Drug testing for welfare recipients

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Bubba

United States

#1 Nov 4, 2011
I wonder what would happen if Virginia was like Florida and drug tested their welfare recipients?

I wonder how many people would lose benefits and how much money the state would save?

Thoughts?

I think it's a great idea!!!
Jolly Rancher

United States

#2 Nov 5, 2011
Good, very good.....
Paying for em

United States

#3 Nov 6, 2011
Absolutely should be mandatory. Of course I am a big fan of forced sterilization after 3 kids if your family are on there 2nd generation of making welfare a lifestyle. The programs are great for people who need them. They are and have always meant to be a temporary support, not a permanent source of income.
Jolly Rancher

United States

#4 Nov 6, 2011
Getting better........
Sue

Arlington, VA

#5 Nov 7, 2011
Today I watched a woman on an iphone call up and insist she was so poor she needed food stamps...you can afford an iphone but you can't afford food. Better yet don't make food stamps open ended...hand out beans and rice...when they can't buy there overpriced frozen pizzas and shrimp cocktails I bet the numbers will drop way down.
just an opinion

Raven, VA

#6 Nov 10, 2011
this is mainly for Payen for em?? U must be from "oldd money" round here. I have lived in ths community for 30 some odd years an would hve nver thought I would have had to ask for a little help buying food, which was all I got was 200 to feed my family be it small it bn just my chils and I.

I have a colledge education and moved here to help take care of a sick parent. How dare you sit on your pompise be-hind and act like you know about sterilization, unless you are from a third world country,,, i say you are an idiot. guess i should have been sterized right before my husband died for this country. Its idiots like you who wish I would have brought my mom home with e instead of comming back to this narrow mineded town. Peace out
just an opinion

Raven, VA

#7 Nov 10, 2011
anyway bring on the drug testing with the idiot tesing
Bubba

Tuscaloosa, AL

#8 Nov 10, 2011
If welfare benefits came with drug testing at least half would be disqualified.
donkey dealer

AOL

#10 Dec 15, 2011
just an opinion, sorry for your loss. I think it is sad we have 2nd. & 3rd. generation welfare recipients. I don't consider myself an idiot, nor am I a scholar on all matters. However, I feel like drug testing should be a pre-requisite before hand-outs are sooooo! easily given. Like others have commented, I don't feel like any normal thinking fellow human being wants someone deserving and less fortunate to go hungry, but I feel God also helps those who help themselves, but only in ways that are pleasing to him. I think since the Government wants to be involved in everyone's life, DRUG TESTING should be mandatory before any aid is given on a State or Federal level. If a person has no more respect for themselves or their loved ones who by no choice of their own also are affected. But at least for the time, we are still FREE to voice our individual opinions and feelings.
honky tonky donkey

United States

#11 Dec 28, 2011
I have asked people in social services why certain people cannot or would not lose their welfare benefits. They always say when a recipient gets on the gravy train, the only sure way that they will lose their checks is death. As far as checking for drugs, I don't think that will ever happen. Us taxpayers have a right to know if our tax dollars are being used in criminal activity. It seems that recipients always have cigarettes,tattoes, and cell phones.
Current Resident

Haysi, VA

#12 Dec 28, 2011
Sue wrote:
Today I watched a woman on an iphone call up and insist she was so poor she needed food stamps...you can afford an iphone but you can't afford food. Better yet don't make food stamps open ended...hand out beans and rice...when they can't buy there overpriced frozen pizzas and shrimp cocktails I bet the numbers will drop way down.
No you didn't.I understand where you are coming from and I agree,but that simply didn't happen.Too convenient for that to happen the same day as this post.

Anyway.....test them users every month,I would just as soon pay for that as pay to buy their drugs.
yes

San Jose, CA

#13 Apr 7, 2012
Best thing they ever did!!
Tired

United States

#14 Apr 26, 2012
If we, as tax payers, are giving money to welfare recipients, they should not be able to use nonprescribed drugs. It's as simple as that.

The only people that will argue with this are the recipients who use the drugs and the people who sell them to them.

I feel this should also go for unemployment benefits. Besides, if you are looking for a job, you shouldn't be using drugs, right?

The expense of the testing would definitely be offset by the money saved when benefits are lost by the users.
Daniel

Hendersonville, TN

#15 Apr 28, 2012
why should we put down the poor when we should be helping. people that have money use drugs all the time. Jesus loves all people we need to pray for them.

“Memento mori”

Since: Jun 11

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#16 Apr 29, 2012
Here's the problem with drug-testing welfare recipients:

It's a huge waste of money. That on top of welfare would be even worse. Several people seem to think that money is being wasted on people who don't deserve it and that the solution is to waste more money.

People think that a lot of them would lose welfare because they're on illegal drugs. They seem to believe that since there are a few people here and there that abuse the welfare system, it must mean a majority of them do.

The places that have put this into effect find that roughly 2% of welfare recipients are using drugs.

So this accomplishes 3 things:
1. Wastes resources.
2. Wastes money.
3. Punishes poor people.

People shouldn't abuse the system, but if we go out of our way to get the handful that do, we end up creating more of a mess.

I agree with Daniel. We need to show more compassion for the poor. Welfare serves as a safety net. If we tamper with that safety net, then those people will hit the ground hard and it'll be even more difficult to help them.
Just sain

Jonesville, VA

#17 May 26, 2012
Well I know of one that finally got the majority of their welfare cut out,unemployment finally ran out and in a matter of weeks they had a job,of course it was at a place where there is no drug testing.
gogo

Cumming, GA

#18 Jun 28, 2012
I believe that any person on welfare should be drug tested and if their tested positive they should have every benefit taken away along with their children. we need to protect our children more. Everyone makes mistakes but these girls out having all these chidren and letting the state take care of them is b----s---. all this is my opion which I have a right to I go to work every day and take care of my family!
Joke

Jonesville, VA

#19 Jun 29, 2012
Tired wrote:
If we, as tax payers, are giving money to welfare recipients, they should not be able to use nonprescribed drugs. It's as simple as that.
The only people that will argue with this are the recipients who use the drugs and the people who sell them to them.
I feel this should also go for unemployment benefits. Besides, if you are looking for a job, you shouldn't be using drugs, right?
The expense of the testing would definitely be offset by the money saved when benefits are lost by the users.
I agree it should go for unemployment benefits as well!! People milk that as far as they can all the while turning in and acting as if they are looking for employment. I know of a one certain person who drew benefits for two months while working a full time job and never reported because no one knew this person was drawing unemployment. This person would not attempt to look for work and milked it dry and every dime from that unemployment was spent on drugs weekly. However he did get caught for defrauding unemployment from two years ago and was forced to pay that back or jail time. Not sure if he has gotten caught on the last years defrauding or not?
gogo

United States

#20 Jun 29, 2012
HAVE YOU SEEN SO MANY PEOPLE BEING CONFICTED OF FOODSTAMP FORGERY AND TURNING IN FOR BABYSITTING AND WELFARE PAYING THEM WHEN THEIR NOT WORKING OR BABYSITTING THESE PEOPLE HAVE ALOT OF NERVE AND ARE TRASH (SORRY TRASH) How do so many get by with it?
Melvin Hicks

Roanoke, VA

#21 Jul 2, 2012
You people are so mind-controlled and angry that you are kicking the very lowest members of society while the real parasites, the ruling class of billionaires who RUN this and every other country laugh at your stupidity while you attack the poor.

It is like starving kids fighting over a loaf of bread. WHAT do drugs have to do with not having food? Yeah...blah,blah, I know your arguments...asinine.
Besides, the food stamp program is NOT for the poor. It is for the FOOD INDUSTRY.Do you really think anyone gives a flick about the poor? They don't vote and they sure as hell don't contribute to campaigns.

My dear idiots, recognize WHO the enemy is before you cut him down. If you lose your savings, your job, IF the economy worsens (which it has to) then YOU may be applying for food stamps.

And to the moron who mentioned sterilization. Go to China where your eugenic ideas are welcome. Or to Washington. I hate to tell you that YOU are being slowly killed by your own government, by design.

Enjoy your ignorance and the bliss that accompanies narcissistic righteousness.

MEL

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