Catalina Island adds thrill rides to historic attractions

The only zip line in LA & Orange County and Drops from 500 feet to 60 feet above sea level with one run that is 1,100 lineal feet long. Full Story
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Agent Orange

Westminster, CA

#1 May 31, 2010
I thought this was really cool until I read about the catus filled canyon. I would really hate for something to go wrong. Get the point?

Seriously have to wonder if this is going to attract more tourism to Avalon. As a boater, I prefer quiter areas on the West End of the Island where I can moor my boat and get a quiet night of sleep.
Stango

Long Beach, CA

#2 May 31, 2010
Maybe if they dropped the rates on the Catalina Express, and dropped hotel rates, maybe some of us could afford to go.$70 round trip per person is a little outrageous for a one hour boat ride. Not to mention a motel room SHARING a bathroom is $140 during the week. Come on now.

No thanks.
Ex Sea Explorer

Long Beach, CA

#3 May 31, 2010
I did this at the Isthmus in the late 70's while with the Sea Explorers.

We tied one end of a long rope to a tree and the other end to a boat.

End result was a splashdown. Great fun.
joe

Los Angeles, CA

#4 May 31, 2010
1,000$+ for the weekend at Avalon.

70$ to get there
400$ for a room
125$ for a cabana
200$ on food
and 80$ for 2 min of thrill ride?
The problem is not that the island is boring, it is that it is known as as an expensive tourist trap.

Catalina Island needs to adopt the "McDonald's business model" of charging lower prices for their services and make lots of sales instead of setting prices so high those same services sit unused.
fatso

Long Beach, CA

#5 May 31, 2010
Each paying customer is required to sign a waiver and weigh between 60 and 245 pounds.

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Now I know why the PT didn't ask Tim Grobaty to write this story.
icouldusesomehel p

Downey, CA

#6 May 31, 2010
I would go if they offered buffalo slaughter the "indian way".

Since: Jul 09

Long Beach, CA

#7 May 31, 2010
joe wrote:
1,000$+ for the weekend at Avalon.
70$ to get there
400$ for a room
125$ for a cabana
200$ on food
and 80$ for 2 min of thrill ride?
The problem is not that the island is boring, it is that it is known as as an expensive tourist trap.
Catalina Island needs to adopt the "McDonald's business model" of charging lower prices for their services and make lots of sales instead of setting prices so high those same services sit unused.
Joe I totally agree. My friends always ask about going to Catalina because they have never been, but I always discourage it because of the price. As you said, the Catalina Express is $70 per person round trip, zip line $89, then food and souvenirs and maybe a hotel room could cost you easily hundreds of dollars just for a weekend! I would rather drive to Vegas with a full tank costing $60, cheap hotel off the strip and use the rest for gambling and eating. Catalina's prices are still too high. What type of crowd are they trying to recruit to the island?
please

Fullerton, CA

#8 May 31, 2010
joe wrote:
1,000$+ for the weekend at Avalon.
70$ to get there
400$ for a room
125$ for a cabana
200$ on food
and 80$ for 2 min of thrill ride?
The problem is not that the island is boring, it is that it is known as as an expensive tourist trap.
Catalina Island needs to adopt the "McDonald's business model" of charging lower prices for their services and make lots of sales instead of setting prices so high those same services sit unused.
Unfortunately, they HAVE somewhat adapted the "McDonald's business model." That's why the illegal immigrants who work at the hotels are spewing a ton of anchor babies, and that's why they have a hispanic gang problem on the island.
For you to assert that the "McDonald's business plan" is preferable under any circumstance means you're either stupid, or just plain evil.
lol

Fullerton, CA

#9 May 31, 2010
Renabro wrote:
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Joe I totally agree. My friends always ask about going to Catalina because they have never been, but I always discourage it because of the price. As you said, the Catalina Express is $70 per person round trip, zip line $89, then food and souvenirs and maybe a hotel room could cost you easily hundreds of dollars just for a weekend! I would rather drive to Vegas with a full tank costing $60, cheap hotel off the strip and use the rest for gambling and eating. Catalina's prices are still too high. What type of crowd are they trying to recruit to the island?
You're advocating losing at least just as much money, driving to Vegas to satisfy your hooker and gambling needs. Just be honest: you don't have a good enough job to make enough money so that Catalina's base prices for services isn't prohibitive for you.
pandora

Long Beach, CA

#11 May 31, 2010
Glad to see the island is trying to go more upscale. Hopefully this will lead to world class accommodations and restaurants. I can't believe there are people that are complaining about a $70 boat ride. If you are that cheap stay home and have McDonalds for dinner.
Shade Garden Plans

Long Beach, CA

#12 May 31, 2010
There are some beautiful shade gardens on this island.

http://shadegardenplans.com/

Since: Jul 09

Long Beach, CA

#13 May 31, 2010
lol wrote:
<quoted text>
You're advocating losing at least just as much money, driving to Vegas to satisfy your hooker and gambling needs. Just be honest: you don't have a good enough job to make enough money so that Catalina's base prices for services isn't prohibitive for you.
Just stick to the topic at hand. Yes, I like gambling and if I want to blow it on the blackjack table I will. What I spend in a week in Las Vegas, I would spend in 1 day on Catalina. That's all I was saying.

Since: Jul 09

Long Beach, CA

#14 May 31, 2010
please wrote:
<quoted text>
Unfortunately, they HAVE somewhat adapted the "McDonald's business model." That's why the illegal immigrants who work at the hotels are spewing a ton of anchor babies, and that's why they have a hispanic gang problem on the island.
For you to assert that the "McDonald's business plan" is preferable under any circumstance means you're either stupid, or just plain evil.
I heard on the news about Catalina's gang problem. How did that happen? The island isn't big enough for gangs.
joe

Los Angeles, CA

#15 May 31, 2010
please wrote:
<quoted text>
Unfortunately, they HAVE somewhat adapted the "McDonald's business model." That's why the illegal immigrants who work at the hotels are spewing a ton of anchor babies, and that's why they have a hispanic gang problem on the island.
For you to assert that the "McDonald's business plan" is preferable under any circumstance means you're either stupid, or just plain evil.
We are not talking about a tropical paradise here, hell except for the ocean Avalon is just another LA suburban city 20 miles from LB with all the same problems. You can try and dress it up and raise prices thinking the upper class will go there ,but they won't come to a place that looks like San Gabriel Canyon but with the most polluted water in So Cal(worst than LB) and charges prices like Disneyland. I got to say parts of Catalina are nice but it is what it is, over priced.

And by the way Thurston Howell, the businesses that have survived and done well during our economic downturn are Mc Donalds, Walmart Costco etc.
stewie griffin

Los Angeles, CA

#16 May 31, 2010
pandora wrote:
Glad to see the island is trying to go more upscale. Hopefully this will lead to world class accommodations and restaurants. I can't believe there are people that are complaining about a $70 boat ride. If you are that cheap stay home and have McDonalds for dinner.
Guess you have never been there.
DUKE

United States

#17 Jun 1, 2010
[quote]"Catalina is in the midst of a rejuvenation," said Brad Wilson, a spokesman for Santa Catalina Island Co. "It is not the same place you visited when you were a child, or even compared to two years ago." [/quote}

The Zip line is going to be a no go during the winter. A good winter storm will wipe out the new improvements such as new sand being washed away at Descanso.All these improvements are good for 3 months ( June-August) No one is going to be hanging out at Descanso Beach in (Nov,Dec, Jan, Feb, March, April, May), too cold and cloudy. SCICO is trying to re-invent the wheel and it is not going to work.
Heberts folly

Torrance, CA

#18 Jun 1, 2010
Our last trip we were chased off the walk at night by the gangs and gang fights. Also very little english spoken and you will find yourself unselcome in most restaurants unless you speak spanish.
We will never go back. total waste of money under these conditions.
Duke

San Marino, CA

#19 Jun 1, 2010
Heberts folly wrote:
Our last trip we were chased off the walk at night by the gangs and gang fights. Also very little english spoken and you will find yourself unselcome in most restaurants unless you speak spanish.
We will never go back. total waste of money under these conditions.
I suggest you write or email the city council, the Catalina Chamber of Commerce or the Santa Catalina Island Company to let your concerns be known.

Catalina Chamber of Commerce
Wayne G. Griffin, ACE, President & Chief Executive Officer:
wgriffin@CatalinaChamber.com

Avalon City Council
Bob Kennedy, Mayor
scubaluvcatalina@att.net

Michael Ponce, Mayor Pro Tem
michaelponce@ymail.com

Sue Rikalo Council Member
sue@suerikalo.com

Tim Winslow, Council Member
winslow@catalinaisp.com

Ralph Morrow Jr., Council Member
ralphmorrow@catalinaisp.com

Santa Catalina Island Co.
dsidars@scico.com
OldGuysRule

Long Beach, CA

#20 Jun 1, 2010
The zip line does sound fun, but I suspect the boaters will use it more than most.

$70 isn't really that bad of a deal. It cost me $250 to power over and back at 8 knots --$500 if I do a fast round trip.

The problems with Avalon are:

1) That the harbor isn't really protected. Whenever there are Santa Ana winds they kick everyone out of the harbor becasue of the crazy waves. They need to expand the harbor.

2) Water in the harbor is the dirtiest in California and it's not from boaters. They need to find out the cause of this which is probably drains from the city.

3) Somehow a population of strange late night low-lifes inhabit the island, including gangs. Close the cheap lowlife bars and raise prices on alcohol.

4) All the boat moorings are privately owned and it takes at least twenty years on a waiting list to buy one. Most of the moorings are owned by rich boaters from Newport and Marian Del Rey. If you are just any Joe boater, you have to arrive on Sunday, the week before, if you want to get a mooring in the harbor. If public money and resources manage the harbor, how can moorings be owned by anyone? They should be operated like campsites. First come first serve or by reservation.

To have real fun in Avalon, you have to be one of the boaters. But it is setup so only the few who own the moorings can enjoy it. It's a very secret society of very rich boaters.
growabrain

United States

#21 Jun 1, 2010
Renabro wrote:
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I heard on the news about Catalina's gang problem. How did that happen? The island isn't big enough for gangs.
Read the post. Catalina hotels/restaurants ship in illegals, pay low wages, the illegals have babies, the babies grow up watching TV, getting down with the bling bling, decide working like a dog for chump change like their parents isn't for them, talk amongst themselves, don't really assimilate, and join a gang.
Catalina deserves what they're getting. They asked for it by importing illegals.

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