Questions raised about Azusa mining referendum's impact

There are 20 comments on the Aug 5, 2010, San Gabriel Valley Tribune story titled Questions raised about Azusa mining referendum's impact. In it, San Gabriel Valley Tribune reports that:

City officials and a community advocacy group disagree on whether a referendum would stop a new mining plan at the Azusa Rock Quarry or merely stop the money gained from it.

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Voice in the Wilderness

Burbank, CA

#1 Aug 5, 2010
"Not so fast, said Delach. The intent of Azusa's language was for City Council approval alone, he said, and since the council already gave its approval, that language no longer applies."

City of Azusa officials and City Attorney like to play fast and loose with language to their own advantage. There's a lot of that going around these days. Does it ring a Bell?
Area resident

Carson, CA

#2 Aug 5, 2010
What else is he doing to the city that the citizens don't know about?.....yet!
Roland

Downey, CA

#3 Aug 5, 2010
"Deem wouldn't comment on the status of Save Our Canyon's signature-gathering effort."

Hmmmm.....I wonder why? I saw the 3 Save our Canyon reps outside the post office and all I heard were crickets around them. If they eventually get the signatures I would demand they get authenticated.
Azusa citizen

Azusa, CA

#4 Aug 5, 2010
Azusans Against Mining Expansion are the ones gathering signatures. Roland hears crickets and might need his ears checked for bats. The people of Azusa are tired of having the mining pushed down there throats. We don't want the dust or the blasting. We will have our say and money can't stop us.
www.NoMiningExpansion.org
Aztecs Alumni

Azusa, CA

#5 Aug 5, 2010
I signed it and my family and neighbors are going to sign it. It is the right thing to do.
queenbe123

Montebello, CA

#6 Aug 6, 2010
Getting enough signatures on the petitions is only the first step of many; the next and most important step is getting the populace out to vote on the measure. So, if there arn't enough votes, either way, the referendum will probably fail. Judging by low voter turnout in the past this is a good possibility.

Since: Feb 10

Azusa, CA

#7 Aug 6, 2010
Azusa citizen wrote:
Azusans Against Mining Expansion are the ones gathering signatures. Roland hears crickets and might need his ears checked for bats. The people of Azusa are tired of having the mining pushed down there throats. We don't want the dust or the blasting. We will have our say and money can't stop us.
www.NoMiningExpansion.org
Yep, it is AAME collecting signatures. We also had a stalker for a week keeping an eye on us, maybe Roland was too engaged in conversations with him. The guy is a real talker.

“The Ravaged Canyon City”

Since: Feb 10

Azusa

#8 Aug 6, 2010
Vulcan sure has a lot of spokespersons, who's speaking for the people of Azusa? Joe Rocha for one is speaking for Azusa. Are we going to let our mayor stand alone against this travesty? Hell no, we are taking it to the streets!
Freddles

Calabasas, CA

#9 Aug 6, 2010
What? Wait a minute. That scar was from mining? I thought they were working on a large Hollywood movie backdrop for an alien planet on steroids.
It looks so gorgeous from my office window in Downey.

“The Ravaged Canyon City”

Since: Feb 10

Azusa

#10 Aug 6, 2010
Responses have been overwhelming. 90% of Azusa is against the "swapspansion". The sales pitch may yet have a use yet though, we could make a cheap grade "B" film called "Godzilla vs. the Swapspansion Monster"

Since: Feb 10

Azusa, CA

#11 Aug 6, 2010
I think I'll name the stalker, Mr. Fanny Pack.

“The Ravaged Canyon City”

Since: Feb 10

Azusa

#12 Aug 6, 2010
"You...telling me the things you're gonna do for me
I ain't blind and I don't like what I think I see

Takin' it to the streets"

"Tell me that you want the kind of things
That money just can't buy
I don't care too much for money
Money can't buy me love"

"And do I love you my oh my
Yeh river deep mountain high
If I lost you would I cry"

"Heard the singers playing, How we cheered for more.
The crowd had rushed together, Trying to keep warm.
Still the rain kept pouring, Falling on my ears.
And I wonder, Still I wonder Who'll stop the rain."

"But at one point he got flustered, and blurted out,“We had to destroy the village in order to save it.”
Azusa Resident

La Puente, CA

#13 Aug 6, 2010
I support the switch, and the increase in taxes. I will also vote on the referendum in favor of the City Council's decision. Ask what is the best economic decision for all Azusa residents, and what would benefit the City most? Obviously an expansion of Vulcan's Mining. Be glad that there's at least one industry other than growing dope that can be done in the San Gabriel Mountains! If you are worried about the air quality, then most of Southern California is not for you. I'm sure that in the near future Congress will turn most of the San Gabriels into a National Park, with countless miles of pure wilderness in which to frolic.

Last week I received a call from a company polling my stance about a possible referendum, and various other questions pertaining to the Vulcan expansion/switch. One of the arguments against the switch was that 'during an earthquake the hillside might collapse.' Wow, what a brilliant argument against the expansion. Northern Azusa is a liquefaction zone, so with a strong quake, a landslide away far away from homes will be the least of our problems. The other argument presented against the switch was that Vulcan had not paid their back taxes to the City of Azusa. Perhaps I am wrong, but I recall the City council stating that Vulcan had paid all of their taxes and were not behind.

In an ideal world it would be great to keep all vistas and views preserved. However, this Los Angeles County-not Shangri-La.

“The Ravaged Canyon City”

Since: Feb 10

Azusa

#14 Aug 6, 2010
1.) No increase in taxes, just a "prepayment".
2.) Voting is good.
3.) Thank you for calling a spade a spade.
4.) Destruction is an industry?
5.) Your landslide would travel uphill?
6.) Preserving our vistas and views is more than an ideal, it is paramount to the improvement of our city. Remember, Keep Azusa Beautiful!

“The Ravaged Canyon City”

Since: Feb 10

Azusa

#15 Aug 6, 2010
"When you're misinformed, the truth looks like a bunch of crap." Join the Coffee Party Movement

“The Ravaged Canyon City”

Since: Feb 10

Azusa

#16 Aug 6, 2010
"Lets play 'truth or dare'. Or maybe just dare, cause no one knows how to tell the truth anymore."
David

Lancaster, CA

#17 Aug 6, 2010
Strange that Fran Delach, who, by job description is supposed to represent the PEOPLE (not the council) of Azusa has gone out of his way to create a situation where the citizens have no say in the decisions. By his own admission he is working against the people of Azusa by denying them a vote.
Isn't it time to stand up against a corrupt city staff?
Alex

Lancaster, CA

#18 Aug 6, 2010
Hmm...
Fran Delach dos NOT live in Azusa and gets paid over 200k a year by Azusa citizens to lock them out of the decision making process?
Roland

Downey, CA

#19 Aug 6, 2010
BruceBKind wrote:
Responses have been overwhelming. 90% of Azusa is against the "swapspansion".
Link please?
Roland

Downey, CA

#20 Aug 6, 2010
Azusa citizen wrote:
Azusans Against Mining Expansion are the ones gathering signatures. Roland hears crickets and might need his ears checked for bats. The people of Azusa are tired of having the mining pushed down there throats. We don't want the dust or the blasting. We will have our say and money can't stop us.
www.NoMiningExpansion.org
So you're suggesting that the dust will improve if the mining is done on the east side closest to Azusa? Really? BTW, I did talk to the two ladies and the Santa Claus-looking guy outside the post office and they didn't sound very confident in their effort.

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