General Zapata

United States

#82 Apr 16, 2013
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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Looking at the high murder rates in liberal Democrat strongholds like Detroit and Chicago, I would tend to agree.
Law, in general, does not deter crime. Law punishes people for committing crime.
It is the innate nature of individual human beings that deters crime.
It's my understanding that Chicago has a murder rate (by gun) that is much higher than either Los Angeles or New York City even though Chicago PD confiscates more guns than either city, sometimes more than the two combined. Per Chicago and NYC authorities, the difference is that NYC has much tougher laws regarding "straw purchases", whilst Chicago does not. As a result, the flow of guns into NYC is not anywhere as much as there is into Chicago, some as close as nearby towns. In short, gun control laws do seem to have a positive effect.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/state...
Wondering

United States

#83 Apr 16, 2013
I know the 2nd amendment bans "infringement" on the right to bear ARMS. I don't see that it guarantees an abundance of cheap AMMUNITION at WALMART
Wondering

Farmington, NM

#84 Apr 17, 2013
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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The idea that the gun industry needs the NRA to promote gun sales is ludicrous. All the gun industry needs to promote gun sales is for today's fascist modern Democrat party to suggest more gun control, and the gun industry can count on having to put on three shifts for at least a year.
Folks who believe that criminals will follow new laws, when they don't follow the ones we currently have, are the ones who reside in "LaLa land".
MY BAD. It was totally "ludicrous" for me to conclude that the NRA would PROMOTE the industry that gives them tens of millions of dollars each year. I know they believe more in PRINCIPLE than they care about MONEY. Based on YOUR argument about Democrats creating more gun sales, I would not be surprise if the NRA made a generous donation to Obama's reelection. Your credibility is "0".
xando

United States

#85 Apr 17, 2013
Wondering wrote:
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MY BAD. It was totally "ludicrous" for me to conclude that the NRA would PROMOTE the industry that gives them tens of millions of dollars each year. I know they believe more in PRINCIPLE than they care about MONEY. Based on YOUR argument about Democrats creating more gun sales, I would not be surprise if the NRA made a generous donation to Obama's reelection. Your credibility is "0".
Reason? Rationale? Oh dear. You're barking up the wrong tree with CN here.

Since: May 10

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#86 Apr 17, 2013
Wondering wrote:
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MY BAD. It was totally "ludicrous" for me to conclude that the NRA would PROMOTE the industry that gives them tens of millions of dollars each year. I know they believe more in PRINCIPLE than they care about MONEY. Based on YOUR argument about Democrats creating more gun sales, I would not be surprise if the NRA made a generous donation to Obama's reelection. Your credibility is "0".
Of course they care more about principle than they do money. That is the point.

Oh, and your bill failed. Your credibility is zero, as is Obama's on this issue.

Do you believe that Obama cares more about principle than he does money? Then why has he taken record donations from Wall Street? Barack Obama is the most two-faced President to hold the office in my lifetime...and I've been alive since LBJ.

The Second Amendment guarantees the First. Have a great day!
Wondering

Farmington, NM

#87 Apr 17, 2013
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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Of course they care more about principle than they do money. That is the point.
Oh, and your bill failed. Your credibility is zero, as is Obama's on this issue.
Do you believe that Obama cares more about principle than he does money? Then why has he taken record donations from Wall Street? Barack Obama is the most two-faced President to hold the office in my lifetime...and I've been alive since LBJ.
The Second Amendment guarantees the First. Have a great day!
So, you've been around since LBJ? Your youth explains a lot. You will grow up and mature in due time.

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#88 Apr 17, 2013
Wondering wrote:
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So, you've been around since LBJ? Your youth explains a lot. You will grow up and mature in due time.
Thanks for the compliment on my age! But I grew up, and out, of liberalism well before the Reagan administration. Everything that I've seen and experienced since has only further convinced me I was correct then, and am correct now.

Cheers!
Why Dat

Farmington, NM

#89 Apr 19, 2013
"Paul Revere was warning the British about gun control, and George Washington apparently was crossing the Delaware to bomb an abortion clinic." –Bill Maher, on history according to Sarah Palin
Cary L Nickel wrote:
I think Bill Maher is fine example of how the modern left envisions the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution. He may be a complete idiot, but at least he has a spine:
"Everyone on the left is so afraid to say what should be said, which is the Second Amendment is bullsh*t." - Bill Maher
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/0...

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#90 Apr 19, 2013
Why Dat wrote:
"Paul Revere was warning the British about gun control, and George Washington apparently was crossing the Delaware to bomb an abortion clinic." –Bill Maher, on history according to Sarah Palin
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As I said..Maher's an idiot.
RedSeaGraySky

Mesa, AZ

#91 Apr 19, 2013
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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As I said..Maher's an idiot.
Actually, in that case, it is Sarah Palin who is the idiot since Maher is quoting her.

Since: May 10

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#92 Apr 20, 2013
RedSeaGraySky wrote:
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Actually, in that case, it is Sarah Palin who is the idiot since Maher is quoting her.
Maher isn't quoting anybody. He is merely giving his opinion of Palin's off the cuff telling of the Paul Revere story, which while correct in spirit, did badly mangle several facts.

What does Maher have to say about our current President and his belief that he has "visited 57 states", and thinks he has "one to go"?

If Palin is an idiot because she doesn't store the details to Paul Revere's ride in her brain, to be reiterated at a moment's notice, then Obama is an idiot because he doesn't know how many states there are....today.

And the nation elected THAT idiot to be President..twice.
RedSeaGraySky

United States

#93 Apr 20, 2013
Oh c'mon. It's not as if this is the only stupid statement of hers out there. I guess I could list a few if you want to defend her. LOL

Her stupidity knows no bounds. At least Obama's is manageable.
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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Maher isn't quoting anybody. He is merely giving his opinion of Palin's off the cuff telling of the Paul Revere story, which while correct in spirit, did badly mangle several facts.
What does Maher have to say about our current President and his belief that he has "visited 57 states", and thinks he has "one to go"?
If Palin is an idiot because she doesn't store the details to Paul Revere's ride in her brain, to be reiterated at a moment's notice, then Obama is an idiot because he doesn't know how many states there are....today.
And the nation elected THAT idiot to be President..twice.
Wondering

Farmington, NM

#94 Apr 20, 2013
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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Maher isn't quoting anybody. He is merely giving his opinion of Palin's off the cuff telling of the Paul Revere story, which while correct in spirit, did badly mangle several facts.
What does Maher have to say about our current President and his belief that he has "visited 57 states", and thinks he has "one to go"?
If Palin is an idiot because she doesn't store the details to Paul Revere's ride in her brain, to be reiterated at a moment's notice, then Obama is an idiot because he doesn't know how many states there are....today.
And the nation elected THAT idiot to be President..twice.
"The nation" elected GWB ONCE, but he SERVED 2 terms. Are you going to quote any of his brilliant statements?
xando

United States

#95 Apr 20, 2013
You're so selective in your outrage. How about the 5th? The 6th? The first?

I think you just like to wave your guns around.
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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The fact that you do not believe that 2nd Amendment rights are threatened is an indication of just how uninformed you are.
Thought I believe in the case of most modern liberals, it is not ignorance that causes people to say gun rights are not under attack. It is the fact that modern liberals choose to be willfully misleading in order to further their fascist agenda.

Since: May 10

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#96 Apr 20, 2013
Wondering wrote:
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"The nation" elected GWB ONCE, but he SERVED 2 terms. Are you going to quote any of his brilliant statements?
Compared to Obama, George W. Bush is a Rhodes-Scholar libertarian. I'd have rather had him serve THREE terms than see the Marxist Obama elected once.

You people need to get over 2000 before you can move into the present.

Since: May 10

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#97 Apr 20, 2013
RedSeaGraySky wrote:
Oh c'mon. It's not as if this is the only stupid statement of hers out there. I guess I could list a few if you want to defend her. LOL
Her stupidity knows no bounds. At least Obama's is manageable.
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It doesn't take brilliance to be President. It takes the correct take on liberty and the U.S. Constitution.

Sarah Palin has it, Barack Obama does not.

Sarah Palin would be the superior President. But it will take the left getting over it's sexism to understand that. You people couldn't even nominate Hillary Clinton.

Since: May 10

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#98 Apr 20, 2013
xando wrote:
You're so selective in your outrage. How about the 5th? The 6th? The first?
I think you just like to wave your guns around.
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So, is your savior, Barack Obama, planning on eliminating the 1st, 5th and 6th amendments along with the 2nd?

The 2nd amendment preserves the rest. Perhaps that is why he wants to destroy it 1st.
xando

United States

#99 Apr 21, 2013
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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So, is your savior, Barack Obama, planning on eliminating the 1st, 5th and 6th amendments along with the 2nd?
The 2nd amendment preserves the rest. Perhaps that is why he wants to destroy it 1st.
Naaah. GWB did a pretty good job of that with The Patriot Act. How come you are not using your second amend rights to protect your first?

Windbag.
xando

United States

#100 Apr 21, 2013
In what ways does Obama oppose or misunderstand the Const?

Does voting against Barack Obama make you people racists?
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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It doesn't take brilliance to be President. It takes the correct take on liberty and the U.S. Constitution.
Sarah Palin has it, Barack Obama does not.
Sarah Palin would be the superior President. But it will take the left getting over it's sexism to understand that. You people couldn't even nominate Hillary Clinton.
xando

Phoenix, AZ

#101 Apr 21, 2013
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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The Second Amendment guarantees the First. Have a great day!
Well, then, it's failed miserably. The first has already been decimated by The Patriot Act.

Cheers!

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