Mexican IDs issued on Catalina spark a firestorm

Catalina Island reluctantly finds itself in the middle of an international tussle over illegal immigration, and some leaders are blaming their own congressman for putting them there. Full Story
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Oncle Willie

Barstow, CA

#1 Jun 12, 2010
Legal or not? If they are not in this country legally, and that would include Avalon, they need to be deported back to their home country. Those illegals are stealing American jobs and lowering the standard of living for everyone in the community. I was on Catalina Island about five years ago and everywhere you looked Mexicans were working in the building trades. I would hazard a guess that most of them were on Catalina illegally and they stole a job from a legal resident of this country. Anything that makes it "easier" for an illegal alien to remain and prosper in this country is just flat wrong. What part of "abetting a criminal act" doesn't Mr. Kennedy understand?

There would be no controversy in this country over illegal aliens if the Federal government would just do its job. No illegals=no controversy.
barry

Rainsville, AL

#2 Jun 12, 2010
Oncle Willie wrote:
Legal or not? If they are not in this country legally, and that would include Avalon, they need to be deported back to their home country. Those illegals are stealing American jobs and lowering the standard of living for everyone in the community. I was on Catalina Island about five years ago and everywhere you looked Mexicans were working in the building trades. I would hazard a guess that most of them were on Catalina illegally and they stole a job from a legal resident of this country. Anything that makes it "easier" for an illegal alien to remain and prosper in this country is just flat wrong. What part of "abetting a criminal act" doesn't Mr. Kennedy understand?
There would be no controversy in this country over illegal aliens if the Federal government would just do its job. No illegals=no controversy.
love you people who would "hazzard a guess" based on skin color. that island has had generations of mexicans living there. perhaps since they joined the union.
dude

Los Angeles, CA

#3 Jun 12, 2010
Legal is cool, illegal is not, regardless of skin color.
Purple Sage Rider

AOL

#4 Jun 12, 2010
How about "guessing" as a result of their not speaking a lick of Ingles and having an affinity for everything Red, White, and Green while also expressing contempt for El Gabacho.

American's are dumb as dirt to give their country away but I don't blame Mexicans for taking it since no one's stopping them. What a gutless country.
barry

Rainsville, AL

#5 Jun 12, 2010
Purple Sage Rider wrote:
How about "guessing" as a result of their not speaking a lick of Ingles and having an affinity for everything Red, White, and Green while also expressing contempt for El Gabacho.
American's are dumb as dirt to give their country away but I don't blame Mexicans for taking it since no one's stopping them. What a gutless country.
stick to the subject.
#1 you were probably never on that island so you don't know if the have contempt for "el gabacho"
#2 were i come from there are whole communities that do not speak english very well and they are American citizens. i grew up in an italian community. they no seakidy much engle and they flew their flags but they were legal.
so keep guessing it makes for an interesting life.
Purple Sage Rider

AOL

#7 Jun 12, 2010
barry wrote:
<quoted text>stick to the subject.
#1 you were probably never on that island so you don't know if the have contempt for "el gabacho"
#2 were i come from there are whole communities that do not speak english very well and they are American citizens. i grew up in an italian community. they no seakidy much engle and they flew their flags but they were legal.
so keep guessing it makes for an interesting life.
#1)I see the island every day and have been there often.

#2) I KNOW where they're from. So does everyone else who lives on that island. We're not stupid.

#3) I'm tired of your treasonous BS. Tolerance of you and your kind who constantly seek to destroy and undermine rule of law and American sovereignty is getting lots of people hurt. One day I hope you pay for it.
TRUTH

Long Beach, CA

#8 Jun 12, 2010
I wonder what the qualifications for obtaining one of these cards is. I am willing to go and get one with a fake name and DOB. All United States Citizens should get one.
Illegals Impact

Los Alamitos, CA

#9 Jun 12, 2010
Public school enrollment of English Learners is a good estimate of the numbers of illegal immigrant children. A few hundred on Catalina may seem small, but nobody knows how many illegal immigrants go to the island to get their identification documents? The larger the area of residence, the number of English Learners grows exponentially: Catalina - 209; LBUSD - 20,715; LA County - 443,623; CA State - 1,513,233.

Considering that there are over 1.5 million English Language Learners attending California public schools with two parents each, the number of probable illegal immigrants is phenomenal, unsustainable and unmanageable. As a result, California is bankrupt from providing education and other social services to illegal immigrants and their families.

Here's a peek at actual enrollment for public school on Catalina Island in Avalon:

Avalon, Catalina Island Avalon
Long Beach Unified School District (LBUSD)

School Level Enrollment Reports:
American Indian/Alaska Native -.02%
Asian -.03%
Pacific Islander -.02%
Filipino - 0.8%
Hispanic or Latino - 68.7%
African American - 0.0%
White - 29.7%
Multiple or No Response - 0.2%
Total Enrollment - 649

English Learners Totals:
Spanish - 209 or 99.1% Avalon
20,715 LBUSD District
443,623 Los Angeles County
1,513,233 State

2008/09 School Enrollment by Ethnicity:
http://dq.cde.ca.gov/dataquest/SchEnr.asp...

2008/09 English Learners by Language and Grade:
http://dq.cde.ca.gov/dataquest/LEPbyLang4.asp...
Boycott Sanctuary Cities

Greenville, CA

#10 Jun 12, 2010
sanctuary cities are illegal

Calif. Penal Code Sec. 834b

834b.(a) Every law enforcement agency in California shall fully cooperate with the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service regarding any person who is arrested if he or she is suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws.

(b) With respect to any such person who is arrested, and suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws, every law enforcement agency shall do the following:

(1) Attempt to verify the legal status of such person as a citizen of the United States, an alien lawfully admitted as a permanent resident, an alien lawfully admitted for a temporary period of time or as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of immigration laws. The verification process may include, but shall not be limited to, questioning the person regarding his or her date and place of birth, and entry into the United States, and demanding documentation to indicate his or her legal status.

(2) Notify the person of his or her apparent status as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws and inform him or her that, apart from any criminal justice proceedings, he or she must either obtain legal status or leave the United States.

(3) Notify the Attorney General of California and the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service of the apparent illegal status and provide any additional information that may be requested by any other public entity.

( this part prohibits sanctury cities )
(c) Any legislative, administrative, or other action by a city, county, or other legally authorized local governmental entity with jurisdictional boundaries, or by a law enforcement agency, to prevent or limit the cooperation required by subdivision (a) is expressly prohibited.

http://www.americanpatrol.com/REFERENCE/PENAL...

See other sections of the Calif. Penal Code pertaining to illegals
http://www.americanpatrol.com/REFERENCE/PENAL...
Illegals Impact

Los Alamitos, CA

#12 Jun 12, 2010
“California’s $20 billion + deficit and its expansion of entitlement programs during the last 8 years have severely impacted the state’s cities, counties and school districts.”-- Supervisor Michael Antonovich, Los Angeles County. 

"The argument that illegals contribute more than they receive in government services is nonsense. Illegal immigration has had a catastrophic economic impact on Los Angeles County Our bankrupt health care delivery system has become an HMO for the world and criminal illegal aliens are overwhelming our criminal justice system.

Within this County’s health care delivery system, illegals are being treated at a cost of nearly $500 million dollars a year. The cost alone to our Criminal Justice system for the 25 percent of the illegals that up the jail population exceeds 250 million dollars a year. Additionally, illegals collect over $264 million in CALWORKS payments and $312 million in food stamp allocations These costs alone exceed one billion dollars annually – excluding the cost of education."

http://antonovich.co.la.ca.us/Pages/Issues/il...

California is the leading state of residence of unauthorized immigrant population, with 2.6 million. Texas had 1.7 million unauthorized residents, followed by Florida with 720,000. Total estimated population unauthorized population for all states is 10,750,000!

Mexico is the country of birth for 62% of the U.S. unauthorized immigrant population.

State of Residence of the Unauthorized Immigrant Population
All States -- 10,750,000
California -- 2,600,000
Texas -- 1,680,000
Florida -- 720,000
New York -- 550,000
Illinois -- 540,000
Georgia -- 480,000
Arizona -- 460,000
North Carolina -- 370,000
New Jersey -- 360,000
Nevada -- 260,000
Other states -- 2,730,000

http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics...
Boycott Sanctuary Cities

Greenville, CA

#16 Jun 12, 2010
Illegals Impact wrote:
“California’s $20 billion + deficit and its expansion of entitlement programs during the last 8 years have severely impacted the state’s cities, counties and school districts.”-- Supervisor Michael Antonovich, Los Angeles County. 
"The argument that illegals contribute more than they receive in government services is nonsense. Illegal immigration has had a catastrophic economic impact on Los Angeles County Our bankrupt health care delivery system has become an HMO for the world and criminal illegal aliens are overwhelming our criminal justice system.
Within this County’s health care delivery system, illegals are being treated at a cost of nearly $500 million dollars a year. The cost alone to our Criminal Justice system for the 25 percent of the illegals that up the jail population exceeds 250 million dollars a year. Additionally, illegals collect over $264 million in CALWORKS payments and $312 million in food stamp allocations These costs alone exceed one billion dollars annually – excluding the cost of education."
http://antonovich.co.la.ca.us/Pages/Issues/il...
California is the leading state of residence of unauthorized immigrant population, with 2.6 million. Texas had 1.7 million unauthorized residents, followed by Florida with 720,000. Total estimated population unauthorized population for all states is 10,750,000!
Mexico is the country of birth for 62% of the U.S. unauthorized immigrant population.
State of Residence of the Unauthorized Immigrant Population
All States -- 10,750,000
California -- 2,600,000
Texas -- 1,680,000
Florida -- 720,000
New York -- 550,000
Illinois -- 540,000
Georgia -- 480,000
Arizona -- 460,000
North Carolina -- 370,000
New Jersey -- 360,000
Nevada -- 260,000
Other states -- 2,730,000
http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics...
calling illegal invaders "immigrants"

is like

calling a bank robber a "customer"
Boycott Sanctuary Cities

Greenville, CA

#17 Jun 12, 2010
American tax payer wrote:
Not only do I support immigration reform, but I also think while were shipping them out we should give each one two AFRICAN AMERICANS and one of them little Chihuahua dogs to take with them.
we dont need your racist crap or immigration reform

we need

ENFORCEMENT REFORM

we have lots of laws now that need to be

ENFORCED

What good would it do to pass more laws if they dont enforce them ?

,,I,,ibtards

lol
BOYCOTT CATALINA

Huntington Beach, CA

#18 Jun 12, 2010
Kennedy is a miserable lying piece of garbage. I've read that the lsland has shipped in SWAT teams to deal with the illegal immigrant gang problem, and it's been noted as a dropoff point for illegal alien drug smugglers and human traffickers. The PT is a miserable rag to post what they know to be lies.
My family reunion on Catalina island this summer has been cancelled.
I suggest everyone else do the same. Register your disgust with these people and BOYCOTT CATALINA!!!
dosomething

Huntington Beach, CA

#20 Jun 12, 2010
Real citizens of Catalina, take your island back!

&fe ature=related
Navy Veteran

Los Angeles, CA

#21 Jun 12, 2010
Our country was built by immigrants and on the blood and sweat of Black people kidnapped from Africa. I'm not mad at the man who crosses the river with his wife and two children seeking a better life, I'm upset with our government for not closing our borders. We're at a state of war. How come people from another country can just walk right in and get a job and food stamps? This did'nt happen during WWII
teacher

North Hollywood, CA

#22 Jun 12, 2010
Navy Veteran wrote:
Our country was built by immigrants and on the blood and sweat of Black people kidnapped from Africa.
Go back to school, Navy boy. America was built by whites. If blacks could build a functional economy, you would have seen one somewhere in the world by now. There isn't, because they can't. As far as kidnapping, black african slaves came from defeated warring tribes. The losers, instead of being killed on the spot, their hearts ripped out of their chest cavity and eaten, were instead marched to standing forts run by blacks and sold to them on the open market to countries all around the world. So you see, if slavery wasn't allowed in the United States, and elsewhere, every single black in this country would have never existed, because their gene pool would have been eliminated by the victorious tribe. Just like Mexico, we didn't get the "cream of the crop" from Africa. We got the losers.
Life isn't all wrapped up in a neat little bow, most of the time. When you grow up and decide to read a book or two, you might stop yapping about things you're ignorant about. Until then, try shutting up.
los123lbz

Long Beach, CA

#23 Jun 13, 2010
teacher wrote:
<quoted text>
Go back to school, Navy boy. America was built by whites. If blacks could build a functional economy, you would have seen one somewhere in the world by now. There isn't, because they can't. As far as kidnapping, black african slaves came from defeated warring tribes. The losers, instead of being killed on the spot, their hearts ripped out of their chest cavity and eaten, were instead marched to standing forts run by blacks and sold to them on the open market to countries all around the world. So you see, if slavery wasn't allowed in the United States, and elsewhere, every single black in this country would have never existed, because their gene pool would have been eliminated by the victorious tribe. Just like Mexico, we didn't get the "cream of the crop" from Africa. We got the losers.
Life isn't all wrapped up in a neat little bow, most of the time. When you grow up and decide to read a book or two, you might stop yapping about things you're ignorant about. Until then, try shutting up.
. Wow, someone has really mislead you if you think that this country was built by whites. Amazing nonsense you truly try to make out of historical facts. Kidnapping of Africans is true and making this country relevant with slavery work is the truth. When you really look at the facts, this country which I love is still based on abuse and explotation. From 1500 to the present time; Native(yes before and better than stupid youerepos...(Europeans), Africans, Chinese,(I do recall this once belong to Mexico by the way) and now Latino immigrants have made it what it is has become. Look at the Irish, Italians, Russians, Polaks and countless of other groups have made this country what it is...living off the immigrants and exploit, take advantage, and try to get rid of when convenient. These days things are different and you can take your ignorant and racist crap to a place who cares...not in this state or country that needs immigrants.
los123lbz

Long Beach, CA

#24 Jun 13, 2010
As for Catalina...it knows why it has continued to thrive. Dana R....puss^^ and all his stupidity can continue to take his nonsense to places with stupidity and share his opinion. As far as Catalina, it a great place and know it will reject this Dana's(girl name) philosophy and do what real loving and caring individuals do.
TnT

Bonfield, IL

#25 Jun 13, 2010
Purple Sage Rider wrote:
How about "guessing" as a result of their not speaking a lick of Ingles and having an affinity for everything Red, White, and Green while also expressing contempt for El Gabacho.
American's are dumb as dirt to give their country away but I don't blame Mexicans for taking it since no one's stopping them. What a gutless country.
Everything always comes to an END. They have awoken/awaken the sleeping giant ! Thanks to their arrogance and disrespect.
American tax payer

Okahumpka, FL

#27 Jun 13, 2010
yeh I would expect that from your kind
Boycott Sanctuary Cities wrote:
<quoted text>
we dont need your racist crap or immigration reform
we need
ENFORCEMENT REFORM
we have lots of laws now that need to be
ENFORCED
What good would it do to pass more laws if they dont enforce them ?
,,I,,ibtards
lol

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