them credit for the immense amount of humanitarian work and funding that has literally saved millions of lives of people who are religiously distant from Christians. Christian organizations are responsible for THE LARGEST PERCENTAGE of annual American charity donations, so next time you are listing the atrocities of the modern church, don't disregard that little fact. The nature of your argument would leave me to believe that your idea of a perfect world is one in which humans are responsible to other humans instead of some authority that transcends the power of the people that abide by it (religion). An atheist believes we are nothing more than the effects of a cosmic soup of elemental forces and colliding atoms, an atheist believes that all people are nothing more than the excrement of random molecular circumstance. All the hopes, dreams, and memories of people have no more meaning than the fly that you hit on your windshield. That is perhaps a harsh way to look at the view of an Atheist, but it is not an unfair analysis. Under this view, if humans are simply the universe's science experiment, how can the moral codes we create have any meaning or authority? To me it sounds like a system that by nature, acknowledges its moral structure as subjective and meaningless, and therefore is only successful as long as the risk-reward dynamic is favorable. Does that sound like a good way to get people to act right? Do you think order can be maintained WITHOUT PERSONAL MORAL OBLIGATION? Religion makes the rule of law objective, it makes the followers personally responsible, it creates a moral obligation to do right without the help of punishment and law or incentive. Some people might be able to live life morally without such a system, but the bulk of the population would not; and I think if you were able to put aside your biased view of deities, hymns, and prayer, you would realize that religion offers a system of moral structure and responsibility that could and will never be duplicated by a secular, unreligious rule of law or government.
urDOODZaredied

Tallahassee, FL

#17 Jan 2, 2012
Your apologetics are intellectually dishonest, to say the least. There is much to address in your comment but I will just focus of a couple of major flaws in your thinking.

You make the mistake of separating religion from culture, ideologies, etc. While I agree that those things do in fact create conflict, it takes religion to add a justification (albeit misguided) into the mix. A crazy man has the idea of control over people. A religious man CLAIMS god said he has control over people (see preachers, popes, etc)

Another major flaw in your thinking is the "feelings" behind life. Life does not care if something makes you happy or sad. Your "hopes" mean nothing to whether or not life carries on. It is ONLY when people stop using their religious justifications and start thinking of the species as one cohesive unit that we can truly be at peace.

You stated in your comment the following, " Does that sound like a good way to get people to act right? Do you think order can be maintained...."

Who gives you, or any other human being the right to say that order has to be maintained? If people choose to go against the laws of the land (which are not based around religious ideas but much older ideas about government) then they must face the consequences. WE as a society decided as a whole what those laws are and what those consequences should be.

Your comment touches on too many points to fully expound upon in this forum, but the vast majority of your comment is clearly biased to what YOU and your religious ideas tell you. Religion is nothing more than a system set in place to "control" the masses, even you keyed in on that indirectly. This world does not need humans being controlled, it needs humans working together for the common good of the species.
urDOODZaredied

Tallahassee, FL

#18 Jan 2, 2012
By the way, Hitler was a Roman Catholic and very much involved with the church. His army even had "god with us" stamped on their belt buckles.

Bad people can do bad things for any reason. It takes RELIGION to make otherwise good people do bad things. The reason you do not hear as much altruism coming from the secular community as you do the religious is because we don't need to be recognized for doing what we do. We do it because its the right thing to do, not to gain brownie points with a god.
A-F-ing-Men

Albany, GA

#19 Jan 2, 2012
urDOODZaredied wrote:
By the way, Hitler was a Roman Catholic and very much involved with the church. His army even had "god with us" stamped on their belt buckles.
Bad people can do bad things for any reason. It takes RELIGION to make otherwise good people do bad things. The reason you do not hear as much altruism coming from the secular community as you do the religious is because we don't need to be recognized for doing what we do. We do it because its the right thing to do, not to gain brownie points with a god.
A...F'ing....Men!(pun intended)...I couldn't have said it better myself. Bravo!
allURbase

Bainbridge, GA

#20 Jan 4, 2012
urDOODZaredied wrote:
By the way, Hitler was a Roman Catholic and very much involved with the church. His army even had "god with us" stamped on their belt buckles.
Bad people can do bad things for any reason. It takes RELIGION to make otherwise good people do bad things. The reason you do not hear as much altruism coming from the secular community as you do the religious is because we don't need to be recognized for doing what we do. We do it because its the right thing to do, not to gain brownie points with a god.
Here is a quote from Hitler's Table Talks

"But there will never be any possibility of National Socialism's setting out to ape religion by establishing a form of worship. Its one ambition must be scientifically to construct a doctrine that is nothing more than a homage to reason." I think you will agree it is strikingly similar to you own opinion. Do not attempt to smear the truth with the fact that Hitler had Catholic tendencies. I clearly stated that Mao, Hitler, and Stalin (WHILE NOT CLEAR ATHEIST) had no political MOTIVES. Look in their doctrine and find examples of their movements being fundamentally motivated by religion- you will be looking for a long time. Did you not read the above capitalized segments, could you not comprehend them? Your selective reading and blatant disregard for the actual text that I wrote (on this particular topic) are enough to show me that your responses lack any amount of intellectual competence or honesty.(If you want a true sense of Hitler's stance on religion I recommend you read the transcripts from the table talks.)

Again you are unable to observe religion as a strictly political phenomena.
"The reason you do not hear as much altruism coming from the secular community as you do the religious is because we don't need to be recognized for doing what we do. We do it because its the right thing to do, not to gain brownie points with a god."
-Right from the start, your use of "you" and "we" implies that you are speaking from the position of a collective group, or the "secular community"- with its own opinions and biases. Likewise you assume that I am following the doctrine of an opposing plurality (religious group)- which you would find no evidence from in my posts.(other than the fat that I disagreed with you) I am simply trying to explain the effects of religion as it relates to social order and law- objectively. You have yet to embrace this type of discussion and insist on saying things like "we don't need to be recognized.. We do it because.." etc. If you were capable of having an honest discussion on this topic you would understand that I am not attempting to further the views of the religious community, but simply trying to point out the political ramifications of abandoning religious doctrine as the base of human order and law. You didn't understand that when I said it the first time, so I won't repeat it again.

-Your comment on Hitler was a good litmus test for your intellectual capacity and your argumentative tactics. My statement was perfectly in line with the reality of Hitler's religious beliefs and motivations, but you still insist on being contrary, and you showed that you could not understand the simple fact that I was not claiming they were all Atheist, I was simply claiming that they were politically unmotivated by religion- see the quote. You have taken a similar path in your response to the rest of my posts. In an attempt to consolidate my argument into one question (so as to avoid your further confusion):
-If you assume that all human decisions are based on incentives or a risk-reward dynamic (an idea that a bulk of the sociological community agrees upon), then how can an Atheistic system of morality which is admittedly and by nature subjective, create any incentive (other than punishment) for people to follow the established law?
allURbase

Bainbridge, GA

#21 Jan 4, 2012
urDOODZaredied wrote:
By the way, Hitler was a Roman Catholic and very much involved with the church. His army even had "god with us" stamped on their belt buckles.
Bad people can do bad things for any reason. It takes RELIGION to make otherwise good people do bad things. The reason you do not hear as much altruism coming from the secular community as you do the religious is because we don't need to be recognized for doing what we do. We do it because its the right thing to do, not to gain brownie points with a god.
"We do it because its the right thing to do"- And whoa whoa, wouldn't that imply that there was such a thing as actions that are intrinsically good? who said they are the right thing to do? Doesn't that imply a value-judgement of some kind? Aren't you supposed to believe that we are just the effect of random genetic mutations? If thats what you believe, then how can there be such a thing as an established "RIGHT" or "WRONG?" you are starting to sound more and more like an individual with religious tendencies. What if I said I don't believe your idea of "right" is actually right? Could you argue with me?

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