Off-duty deputy fatally shoots man in...

Off-duty deputy fatally shoots man in Azusa

There are 223 comments on the San Gabriel Valley Tribune story from Jun 9, 2010, titled Off-duty deputy fatally shoots man in Azusa. In it, San Gabriel Valley Tribune reports that:

A Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department detective at the scene of an officer involved shooting on Daybreak Drive and San Gabriel Canyon Boulevard in Azusa June 9, 2010.

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UNKNOWN

Northridge, CA

#1 Jun 9, 2010
this is ridiculous…..police are trained to USED without injuring or killing people. it was not necessary to open fire at a person whos not harming anyone’s lives and also HE didnt have any type of deadly force material . i believed that officer should be punished for the death of Antony Aguilar ....REST IN HEAVEN ....
Thank you to the police

Azusa, CA

#3 Jun 9, 2010
What were they doing out at 2am anyways? It was a weeknight! One less scumbag in our world to give free room and board to in the jails! Good riddance, dirtbag.
this sucks

United States

#5 Jun 9, 2010
Even if he was about to commit a burglary or auto theft, the cop (especially off-duty) has no authority to kill. There is no law that doesn't allow a person to be out at 2 am either. That poses another question, what was the off duty cop doing out at 2am? Bottom line, a suspect has the right to due process under the law and shooting an unarmed man is murder. It is clear that the police no longer protect and serve, rather have turned completely rogue becoming judge, jury, and executioner.
People have rights, morons, and there are protocols on handling suspects or potential suspects under the law. Shoot to kill on an unarmed person is MURDER no matter how you idiots want to justify it.
I am in awe of the ignorance and the boot licking of the cops...you would serve well in Nazi Germany.
Pro Cop

Burbank, CA

#7 Jun 9, 2010
I'm sure he was a nice guy like his family stated. The drugs are the ones to blame, they made him break the law.
my town LP

Long Beach, CA

#8 Jun 9, 2010
Mxyptlk wrote:
Umm........Dear Stupid, He was burglarizing cars and he reached for a gun. That means yer nephew is a DUMBA@@. See, that's why we should reinforce the border to Mexico. Amen.
what does the border have to do with this? cause he has a spanish last name?, or is it because your racist?.i have a spanish last name, but im more white then mexican,you make white people look bad...that cop was completely wrong and he should be fired for that and worst serve life in jail,like all other murderer.
Pro Cop

Burbank, CA

#9 Jun 9, 2010
Well, at least the taxpayers saved millions on wasted dollars.
my town LP

Long Beach, CA

#10 Jun 9, 2010
Mxyptlk wrote:
LOL, "this sucks" is yet another **** who doesn't belong in this country. Please, someone deport him so he can go back to the resort known as Tijuana, and yes, I know how to pronounce it.
PS. Judge, Jury, and Executioner.....That's the way it should be A_HOLE.
Regards,
Judge Dredd
judge, jury and executioner!?!?...dude white people the first ones to cry foul when something goes wrong...lets just kill them! havent you white people learned from history yet?..killing people dont solve problems, it creats them, just look at iraq, white people done made it worst and more unsave.now all kinds of different country dont even like the usa anymore cause you white people dont learn from history...MAN YOU REALLY ARE RETARDED!
my town LP

Long Beach, CA

#11 Jun 9, 2010
Pro Cop wrote:
I'm sure he was a nice guy like his family stated. The drugs are the ones to blame, they made him break the law.
innocent til proven guilty not, guilty cause hes hispanic and it looks like he up to no good, so lets kill him and say he was on drugs...huh!...cops biggest LA gang

“"Screw Politics"”

Since: Sep 09

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#12 Jun 9, 2010
Tough guy breaking into cars on a daily basis. Go back to the cops car and break in again? And then act tougher and act like you are reaching for a gun while committing a burglary already? Simple answer. Say good night and die. Instant justice. Good work copper.
Another perspective

Azusa, CA

#13 Jun 10, 2010
I have known the officer involved for many many years. I am not a fellow officer... I am just a friend of his. He is by no means someone who would look to be involved in a shooting unless absolutely necessary. He is the kind of guy you would absolutely want as a friend and neigbor... great family man, community oriented, humble, intelligent, and extremely honest. I am 100% confident that if he said he saw him reach for his waistband, that is what happened. He identified himself as an officer and told him to put his hands up. Tragically, the deceased chose to react in a manner that left no other choice.
I know that in any organization, there are some bad people, but this officer is not one of them. An officer who is out risking his life every day to keep us safe, when put in that situation (someone reaching for something instead of putting his hands up), can not wait to see if if a gun comes out. I am so very sorry for the family of the gentelmen that died as a result. Any loss of human life is tragic and I can't imagine what they are feeling.
However, in this case, this officer had no other choice. People will say there has to be some other way, but there isn't. If a police officer says to put your hands up, put them up. Otherwise they can't risk their life or the lives of other innocent bystandars to wait and see what happens.
Joe

Los Angeles, CA

#14 Jun 10, 2010
Irish Mad Man wrote:
Tough guy breaking into cars on a daily basis. Go back to the cops car and break in again? And then act tougher and act like you are reaching for a gun while committing a burglary already? Simple answer. Say good night and die. Instant justice. Good work copper.
All this hate, how could someones death bring happiness to people. Especially when none of us knew him. An unarmed man gets shot once and dies for allegedly breaking into a car. Really he had to die? May God forgive them both.

"Irish Mad Man" how do you feel when the English kill so many Irish? Why?
Joe

Los Angeles, CA

#15 Jun 10, 2010
Another perspective wrote:
I have known the officer involved for many many years. I am not a fellow officer... I am just a friend of his. He is by no means someone who would look to be involved in a shooting unless absolutely necessary. He is the kind of guy you would absolutely want as a friend and neigbor... great family man, community oriented, humble, intelligent, and extremely honest. I am 100% confident that if he said he saw him reach for his waistband, that is what happened. He identified himself as an officer and told him to put his hands up. Tragically, the deceased chose to react in a manner that left no other choice.
I know that in any organization, there are some bad people, but this officer is not one of them. An officer who is out risking his life every day to keep us safe, when put in that situation (someone reaching for something instead of putting his hands up), can not wait to see if if a gun comes out. I am so very sorry for the family of the gentelmen that died as a result. Any loss of human life is tragic and I can't imagine what they are feeling.
However, in this case, this officer had no other choice. People will say there has to be some other way, but there isn't. If a police officer says to put your hands up, put them up. Otherwise they can't risk their life or the lives of other innocent bystandars to wait and see what happens.
SHOOT TO KILL. Really cuz he didn't put his hands up? Not shoot him in the arm, leg or somewhere not fatal. Like I said may God forgive them both and that deputy has to live with this the rest of his life.
my town LP

Long Beach, CA

#16 Jun 10, 2010
Irish Mad Man wrote:
Tough guy breaking into cars on a daily basis. Go back to the cops car and break in again? And then act tougher and act like you are reaching for a gun while committing a burglary already? Simple answer. Say good night and die. Instant justice. Good work copper.
if i had wrongfully killed someone because i "thought" he might be committing a crime, cause hes hispanic and is out at 2am..(hispanics out at 2am are crimals according to racist cops and white people)..i would say mor then just he was reaching for a gun he never had,haha, just say he had a bomb...mad irish, must be mad to be putting childish racist comments and wheres your grammer dude?, OH THATS RIGHT HISPANICS TOOK IT FROM YOU, LIKE THEY TOOK ALL YOUR JOBS!...SO YOU WHITE PEOPLE SAY.
Another perspective

Azusa, CA

#17 Jun 10, 2010
Joe - I understand your anger. The reality is that in those situations, an officer can't risk trying to shoot someone in the arm or leg. This is reality, not 24 or a James Bond movie. In reality, when something like that is moving so fast, and lives are potentially at stake, you can't aim for an arm or leg, risk missing, and then possibly have another person shot. I know this suspect ended up not having a gun, but you can't know that or see it until after the fact. I agree with you that it is awful that someone died, but again, I have to disagree with you and say the officer had no other choice. Officers are humans with human capabilites... not super human movie cops who can jsut pick and choose which body part to hit.
my town LP

Long Beach, CA

#18 Jun 10, 2010
Joe wrote:
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SHOOT TO KILL. Really cuz he didn't put his hands up? Not shoot him in the arm, leg or somewhere not fatal. Like I said may God forgive them both and that deputy has to live with this the rest of his life.
JOE! bro, protocol for an off duty officer is to call 911 like the rest of us, but he took it upon himself to handle the situation and said he was a cop at 2am? dude how many white people been going around covina and azusa claiming to be cops and just recently were caught...hey im an off duty cop put you hands up and its 2am?...come on! people where is the commonsense in this? cops wait til you break the law before they stop you...but off duty cops kill you cause your hispanic and its 2am and it looks like your up to no good.
Joe

Los Angeles, CA

#19 Jun 10, 2010
Another perspective wrote:
Joe - I understand your anger. The reality is that in those situations, an officer can't risk trying to shoot someone in the arm or leg. This is reality, not 24 or a James Bond movie. In reality, when something like that is moving so fast, and lives are potentially at stake, you can't aim for an arm or leg, risk missing, and then possibly have another person shot. I know this suspect ended up not having a gun, but you can't know that or see it until after the fact. I agree with you that it is awful that someone died, but again, I have to disagree with you and say the officer had no other choice. Officers are humans with human capabilites... not super human movie cops who can jsut pick and choose which body part to hit.
Im not angry I am just questioning the deputies actions like my right as an American. Just like any other American. I strongly disagree with you YOUR FRIEND did have a choice just like the suspect. One shot a kill shot? I ask you this I totally agree if the suspect pulled a weapon then the deputy had all the right to shot, but fast movement does not justify shot to kill. What is your opinion. The truth about all this is that most of us don't know and will never know what happened.
BTW thank you for your respectful comments.
Joe

Los Angeles, CA

#20 Jun 10, 2010
my town LP wrote:
<quoted text>JOE! bro, protocol for an off duty officer is to call 911 like the rest of us, but he took it upon himself to handle the situation and said he was a cop at 2am? dude how many white people been going around covina and azusa claiming to be cops and just recently were caught...hey im an off duty cop put you hands up and its 2am?...come on! people where is the commonsense in this? cops wait til you break the law before they stop you...but off duty cops kill you cause your hispanic and its 2am and it looks like your up to no good.
Good point did you know that in LA a lot of gangsters roll in crown victorias and do that. Flash the lights and say put your hands up and end up robbing them.
my town LP

Long Beach, CA

#22 Jun 10, 2010
Joe wrote:
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Im not angry I am just questioning the deputies actions like my right as an American. Just like any other American. I strongly disagree with you YOUR FRIEND did have a choice just like the suspect. One shot a kill shot? I ask you this I totally agree if the suspect pulled a weapon then the deputy had all the right to shot, but fast movement does not justify shot to kill. What is your opinion. The truth about all this is that most of us don't know and will never know what happened.
BTW thank you for your respectful comments.
i totally agree with JOE!...one shot and hes dead and he didnt even have a gun!...to top it off its dark, so the cop should have call it in...the cop is a murderer, even if he was a nice guy.
Another perspective

Azusa, CA

#21 Jun 10, 2010
Joe wrote:
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Im not angry I am just questioning the deputies actions like my right as an American. Just like any other American. I strongly disagree with you YOUR FRIEND did have a choice just like the suspect. One shot a kill shot? I ask you this I totally agree if the suspect pulled a weapon then the deputy had all the right to shot, but fast movement does not justify shot to kill. What is your opinion. The truth about all this is that most of us don't know and will never know what happened.
BTW thank you for your respectful comments.
Joe - I too thank you for your respectful comments. In answer to your question, I guess it comes down to my interpretation of how those moments unfold. In my opinion, there is not time to wait and see if a weapon is being pulled. If there is the appearance of a weapon being pulled, the officer has to respond. It sounds like your opinion may be that he would have time to see if it was a weapon before deciding to shoot (or that he could have tried a non lethal shot). I guess we just will disagree on those two points. I do pray for both the family of the deceased and for my friend. Even though he and I both agree he acted in the only manner he could have, I know he mourns the fact that he took a life.
Joe

Los Angeles, CA

#23 Jun 10, 2010
Thank you to the police wrote:
What were they doing out at 2am anyways? It was a weeknight! One less **** in our world to give free room and board to in the jails! Good riddance, dirtbag.
Dirtbag? That is sad that a person's life is taken that you never met or really know anything about but good riddance. Last time I checked in America an 18 year old or older can be out at 2 am. STOP THE HATE YOUR ONLY HURTING YOURSELF!!!

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