Native Americans seek new era with feds

Native Americans seek new era with feds

There are 152 comments on the Farmington Daily Times story from Jul 16, 2011, titled Native Americans seek new era with feds. In it, Farmington Daily Times reports that:

American Indian leaders called for a new era in their relations with federal agencies on Friday in the wake of the government's recent $3.4 billion settlement for decades of mismanaging Indian lands.

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REZident

Farmington, NM

#109 Jan 17, 2013
The hired help wrote:
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Now that's funny! Please Obama, help us with a hand out! That's the problem with the Navajo people! Learn to do on your own! Get educated, learn to read and quit relying on hand outs! I know it has to be hard, giving free housing and all. Become a valued member of society, do something for yourselves instead of existing! Clean up your government and your reservation! Quit living off the government or spending your government checks at the casinos! Times are changing, and so should the navajo people.
Hey stupid the author was asking for prosecution of the stupid Navajo Officials. Freaken idiot.

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#110 Jan 18, 2013
Judas wrote:
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Get out you old farts!!!
Bet you're old enough to fart dust!
Observer

Farmington, NM

#111 Jan 18, 2013
solopassage wrote:
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Bet you're old enough to fart dust!
You Navajo Tribal Officials.
James

Farmington, NM

#112 Mar 24, 2013
Sequester the 130 million so that the old farts can't get in trouble. Why doesn't the navajo tribe try using monies right. Idiots.
Navajo

Farmington, NM

#113 Apr 21, 2013
FR: Navajo Nation,

To the US Gov. please give us more money so that we can keep a little for our selves and give the rest to the Hak Ghuns that come to scam us.
whammer jammer

Cedar Crest, NM

#114 Apr 25, 2013
Nahhhhh wrote:
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Archaeological evidence shows Native Americans were here about 14,000 yrs ago. Whitey showed up in North America about 400 yrs ago. Clearly natives were doing well without your gizmos and gadgets. did it once, can do it again, no prob.
Typical...uneducated liberal eastern opiner....You've got to be kidding me? 14,000 yrs. ago? Now, what is actually fact is this...there were anasazi here as long as 900 yrs. ago...Chaco Canyon, Aztec Ruins and Mesa Verde National Park...but your figures???? Idiot. Have you ever been here? Do you have any CLUE as to the politics of the Navajo Tribe vs. the people? The 'MAJORITY' of the 'people' know there is corruption and stealing within the administration of their government. Why? Because it doesn't fall within the same constraints as the rest of the world. They're a 'sovereign Nation'. Exclusivity. Do your homework before you opine. Otherwise? You look like what you are...an unplugged liberal without a clue as to what the real issues are...you don't do a service to any issue. Pro or con. Live it or shutup. Ignorance is not an excuse...Live it
Adglaani Tso

United States

#115 Apr 26, 2013
Below is just one link out of hundreds of thousand that back up the fact that humans were in North America thousands of years ago. The internet can be far more useful than just posting your rambling, barely coherent anti-Navajo postings. Ya old hag. Hows the smell of that nearby sewer lagoon this morning.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/11/...
whammer jammer wrote:
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ypical...uneducated liberal eastern opiner....You've got to be kidding me? 14,000 yrs. ago? Now, what is actually fact is this...there were anasazi here as long as 900 yrs. ago...Chaco Canyon, Aztec Ruins and Mesa Verde National Park...but your figures???? Idiot. Have you ever been here? Do you have any CLUE as to the politics of the Navajo Tribe vs. the people? The 'MAJORITY' of the 'people' know there is corruption and stealing within the administration of their government. Why? Because it doesn't fall within the same constraints as the rest of the world. They're a 'sovereign Nation'. Exclusivity. Do your homework before you opine. Otherwise? You look like what you are...an unplugged liberal without a clue as to what the real issues are...you don't do a service to any issue. Pro or con. Live it or shutup. Ignorance is not an excuse...Live it

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#116 Apr 26, 2013
whammer jammer wrote:
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Typical...uneducated liberal eastern opiner....You've got to be kidding me? 14,000 yrs. ago? Now, what is actually fact is this...there were anasazi here as long as 900 yrs. ago...Chaco Canyon, Aztec Ruins and Mesa Verde National Park...but your figures???? Idiot. Have you ever been here? Do you have any CLUE as to the politics of the Navajo Tribe vs. the people? The 'MAJORITY' of the 'people' know there is corruption and stealing within the administration of their government. Why? Because it doesn't fall within the same constraints as the rest of the world. They're a 'sovereign Nation'. Exclusivity. Do your homework before you opine. Otherwise? You look like what you are...an unplugged liberal without a clue as to what the real issues are...you don't do a service to any issue. Pro or con. Live it or shutup. Ignorance is not an excuse...Live it
If ignorance isn't an excuse, yours must be slathering stupidity.

Please do some research before you spout off, and a Kirtland Sunday school lesson is not considered a reliable archeological source especially someone whom is IQ challenged such as yourself.
Jaimie

Madison, WI

#117 Apr 27, 2013
The Hochunk Casino Indians have FBI and Federal Delegates assist capitolize off old SSDB LAnd deeds, treaties, DOcuments that are not a Real one, the real ones have the KINGS Seal and prints and signature and do the people that own it and dwell on it ON THE PAPERS Waxing and all.

Anyway they bought out primary shares in Wisconsin Lottery Headquarters, adn RED CROSS With the Amish

So all white people files are purged tossed stolen adn dismanteled so evidence of their ownership even history of existion can not be told in the future.

The Cherokees were asked to leave as they IGNITE my families WEREWOLF blood We are the real ROYALS and still alive. They tweeked us to much. The HOCHUNK were sent in by a SPANIARD INLAW to the CROWN later became lead delegate of all affiars, The Hochunk were the real Decendnets of the rebel exiled from off a ISLAND near RUSSIA Very much into foriegn trade and poisened several nations on purpose they were standing charges I think in FRANCE and Spanard permitted them to AMERIKA if they can track the royal family and assasinate them In my other life I was the BABY she carried Her heart was ripped out by vertical head dress of feathers, I sought solitude with a bandit Racoon, and befriended a indian nation of black and white face paint that remote view thru the racoons. Taught them of the microbes and bats indians that sought refuge in caves were not accustomed to BAT and spider microbes and went nutts and ran out the cave like suicide thinking they could fly
whammer jammer

Cedar Crest, NM

#118 Apr 29, 2013
Subutai wrote:
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If ignorance isn't an excuse, yours must be slathering stupidity.
Please do some research before you spout off, and a Kirtland Sunday school lesson is not considered a reliable archeological source especially someone whom is IQ challenged such as yourself.
And you sir/madaam are a sloth. A blithering sloth. Sunday school lesson? What? Reliable archeological source? I never claimed to be. What do most of the vested, educated population of this area claim to be? Not much...just uh...natives. Now, as to whether or not we retain what we were taught at the local 'ruins'? Have you ever been there? Idiot...IQ challenged? Have you ever explored the Mesa Verde ruins? Or the Aztec ruins? The Chaco Canyon ruins? any ruins? Have you, in your life ever taken a guided tour of any? Walked through the museum of any of them? You bigot. You bring your prejudice to every topic you opine on. Everyone is uneducated except for....'you'. What I take from that is this....everyone is wrong...everyone in the whole wide world...except for...you. Live with it. Pathetic.
whammer jammer

Cedar Crest, NM

#119 Apr 29, 2013
Adglaani Tso wrote:
Below is just one link out of hundreds of thousand that back up the fact that humans were in North America thousands of years ago. The internet can be far more useful than just posting your rambling, barely coherent anti-Navajo postings. Ya old hag. Hows the smell of that nearby sewer lagoon this morning.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/11/...
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I didn't say 'thousands' of years ago....what I said was 'hundreds of years ago'. What most of us 'natives' believe is that the first inhabitants came from the 'bridge'. That which connected us with Asia. Anti Navajo? Don't think anyone is anti-Navajo...just anti corrupt. Those of us who know...know. We all want all cultures to advance. Including members. But, if we keep protecting the abusers by clouding the truth with 'prejudice' opposition...there will always be a veil of protection for the offenders. Don't question the Tribe...you, you bigot...what? Question away! It's about time!
whammer jammer

Cedar Crest, NM

#120 Apr 29, 2013
Subutai wrote:
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If ignorance isn't an excuse, yours must be slathering stupidity.
Please do some research before you spout off, and a Kirtland Sunday school lesson is not considered a reliable archeological source especially someone whom is IQ challenged such as yourself.
You have no idea how much damage people like you create. What you should try to support is the education and productivity of the people. Sunday School lesson? They have no idea what you are talking about. There are no Christian lessons in their lives. They believe, they live...the Navajo way...who are you speaking to? San Francisco? Or our people? Shame on you.
Adglaani Tso

United States

#121 Apr 30, 2013
whammer jammer wrote:
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I didn't say 'thousands' of years ago....what I said was 'hundreds of years ago'. What most of us 'natives' believe is that the first inhabitants came from the 'bridge'. That which connected us with Asia. Anti Navajo? Don't think anyone is anti-Navajo...just anti corrupt. Those of us who know...know. We all want all cultures to advance. Including members. But, if we keep protecting the abusers by clouding the truth with 'prejudice' opposition...there will always be a veil of protection for the offenders. Don't question the Tribe...you, you bigot...what? Question away! It's about time!
What makes you think this so-called bridge was one-way only. It could have been used by Natives crossing into Asia.

Or the better question is "what makes you think". LOL
Post

Farmington, NM

#122 May 1, 2013
Now back to the post. Native Americans seek new era with feds. Yes we native americans do. We want the feds to prosecute the corruption in our government (Navajos). We need to start with a clean slate. We are tired of the old guard in the Navajo Government with limited schooling and with selfserving attitudes. Is the Federal Government going to let new EPA standards slide when the Navajo Nation tries to run the Coal mine or a power plant? Yeah right? So we are headed for another scandal? Millions poured down a bottomless pit or is their another Hak Ghun in the woodwork? Go figure Navajo Nation you bunch of idiots. Elect more white collar criminals. Then cover up their doings under the guise of Ke' and Hozho? SCAM? After SCAM? Discretionary funds, BCDS (Chili
& Hak)
Post

Farmington, NM

#123 May 1, 2013
etc. The Federal government needs to look to the Navajo people themselves. Well the educated ones in order to help the Navajo Nation. When they deal with old coyotes it is useless. One day soon the younger generation will wise up and take the reigns for the old and senile leaders we have now or the other brainwashed leaders. Everybody is passing our nation by. We need to catch up now. Get ready now you! the younger generation for the 2014 elections and get rid of the old system that only works for the current tribal officials and not the poeple as a whole. Do nothing if you want remain a third world country smack in the middle United States which is by the way the land of opportunity. "Hozho nahaas Glee" (X 4).
whammer jammer

Cedar Crest, NM

#124 May 1, 2013
Adglaani Tso wrote:
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What makes you think this so-called bridge was one-way only. It could have been used by Natives crossing into Asia.
Or the better question is "what makes you think". LOL
I rest my case...
Barry Groomfield

Hawthorne, CA

#125 May 3, 2013
whammer jammer wrote:
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I rest my case...
Yes you made your point you most definitely are an idiot.

You don't understand what you are saying, then when questioned you can't even make sense of the question.

Yes the education system failed if you are a shining example of its product.
FYI

Farmington, NM

#126 May 4, 2013
Aubrey convicted, Carl goes free
By Cindy Yurth
Tsyi' Bureau
CHINLE, May 3, 2013
A federal jury apparently did not buy contractor Bill Aubrey's
argument that $2.2 million he gambled with and spent on cars, jewelry and race horse training in the early 2000s was his own money.
Aubrey, the 69-year-old owner of Lodgebuilder, Inc. out of Mesquite, Nev., was convicted in U.S. District Court Thursday of two counts of conversion of money and funds from a tribal organization in connection with two aborted housing developments on the Navajo Nation.
His co-defendant, former NHA head Chester Carl who was accused of accepting $20,000 in gambling chips from Aubrey in exchange for favorable treatment for his company was acquitted on all counts.
Aubrey will be sentenced Aug. 7 in U.S. District Court in Las Vegas, Nev. He faces up to five years in prison and a $250,000 fine for each charge.
Carl, 56, who resigned from the NHA in 2007 after the scandal surfaced, is still banned from involvement in federally funded housing projects until the U.S. Department of Health, Education and Welfare reverses that decision.
This could affect the ability of the Navajo Nation Council's Resources and Development Committee to hire him as a consultant in its attempt to take over control of federal housing grants from the Navajo Housing Authority, as the committee discussed in a previous meeting.
The jury's decision came after a 13-day trial in which assistant U.S. attorneys Timothy Vasquez and Kathryn Newman argued Aubrey spent millions in federal grant money that was supposed to pay Lodgebuilder's subcontractors on the Chilchinbeto Estates project.

Aubrey's attorney said Aubrey had fronted the money for the project and was using the grant to pay himself back. The project only crashed after NHA and HUD, finding irregularities in the relationship between Lodgebuilder and NHA's sub-grantee, Fort Defiance Housing Corp., stopped funneling grant funds to FDHC and Lodgebuilder, defense attorney Michael Kennedy told the jury. Lodgebuilder declared bankruptcy in 2004.
Carl's attorney, Todd Leventhal, maintained Carl had accompanied Aubrey on a gambling spree at the Tropicana casino and used some of Aubrey's chips, but when the time came to cash them in, he gave all the money back to Aubrey.
Daniel G. Bogden, U.S. Attorney for the state of Nevada, lauded Aubrey's conviction in a press release, stating, "The Navajo Nation counted on the monies stolen by the defendant housing for its members. This defendant stole from the tribe and the American people, and used the monies to finance an extravagant lifestyle."
Lodgebuilder's Chilchinbeto Estates was finished by NHA and is presently occupied. The unfinished Lodgebuilder development in Shiprock has been so badly vandalized that the NHA recently decided to tear the homes down at a cost of $9 million, and rebuild them.
A three-year moratorium on new NHA construction imposed by HUD after the scandal is set to be lifted in the coming fiscal year.
lolol

Albuquerque, NM

#127 May 4, 2013
Nahhhhh wrote:
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Clearly natives were doing well without your gizmos and gadgets. did it once, can do it again, no prob
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why don't you try to come visit the reservation here and take the natives gizmo pickups and suv's away from them. I'd pay to see that.
Ganga

United States

#128 May 5, 2013
lolol wrote:
Nahhhhh wrote:
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Clearly natives were doing well without your gizmos and gadgets. did it once, can do it again, no prob
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why don't you try to come visit the reservation here and take the natives gizmo pickups and suv's away from them. I'd pay to see that.
Rio Rancho is a reservation? News to me.

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