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#21 Jul 9, 2014
Dave P wrote:
Calvinism vs Catholicism. Yawn.
Hey Calvin here's the thing. I am currently living out of my car. I have no home. Very little cash on hand. WHY SHOULD I (or anyone else) CARE ABOUT LIMITED ATONEMENT, FREE WILL, ELECTION, etc. when all I want is a Savior who will deliver me from this struggle?
You could be more like Catholics in the benevolent category.
End of the day-theology matters most to the eggheads. Give me simple faith in Christ. He can give me details later.
BTW are those the only two or three verses you know?
I am sorry about your misfortune. With a heavy heart I am sadden for you.

!!! Can you try a local shelter !!!

>>> Are not family you can turn to in time of need and crisis <<<

Tell me your city and nearby Churches and I will check neighboring shelters for assistance.

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#22 Jul 9, 2014
Calvins Corner wrote:
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I am sorry about your misfortune. With a heavy heart I am sadden for you.
!!! Can you try a local shelter !!!
>>> Are not family you can turn to in time of need and crisis <<<
Tell me your city and nearby Churches and I will check neighboring shelters for assistance.
I think he knows how to google. You didn't offer prayer.

Dave, you must not be part of the elect.

Hey Calvin: Are you among the elect?
Dave P

United States

#23 Jul 9, 2014
I have been DENIED help by almost every so called "Christian" group. Haven't gotten to all yet. I been giving the ports first chances. A social experiment if you will. Prots I mean.

Saving catholics for last. With what I've done on my own, I actually have a somewhat comfortable life. Shower, workouts, food.

I was hoping those of my own faith heritage or other prots would respond. I was wrong. The methodists wanted another number in the pews Sunday morning.

Tell me, why care about a groups theology when the group doesn't care about you personally?
Dave P

United States

#24 Jul 9, 2014
Calvin, my church of Christ family sent me to the catholics for help. Yes you read it correctly.
Dave P

United States

#25 Jul 9, 2014
Mike_Peterson wrote:
Jesus left us a very simple non 'egghead' plan for the lay Christian. Follow the shepherd on Earth who is the Church. Whoever hears him, hears Jesus and the one who sent Jesus.
So many people think the meaning of being a good Christian is letting everybody know his opinion of what the Bible means. A book, a Catholic book.
Most low end prots use the cradle to grave term to denigrate the Church. That the Church uses us instead of other way around
It is there for us from cradle to grave providing our needs for salvation,, faith and hope and love and for those who need it food, housing , medical care, and education Being doing that for 2000 years.
Other than terminology I agree wholeheartedly with this statement. On the education idea, some coc brethren think that the church has NO BUSINESS educating anyone today.
Throughput history of it wasn't for the church no one would have been very educated. State education is a new concept.
Just where did Sunday school start and why?
This whole idea and thread is where the catholic church outshines all others. Benevolence.

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#26 Jul 9, 2014
Mike_Peterson wrote:
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I think he knows how to google. You didn't offer prayer.
Dave, you must not be part of the elect.
Hey Calvin: Are you among the elect?
You know not my heart. I need not post the obvious just so that people know "I pray"

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#27 Jul 9, 2014
Dave P wrote:
Calvin, my church of Christ family sent me to the catholics for help. Yes you read it correctly.
I'm not quite following you on this. Your family put you in the streets? Why they point you to the Left-footers for help

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#28 Jul 9, 2014
Ephesians 2:8 and 9,ďFor by grace are you saved,

>>> through faith <<<

>> T H A T <<< not of yourselves,

>> I T <<< is the gift of God

>>> THAT <<< and >>>> IT <<< refer to !!! F A I T H !!! as the gift of God.

1 Corinthians 1:30,

>>> by Godís power <<< you are Christís,

>>> by His power <<< so that if you glory,

Only God can regenerate the dead to Life. It is the power of God alone that brings salvation to the sinner. If you repent, it is from God. If you have faith in Jesus Christ, it is from God. If you have eternal life, it is from God.

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#29 Jul 9, 2014
Dave P wrote:
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Other than terminology I agree wholeheartedly with this statement. On the education idea, some coc brethren think that the church has NO BUSINESS educating anyone today.
Throughput history of it wasn't for the church no one would have been very educated. State education is a new concept.
Just where did Sunday school start and why?
This whole idea and thread is where the catholic church outshines all others. Benevolence.
Where in the States are you located.

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#30 Jul 9, 2014
Mike_Peterson wrote:
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I think he knows how to google. You didn't offer prayer.
Dave, you must not be part of the elect.
Hey Calvin: Are you among the elect?

This be a rather strange thing to say when the Left-footers lay claim as the Elect of God graced with bible plus tradition. Pot meet Kettle.

Since: Sep 13

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#31 Jul 9, 2014
Dave P wrote:
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Other than terminology I agree wholeheartedly with this statement. On the education idea, some coc brethren think that the church has NO BUSINESS educating anyone today.
Throughput history of it wasn't for the church no one would have been very educated. State education is a new concept.
Just where did Sunday school start and why?
This whole idea and thread is where the catholic church outshines all others. Benevolence.
Sunday schools started in the 1700s.
I love history.
In England
The Catholic church was the original provider of education in this country. From the Middle Ages onwards, the church took responsibility for teaching children. Central to this work has always been our dedication to providing education for the poorest in society. Following Catholic emancipation in the 19th century, the Catholic bishops of England and Wales prioritised the building of schools before the building of churches. Then, as now, the church's commitment to education was strong.
The Church created the University System.
In the Middle Ages,(Dark Ages) education in Western Europe was VERY poor. In fact, about the only people who COULD read and write were priests and monks, and the highest levels of royalty. During the Cluny Reform Movement of the tenth and eleventh centuries, the Catholic Church made it a requirement for priests to go to seminaries, and so schools for priests attached to cathedrals became quite common. From time to time, royalty or a few wealthy merchants would ask to "sit in" on these classes, as it was one of the only ways to receive an education. As Europe revived, more and more secular students started joining the seminaries, and by the mid-eleventh century, the pope decreed that universities for lay people would be branched off of many of these seminaries. The University of Bologna was the first in 1158, but others included Oxford and Cambridge in England, Salamanca in Spain, Heidelberg in Germany, and the University of Paris (the Sorbonne) in France (which, in fact, was once part of Notre Dame's seminary). These institutions were still run by the church, but they were designed for a lay education.

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#32 Jul 9, 2014
An Anglican named Robert Raikes gave birth to Sunday schools in Britain in the mid 1700ís

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#33 Jul 9, 2014
Calvins Corner wrote:
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This be a rather strange thing to say when the Left-footers lay claim as the Elect of God graced with bible plus tradition. Pot meet Kettle.
You don't know what the Catholic Church teaches. It says that if you have a Trinitarian Baptism and don't die in a state of mortal sin, you will be saved.

That being said, since Jesus and Blessed Mary were the only 2 humans without sin, one will need the sacrament of confession. Jesus told us we had to confess our sins to one another and to his Apostles that whatever sins they forgive on earth or forgiven in heaven.

The problem is the sacraments of the Church can only be administered by the successors to the Apostles.

Find out when the RCIA program starts in your area

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#34 Jul 9, 2014
Mike_Peterson wrote:
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You don't know what the Catholic Church teaches. It says that if you have a Trinitarian Baptism and don't die in a state of mortal sin, you will be saved.
That being said, since Jesus and Blessed Mary were the only 2 humans without sin, one will need the sacrament of confession. Jesus told us we had to confess our sins to one another and to his Apostles that whatever sins they forgive on earth or forgiven in heaven.
The problem is the sacraments of the Church can only be administered by the successors to the Apostles.
Find out when the RCIA program starts in your area
Utter nonsense. You have History because you broke away from the Church near to Pauís day. Our bibles warn of the great apostasy which remains till our Lord returns. You buy the sinless Mary fairytale rubbish if you so please. Your brand has perverted the gospel even history as to deceive men as yourself. I pity you and hope you return to the revealed word as the only source of living and put away the foolishness of Roman Catholic History that clearly contradicts the bible. Have a blessed night.

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#35 Jul 9, 2014
Calvins Corner wrote:
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Utter nonsense. You have History because you broke away from the Church near to Pauís day. Our bibles warn of the great apostasy which remains till our Lord returns. You buy the sinless Mary fairytale rubbish if you so please. Your brand has perverted the gospel even history as to deceive men as yourself. I pity you and hope you return to the revealed word as the only source of living and put away the foolishness of Roman Catholic History that clearly contradicts the bible. Have a blessed night.
Who taught you this? Your daddy no doubt.

What "Brand" of non Catholic ecclesial community do you belong to?
Roman Catholic Sproul

North York, Canada

#36 Jul 11, 2014
Peter_Williams wrote:
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You really want to open this can of worm? I guess God sends the unchosen to hell right
Of course!!!!! I believe that was the answer you anticipated.
Roman Catholic Sproul

North York, Canada

#37 Jul 11, 2014
Mike_Peterson wrote:
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Who taught you this? Your daddy no doubt.
What "Brand" of non Catholic ecclesial community do you belong to?
Taught by our Father through the word. Nothing strange about that is there?

I congratulate those who have made comments about Catholic/ Protestant beliefs. Some very good comments by all and backed by scripture. I enjoyed reading the posts, keep up the good work. Now back to the sidelines.

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#38 Jul 13, 2014
Roman Catholic Sproul wrote:
<quoted text>Of course!!!!! I believe that was the answer you anticipated.
Daniel, you should contribute more on here.
Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#39 Jul 13, 2014

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