Carson looks to raise sales tax to ma...

Carson looks to raise sales tax to make up for budget shortfall

There are 93 comments on the Daily Breeze story from Aug 4, 2010, titled Carson looks to raise sales tax to make up for budget shortfall. In it, Daily Breeze reports that:

A Carson budget balanced only on the promise that rank-and-file city employees will accept salary cuts was passed late Tuesday by the City Council, which also decided to push for a one-cent hike in the city's sales tax rate.

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Carson Speaks out

Los Angeles, CA

#1 Aug 4, 2010
Lets start by getting rid of the over payed employees 1. Jerry Groomes is the manager of what he has failed at his position fire him 300K per year 2. sell all the land you have been land banking 3. get rid of Karen Avilla she has cost us way to much money on penalties for not budgeting and turning in late reports yes surprise we are in the red bigtime. 4.stop giving away money to stupid business that dont have the ability to pay taxes like cormier and carson nissan oh here is 9 mil and you dont have to pay us taxes because we will increase the sales tax on everyone else 5. vote out the in mature council.jim dont buy anymore electronic gadgets that the others wont play with you. finally lets make some parking and ticket sales taxes from the home depot. Thats just for starts. everyone else that goes to work for our city and earns there pay should not take a cut and should look forward to a raise for good performance, everyone else lie up do your job or get the F out of our city!
Carson Speaks out

Los Angeles, CA

#2 Aug 4, 2010
line up do your job or get the F out of our city!
Richard Hernandez

Los Angeles, CA

#3 Aug 4, 2010
BP pay your dues, Watson Land no more tax breaks, Carson Companies pay your share, LNR-Hopkins give us back the 69 million, Cormier give us back the money if you can run a business and make money shut it down, Nissan give us back the money Why because the leadership all failed to see we needed to take care of our house first. Then lets fire everyone who agreed to all this BS! City attorney you suck what kind of advice can we get from you that does not cost us millions? Mr. Groomes go back to San Diego your fired Jim Dear and Council you must resign you failed.

Since: May 10

Van Nuys, CA

#4 Aug 4, 2010
What is so great about Carson and what do they provide that is worth one of the highest sales taxes in the nation? I'm sure with this news, all sorts of retail establishments will be chomping at the bit to move into town.

Unlike city hall us citizens know you cut back on spending when you're out of money, not shake down all your neighbors so you can get that fancy new purse you've been dying to buy.

“cracker-barrel philosopher”

Since: Jan 08

Wilmington/Carson/San Pedro

#6 Aug 4, 2010
If the city relies on big-ticket sales for revenue, it may be miscalculating the expected revenue increase from raising the sales tax rate. In fact, if the impact is negative the problem may be even more negative if sales losses beget business failures and moves out of the city.
Where are u

Los Angeles, CA

#7 Aug 4, 2010
'Here we go', where are you now? You have been very quiet on the blogs. Now all the lies you told people to vote for Measure C are slapping you in the face.

After Measure C, the city is still asking for handouts from the CITIZENS. Are you union people going to team up the Watsonland and Carson Companies to support a sales tax? The Union will be alone this time, as Watsonland don't have a reason to back you and your propaganda (lies) put out by you.

Everything the NO ON MEASURE C people said has come to past. The city raised fees anyway. The No on Measure C people told you the city's spending would not stop and the now look... the city has now CUT the VITAL services (i.e. sheriffs [park patrol], special events, senior services, etc.)

I hope this time Carson WAKE UP AND STOP VOTING FROM LIES and find out what's really going on before they vote themselve ANOTHER TAX!
Stopthemadness

Gardena, CA

#8 Aug 4, 2010
I will not support this tax hike. I will shop in other areas like Torrance.
Carsonite

United States

#9 Aug 4, 2010
They got their 2% Utility User Tax, now this? Don't hit Carson residents with another tax increase!
Tom

Los Angeles, CA

#10 Aug 4, 2010
Well this is bad for me. I work in Carson and will have to now stop spending any money in Carson business's as a matter of principle (not supporting out of control government spending whether it is local, state or federal).

Besides no longer shopping at South Bay Pavilion (Target, IKEA, Sears) I will have to find a new PEP Boys, a new car wash place, a new Quizno's and have to convince my co-workers to go to Long Beach or Wilmington for lunch. Luckly we are all getting sick of Five Guys anyway.
Here We Go

Manhattan Beach, CA

#11 Aug 4, 2010
Where are u wrote:
'Here we go', where are you now? You have been very quiet on the blogs. Now all the lies you told people to vote for Measure C are slapping you in the face.
After Measure C, the city is still asking for handouts from the CITIZENS. Are you union people going to team up the Watsonland and Carson Companies to support a sales tax? The Union will be alone this time, as Watsonland don't have a reason to back you and your propaganda (lies) put out by you.
Everything the NO ON MEASURE C people said has come to past. The city raised fees anyway. The No on Measure C people told you the city's spending would not stop and the now look... the city has now CUT the VITAL services (i.e. sheriffs [park patrol], special events, senior services, etc.)
I hope this time Carson WAKE UP AND STOP VOTING FROM LIES and find out what's really going on before they vote themselve ANOTHER TAX!
I haven't been quiet! I just avoided most of the recent useless Carson threads.

Let me correct a statement you made. The "Measure C" people didn't claim the city spending would stop...in fact, the city spent more last year than ever before. I recall at least one council member that made statements before and after Measure C passed along the lines that spending would go on as usual. But I never did...in fact, when I heard those statements, I cringed.

The problem is that NONE of the council members are fiscally responsible or have much business sense. A different council member than the one I referenced above made a statement that the city was now out of the red days after Measure C passed. We didn't collect a nickel until August or September, and who could tell how much money was to come in!

Of course services were cut....we are in an economic downturn. There will be furloughs and layoffs. There have been cuts in services, and many fees went up. Most of the fees that I looked at that were increased still are lower than what other cities and organizations charge. Face it, this city has given away things for free (fee waivers on rentals, grants, fine arts subsidies, etc) or too cheap (sports fees, room rentals, etc.) for years. It was fine in boom times, but too much of the revenue of this city was dependent on car dealerships.

As to the park patrol, let me preface that I frequent the parks a lot...I have kids that play sports. I am aware of the tragic event that led to the formation of the park patrol, and it is a plus to have a program if you can afford it. Unfortunately, The city can no longer afford it.

The city already spends something like $15 million on regular sheriff patrol, another $3-4 million on a sheriff gang task force AND almost a million on the park patrol (which was only 3-4 cars during park operating hours). They moved money around and it still exists but I think only 2 cars will operate.

Anyway, what I experienced from seeing the park patrol "in action" is that they were glorified parking enforcement. I rarely saw them get out of the patrol car....they stopped in parking lots, gave tickets, and ran license plate numbers.

If you watched the budget hearings, which I did religiously, you know that the park operating hours have been cut and the part time workers throughout the city have reduced budgets of 15-20%. But you want to continue paying 4 "parking violation" patrol cars almost $1 million?

I'm not really supportive of the sales tax increase, but let the people vote. Hopefully some new council people will be making decisions on how to spend the city's money as well.
Here We Go

Manhattan Beach, CA

#12 Aug 4, 2010
Tom wrote:
Well this is bad for me. I work in Carson and will have to now stop spending any money in Carson business's as a matter of principle (not supporting out of control government spending whether it is local, state or federal).
Besides no longer shopping at South Bay Pavilion (Target, IKEA, Sears) I will have to find a new PEP Boys, a new car wash place, a new Quizno's and have to convince my co-workers to go to Long Beach or Wilmington for lunch. Luckly we are all getting sick of Five Guys anyway.
Where are you going to spend your money if you aren't going to support out of control government spending on a local, state or federal level? Shangri-La?

Why punish the businesses?
Here We Go

Manhattan Beach, CA

#13 Aug 4, 2010
Stopthemadness wrote:
I will not support this tax hike. I will shop in other areas like Torrance.
First of all, it has to pass. But go ahead and drive 15 extra miles round-trip to another Target to save 30ยข!
Boy Cott Carson

Los Angeles, CA

#14 Aug 4, 2010
Si Se Puede, spend your hard earn money in Wilmington so that Janice Hahn can miss handle more funds, Dang this world is gone crazy, so lets move to Mars and F that planet up too.b Big OG Carson
Pinoy

Los Angeles, CA

#15 Aug 4, 2010
What es happen we looking on likey the Pilipines now huh we lobe you Elito Santamaria you good por us people likey Pete Paharro, com on Yim Dearest Do no more sales tax, and ah black guy and girl you too and ah jully Raberst too ok now
Where are u

Los Angeles, CA

#16 Aug 5, 2010
Here We Go wrote:
<quoted text>
I haven't been quiet! I just avoided most of the recent useless Carson threads.
Let me correct a statement you made. The "Measure C" people didn't claim the city spending would stop...in fact, the city spent more last year than ever before. I recall at least one council member that made statements before and after Measure C passed along the lines that spending would go on as usual. But I never did...in fact, when I heard those statements, I cringed.
The problem is that NONE of the council members are fiscally responsible or have much business sense. A different council member than the one I referenced above made a statement that the city was now out of the red days after Measure C passed. We didn't collect a nickel until August or September, and who could tell how much money was to come in!
Of course services were cut....we are in an economic downturn. There will be furloughs and layoffs. There have been cuts in services, and many fees went up. Most of the fees that I looked at that were increased still are lower than what other cities and organizations charge. Face it, this city has given away things for free (fee waivers on rentals, grants, fine arts subsidies, etc) or too cheap (sports fees, room rentals, etc.) for years. It was fine in boom times, but too much of the revenue of this city was dependent on car dealerships.
As to the park patrol, let me preface that I frequent the parks a lot...I have kids that play sports. I am aware of the tragic event that led to the formation of the park patrol, and it is a plus to have a program if you can afford it. Unfortunately, The city can no longer afford it.
The city already spends something like $15 million on regular sheriff patrol, another $3-4 million on a sheriff gang task force AND almost a million on the park patrol (which was only 3-4 cars during park operating hours). They moved money around and it still exists but I think only 2 cars will operate.
Anyway, what I experienced from seeing the park patrol "in action" is that they were glorified parking enforcement. I rarely saw them get out of the patrol car....they stopped in parking lots, gave tickets, and ran license plate numbers.
If you watched the budget hearings, which I did religiously, you know that the park operating hours have been cut and the part time workers throughout the city have reduced budgets of 15-20%. But you want to continue paying 4 "parking violation" patrol cars almost $1 million?
I'm not really supportive of the sales tax increase, but let the people vote. Hopefully some new council people will be making decisions on how to spend the city's money as well.
NOW YOU ARE REPEATING NO ON MEASURE C MESSAGE. A little too late, AFSCME damage is done and the lies have surfaced.

In one statement you say you don't know if you support a sales tax, than in another you state the tax has to happen. If you can STAND for truth you will fall or fail everytime.

I do appreciate you honesty about how you feel about the elected official though. We agree on some things. Julie Raber is already talking about how we can have our senior events and special events because Carson is "unique".

In one area Carson want to claim uniqueness, while when the message does not convey the election officials message we are like all other cities that are in a deficit. Every city can claim vital services, as they do everytime when they want to tax the citizens.
Where are u

Los Angeles, CA

#17 Aug 5, 2010
I meant then in another, and can't STAND, and lastly; I meant to say elected not election officials.

Just to be clear.
CARLOSLAX

Hermosa Beach, CA

#18 Aug 5, 2010
I SAY HELL NO THESE PEOPLE MUST BE ON CRACK, LIVE WITHIN YOUR MEANS JUST LIKE WE DO
YOU SHOULD BE OFFERING A TAX REBATE FOR PEOPLE SHOPPING IN YOUR TOWN
THIS WOULD INLREASE SALES AND REVENUE
boy tupak

Carson, CA

#19 Aug 5, 2010
lay off all elected officials
boy tupak

Carson, CA

#20 Aug 5, 2010
anyway nothing to buy in Carson.LOL
boy tupak

Carson, CA

#21 Aug 5, 2010
we will go to Arizona. Carson is just like Arizona. they do not know how to take care of people living in their city.

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