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#1 Jul 7, 2014
John chapter 1 verse 12,“As many as received Him, to ………… >>>> T H E M

He gave the power to become children of God

even to those who believe in His name.”

>>> T H E Y <<< were B O R N, verse 13 says, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, >>> nor of the will of man <<< !!!! but of God !!!!

If anyone receives, if anyone believes, it is because it is the will of God by which God Himself has given the power to the sinner to become His child. This is what everyone on this platform is not seeing. You have no ability in yourself to will salvation. You only can act willingly if God granted you the P O W E R to become children of God.

John 10 verse 11,“I am the Good Shepherd, the Good Shepherd lays down His life for T H E S H E E P.

Verse 14, I am the Good Shepherd, >>> I know My own <<< and My own know Me. Even as the Father knows Me and I know the Father and I lay down My life for the sheep. I have other sheep which are not of this fold, I must bring them also.

How did they become His sheep? They are a gift from the Father to the Son.“All that the Father gives to Me shall come to Me,” John 6.“And they will hear My voice and they will become one flock with one shepherd.”

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#2 Jul 7, 2014
Calvins Corner wrote:
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How did they become His sheep? They are a gift from the Father to the Son.“All that the Father gives to Me shall come to Me,” John 6.“And they will hear My voice and they will become one flock with one shepherd.”
Whoever hears you hears me.
Whoever rejects you rejects me. And whoever rejects me rejects Him who sent me."

Who was he talking about about whoever hears you? Do your reject Him who sent Jesus?

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#3 Jul 7, 2014
Everyone believes is limited atonement.

The big question is, who limits it?

Either mankind believe he limits it by his so called will or God limits it by sovereign design.

If you believe by the will of man you limit the atonement you have a warped idea of the work of Christ.

If by your choice to not believe in Christ you believe you somehow limit His atonement, you are wrong.

>>>>>> Christ died for His sheep not for the goats <<<<<<

More to the point, the atonement is limited in its efficacy. It is limited in its efficiency. It is limited in its application.

More directly, >>> it is limited to the sheep for which Christ shed His blood <<<

When we read that Christ died for >>> A L L <<< it doesn’t mean every single individual.

>>> His atonement is limited to those given to Him by the Father <<<

>>> ALL of His sheep <<< come to him and He loses not one << >> for His blood is not like bulls and goats which could never take away sins. His blood purchased us as a payment to the Father.

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#4 Jul 7, 2014
In scripture, the A L L,

W H O S O E V E R,

S H E E P,

are those for whom Jesus purchased with His blood.

He is very clear that some do not H E A R.

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#5 Jul 7, 2014
The bible says that >>> A L L <<< knew that John the Baptist was a prophet.

Does this mean everybody on the planet? Certainly not!

Anytime A L L is used, there is a point of reference >>>> A L L of a certain people.

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#6 Jul 7, 2014
Calvins Corner wrote:
The bible says that >>> A L L <<< knew that John the Baptist was a prophet.
Does this mean everybody on the planet? Certainly not!
Anytime A L L is used, there is a point of reference >>>> A L L of a certain people.
Whenever a Calvinist comments, all I can think of is Tiny Tim

How many points does your TULIP has?

Bobby do believe all of this. Slick is # 1 on your people to quote.

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#7 Jul 7, 2014
I noticed the post about not being born from our wills was not touched. It is strange that Christians read over that verse and pretend they still come to God by human will.

…more

“Worthy are You to take the book and break its seals for You were slain and purchased for God with Your blood,

>>> men from every tribe and tongue and people and nation <<< His blood purchased for God not every man but men from every tribe and tongue and people and nation

You have made >>> T H E M <<< to be a Kingdom and priests to our God and >>> T H E Y <<< will reign upon the earth.”

“Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power and riches and wisdom and might and honor and glory and blessing >>> “To Him who sits on the throne, namely God, and to the Lamb be blessing and honor and glory and dominion forever and ever.”

“You were slain and purchased for God with Your blood, >>> men from every tribe and tongue and people and nation <<< not every man from every tribe and tongue and people and nation but limited men from every tribe and tongue and people and nation.

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#8 Jul 7, 2014
Let us return to the top since it was looked over.

>>> T H E Y <<< were born, not of blood,

nor of the will of the flesh,

NOR OF THE WILL OF MAN >>>> but of God.

If anyone believes, it is because it is the will of God by which God has given the power to the sinner to become His child.

The >>> T H E Y <<< above is about those who were born of God, not born of human will, nor of the will of the flesh, not of blood.

“Hail Mary, Full of Grace”

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#9 Jul 7, 2014
Calvins Corner wrote:
Let us return to the top since it was looked over.
>>> T H E Y <<< were born, not of blood,
nor of the will of the flesh,
NOR OF THE WILL OF MAN >>>> but of God.
If anyone believes, it is because it is the will of God by which God has given the power to the sinner to become His child.
The >>> T H E Y <<< above is about those who were born of God, not born of human will, nor of the will of the flesh, not of blood.
You really want to open this can of worm? I guess God sends the unchosen to hell right

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#10 Jul 8, 2014
Peter_Williams wrote:
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You really want to open this can of worm? I guess God sends the unchosen to hell right
Your best is this?

!!!!! >>> How about answering my post <<< !!!!!

Let us return to the top since it was looked over.

>>> T H E Y <<< were born, not of blood,

nor of the will of the flesh,

NOR OF THE WILL OF MAN >>>> but of God.

If anyone believes, it is because it is the will of God by which God has given the power to the sinner to become His child.

The >>> T H E Y <<< above is about those who were born of God, not born of human will, nor of the will of the flesh, not of blood

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#11 Jul 8, 2014
Calvins Corner wrote:
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Your best is this?
!!!!! >>> How about answering my post <<< !!!!!
Let us return to the top since it was looked over.
>>> T H E Y <<< were born, not of blood,
nor of the will of the flesh,
NOR OF THE WILL OF MAN >>>> but of God.
If anyone believes, it is because it is the will of God by which God has given the power to the sinner to become His child.
The >>> T H E Y <<< above is about those who were born of God, not born of human will, nor of the will of the flesh, not of blood
Do you believe everything Calvin taught?

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#12 Jul 8, 2014
Someone on here said something about Adam using O R A L orders to Eve. I can not find the comment now but here I my response.

!!! Your comment has no meat in it just a bunch of fat and gristle !!!

It is self-refuting.

You say Adam >>> T O L D <<< Eve what God said which to you means >>> ORAL <<< orders apart from anything written.

How did you reach this conclusion? >>> THE BIBLE <<<

You would not know squat about Adam or Eve if not for it in your bible. See the irony?

I can imagine your logic applied to the Jew of old in regard to the claims of the Prophets.

The Jew of old read Isaiah faithfully without any >>> magisterium <<<

Jesus often pointed to the word of the Prophets to be of God >>> IT IS WRITTEN <<<

Not >>> see what the magisterium says <<<

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#13 Jul 8, 2014
Mike_Peterson wrote:
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Do you believe everything Calvin taught?
To my knowledge I have quoted to you that which is from God not Calvin. John says God gives us birth and such a birth is not fleshly nor wrought by our will.

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#14 Jul 8, 2014
Let us return to the top since it was looked over.

>>> T H E Y <<< were born, not of blood,

nor of the will of the flesh,

NOR OF THE WILL OF MAN >>>> but of God.

If anyone believes, it is because it is the will of God by which God has given the power to the sinner to become His child.

The >>> T H E Y <<< above is about those who were born of God, not born of human will, nor of the will of the flesh, not of blood.

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#15 Jul 8, 2014
Mike_Peterson wrote:
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Do you believe everything Calvin taught?
You Left-Footers travel a road paved with blood and extra biblical jargon. If you’re going to throw out a hook you won’t catch this fish. I’m happily available for discussion long as it revolves around God’s written revealed word. Anything less or more is simply a dry pond and not worth you casting any bait as I will not bite.

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#16 Jul 8, 2014
Calvins Corner wrote:
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You Left-Footers travel a road paved with blood and extra biblical jargon. If you’re going to throw out a hook you won’t catch this fish. I’m happily available for discussion long as it revolves around God’s written revealed word. Anything less or more is simply a dry pond and not worth you casting any bait as I will not bite.
Discussing scripture with somebody who believes in sola scriptura is complete waste of time. It is is peeing into the wind.

You are right and everybody else is wrong and the other person thinks that too.

The Church owns the Bible and what you think about what it means is relevant only to yourself.

Do you believe everything Calvin believed? He invented this.

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#17 Jul 8, 2014
>>> T H E Y <<< were born, not of blood,

nor of the will of the flesh,

NOR OF THE WILL OF MAN >>>> but of God.

If anyone believes, it is because it is the will of God by which God has given the power to the sinner to become His child.

The >>> T H E Y <<< above is about those who were born of God, not born of human will, nor of the will of the flesh, not of blood.

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#18 Jul 8, 2014
John chapter 1 verse 12,“As many as received Him, to ………… >>>> T H E M

He gave the power to become children of God

even to those who believe in His name.”

>>> T H E Y <<< were B O R N, verse 13 says, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, >>> nor of the will of man <<< !!!! but of God !!!!

If anyone receives, if anyone believes, it is because it is the will of God by which God Himself has given the power to the sinner to become His child. This is what everyone on this platform is not seeing. You have no ability in yourself to will salvation. You only can act willingly if God granted you the P O W E R to become children of God.

John 10 verse 11,“I am the Good Shepherd, the Good Shepherd lays down His life for T H E S H E E P.

Verse 14, I am the Good Shepherd, >>> I know My own <<< and My own know Me. Even as the Father knows Me and I know the Father and I lay down My life for the sheep. I have other sheep which are not of this fold, I must bring them also.

How did they become His sheep? They are a gift from the Father to the Son.“All that the Father gives to Me shall come to Me,” John 6.“And they will hear My voice and they will become one flock with one shepherd.”
Dave P

Hillsboro, KY

#19 Jul 9, 2014
Calvinism vs Catholicism. Yawn.

Hey Calvin here's the thing. I am currently living out of my car. I have no home. Very little cash on hand. WHY SHOULD I (or anyone else) CARE ABOUT LIMITED ATONEMENT, FREE WILL, ELECTION, etc. when all I want is a Savior who will deliver me from this struggle?

You could be more like Catholics in the benevolent category.

End of the day-theology matters most to the eggheads. Give me simple faith in Christ. He can give me details later.

BTW are those the only two or three verses you know?

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#20 Jul 9, 2014
Jesus left us a very simple non 'egghead' plan for the lay Christian. Follow the shepherd on Earth who is the Church. Whoever hears him, hears Jesus and the one who sent Jesus.

So many people think the meaning of being a good Christian is letting everybody know his opinion of what the Bible means. A book, a Catholic book.

Most low end prots use the cradle to grave term to denigrate the Church. That the Church uses us instead of other way around

It is there for us from cradle to grave providing our needs for salvation,, faith and hope and love and for those who need it food, housing , medical care, and education Being doing that for 2000 years.

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