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Obama pitches energy plan in Northeast Ohio

There are 273 comments on the Akron Beacon Journal story from Aug 5, 2008, titled Obama pitches energy plan in Northeast Ohio. In it, Akron Beacon Journal reports that:

AUSTINTOWN TWP.: Sen. Barack Obama continued presenting his proposal for the nation's energy crisis this morning at the Austintown Fitch High School gymnasium.

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billy

Herndon, VA

#275 Aug 18, 2008
He talks about a plan but does he really have any idea what he is talking about? I'm not saying McCain does either, heck McCain will talk about something then ten minutes later forget he every said anything. Obama really has no clue on how to run this country, he is too new, and maybe in another 4 years he may be good. And McCain, yes he would know how to run the country but I'm sure he has forgotten about it by now. He is too old; I bet his underwear has front and back written on it with a picture draw so he can tell what are the front and the back. This guy should be retired, heck after 68 - 70 all politicians need to retire, they are not up with the times and they need to enjoy their golden years. And I know some people think this is BS but think about it, your parents or grandparent who is the same age as McCain, do you want them to keep making decisions for you over the next four years? What if they are in a nursing home I'm sure they can make the proper life decisions for you. Now choosing between these two guys is going to be hard, I don't think either is able. I'm want to see who the VPs are going to be. Or see if someone with a head on their shoulders will decide to run against these two.
The ONE

Bedford, OH

#276 Aug 21, 2008
GOPHater wrote:
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It's a shame that a guy who writes books like this to shill for the right wing, a guy whom everyone knows has an agenda, a guy who give authorship a bad name, is even being discussed as anything other than what he is, a piece of crap.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =oWS5ijLELRUXX
No. What the shame is, is that the CHOSEN ONE could make this all go away by simply answering the questions raised. But all we get is more name calling, attacking the author, if the author is telling stories, put the proof out there and make this all go away overnight.

Why is it HE will not show a certified copy of his birth certificate? Does he have some thing to hide?

Why will HE not disclose his selective service registration number? It is not that hard for him to find out, my brother who is going on 50, got his off the web by filling in a few things on a form, in 5 minutes.

At first. I did not buy into all this crap about his past, but the longer this goes on, with no answers, the more it looks like there might be something that he is trying to hide.
Che

Medina, OH

#277 Aug 21, 2008
The ONE wrote:
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Why is it HE will not show a certified copy of his birth certificate? Does he have some thing to hide?
Why will HE not disclose his selective service registration number? It is not that hard for him to find out, my brother who is going on 50, got his off the web by filling in a few things on a form, in 5 minutes.
At first. I did not buy into all this crap about his past, but the longer this goes on, with no answers, the more it looks like there might be something that he is trying to hide.
His birth certificate has been established over and over. If you still don't believe it, you are a conspircay theorist nutjob or simply unwilling to accept the truth because your mind is already made up. Here it is again:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/artic...

Selective Service number? Are you kidding me? He was born in 1961. What possible relevance could that have? I think Cheney set the whole draft bar pretty low when he said he got his deferments because he had "better things to do" than go to Vietnam. Carumba.
Obumma

Canton, OH

#278 Aug 21, 2008
Che wrote:
<quoted text>
His birth certificate has been established over and over. If you still don't believe it, you are a conspircay theorist nutjob or simply unwilling to accept the truth because your mind is already made up. Here it is again:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/artic...
Selective Service number? Are you kidding me? He was born in 1961. What possible relevance could that have? I think Cheney set the whole draft bar pretty low when he said he got his deferments because he had "better things to do" than go to Vietnam. Carumba.
Just for you sausage Man.

Subject: Buchanan to Obama

by Patrick J. Buchanan

Barack says we need to have a conversation about race in America. Fair enough. But this time, it has to be a two-way conversation. White America needs to be heard from, not just lectured to. This time, the Silent Majority needs to have its convictions, grievances, and demands heard. And among them are these:

First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known. Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.

Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the '60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream.

Governments, businesses, and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks -- with affirmative action, contract set-asides, and quotas -- to advance black applicants over white applicants.

Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools, and individuals all over America have donated time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement, and nursing homes for blacks.

We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude??

Barack talks about new 'ladders of opportunity' for blacks.

Let him go to Altoona and Johnstown, and ask the white kids in Catholic schools how many were visited lately by Ivy League recruiters handing out scholarships for 'deserving' white kids.

Is white America responsible for the fact that the crime and incarceration rates for African-Americans are seven times those of white America? Is it really white America's fault that illegitimacy in the African-American community has hit 70 percent and the black dropout rate from high schools in some cities has reached 50 percent?

Is that the fault of white America or, first and foremost, a failure of the black community itself?

As for racism, its ugliest manifestation is in interracial crime, and especially interracial crimes of violence. Is Barack Obama aware that while white criminals choose black victims 3 percent of the time, black criminals choose white victims 45 percent of the time?

Is Barack aware that black-on-white rapes are 100 times more common than the reverse, that black-on-white robberies were 139 times as common in the first three years of this decade as the reverse?

We have all heard ad nauseam from the Rev. Al about Tawana Brawley, the Duke rape case and Jena. And all turned out to be hoaxes. But about the epidemic of black assaults on whites that are real, we hear nothing.

Sorry, Barack, some of us have heard it all before, about 40 years and 40 trillion tax dollars ago.
George N

Fountain Inn, SC

#279 Aug 21, 2008
Obumma wrote:
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Just for you sausage Man.
Subject: Buchanan to Obama
by Patrick J. Buchanan
Barack says we need to have a conversation about race in America. Fair enough. But this time, it has to be a two-way conversation. White America needs to be heard from, not just lectured to. This time, the Silent Majority needs to have its convictions, grievances, and demands heard. And among them are these:
First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known. Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.
Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the '60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream.
Governments, businesses, and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks -- with affirmative action, contract set-asides, and quotas -- to advance black applicants over white applicants.
Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools, and individuals all over America have donated time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement, and nursing homes for blacks.
We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude??
Barack talks about new 'ladders of opportunity' for blacks.
Let him go to Altoona and Johnstown, and ask the white kids in Catholic schools how many were visited lately by Ivy League recruiters handing out scholarships for 'deserving' white kids.
Is white America responsible for the fact that the crime and incarceration rates for African-Americans are seven times those of white America? Is it really white America's fault that illegitimacy in the African-American community has hit 70 percent and the black dropout rate from high schools in some cities has reached 50 percent?
Is that the fault of white America or, first and foremost, a failure of the black community itself?
As for racism, its ugliest manifestation is in interracial crime, and especially interracial crimes of violence. Is Barack Obama aware that while white criminals choose black victims 3 percent of the time, black criminals choose white victims 45 percent of the time?
Is Barack aware that black-on-white rapes are 100 times more common than the reverse, that black-on-white robberies were 139 times as common in the first three years of this decade as the reverse?
We have all heard ad nauseam from the Rev. Al about Tawana Brawley, the Duke rape case and Jena. And all turned out to be hoaxes. But about the epidemic of black assaults on whites that are real, we hear nothing.
Sorry, Barack, some of us have heard it all before, about 40 years and 40 trillion tax dollars ago.
Never in history have a people done so little when given so much.
OOOOOO Bumma

Canton, OH

#280 Aug 22, 2008
Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton like one another. Obama had Clinton's cell number on speed dial, and vice versa. They maintained stable, even good, personal relations during the primary campaign. When things got ugly, Obama stepped up several times to defend Clinton, and the senator from New York got what might have been the loudest and most sincere round of the campaign when she seemed to suggest at the close of a contentious primary-season debate that she would be willing to join an Obama-led "dream ticket."

But we always knew that the "what to do with Bill Clinton" challenge would steer Obama away from an easy or casual selection of Hillary Clinton as his vice presidential running mate. Again and again through the primary season, it was Bill who said things that seemed to inflame the competition and move both camps to their respective corners. And, of course, there is the fundamental question of where to put an ex-president in an administration that supposed to be all about change.

So the line became: Obama would only pick Clinton if he comes to the conclusion that he needs her badly enough to accept not only his former rival but the complexities that her husband brings to the equation and, of course, their considerable baggage.

Well, the latest polls seem to suggest that Obama finds himself in a circumstance that lends itself to the Clinton consideration.

Despite the fact that the miserable state of the U.S. economy shaped by eight years of oilman budgeting should be handing the election to Obama, he's either tied or behind in a number of key state and national surveys. The new Reuters/Zogby poll has Republican John McCain leading Obama 46-41. Gallup and LA Times surveys have it much closer, with Obama slightly up. But these are not encouraging number for the Democrats.

Russian tanks in Georgia, regime change in Pakistan and the general uncertainty about whether to worry more about a new Cold War or the mismanagement of the old war on terror seems to have caused a good many Americans to edge toward McCain. That may not be reasonable, or smart or fair. But, to employ the phrase of the season, "It is what it is."

Barack Obama might just need Hillary Clinton.

Clinton, whether appropriately or not, seen by a great many Americans as someone who knows her way around the international stage. In fact, members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee who are not fans of Clinton have told me that she has far better international connections than McCain or Obama.

She also has some pretty good connections in the swing states of Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

Then there is the whole "dream ticket" thing.

If Obama takes the stage in front of the Old State Capital in Springfield, Illinois, Saturday with Evan Bayh at his side, it will be news -- but not very exciting news. If he does so with Joe Biden, it will be bigger new -- but it's not like Biden brings the "wow" factor.

If Obama takes the stage with Clinton at his side, it will be the dominant news story of the weekend, the convention and perhaps of the fall campaign.

Indeed, it could create that wave of excitement that Obama needs to have not just a triumphal convention but a triumphal campaign.

So that's the Hillary Clinton scenario, with all of its challenges, complexities and unpleasantnesses.

One does not have to like Clinton, or even believe that Clinton will ultimately join a "dream ticket," to suspect that as the Obama camp reviews the latest polls, they might be spinning the scenario one last time.

Obama and his aides may reject the option -- because of Bill, because the former First Lady does not say "change," or because of concerns that a ticket made up of an African-American man and a woman might be too much change for the electorate.

But let's presume, out of respect for the savvy of the Obama team, that they are considering it.
No One Knows

Bedford, OH

#281 Aug 22, 2008
Che wrote:
<quoted text>
Selective Service number? Are you kidding me? He was born in 1961. What possible relevance could that have?
"under the authority of the Military Selective Service Act (Act of June 24, 1948, c. 625, 62 Stat. 604, as amended; 50 U.S.C. App. 451 et seq.):

A man must be registered to be eligible for jobs in the executive branch of the federal government and the U.S. Postal Service. Proof of registration is required only for men born after December 31, 1959.

The registration requirement was suspended in April 1975. It was resumed again in 1980 by President Carter in response to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. Registration continues today as a hedge against underestimating the number of servicemen needed in a future crisis."

What is the executive branch of government?
Che

Medina, OH

#282 Aug 22, 2008
No One Knows wrote:
<quoted text>
"under the authority of the Military Selective Service Act (Act of June 24, 1948, c. 625, 62 Stat. 604, as amended; 50 U.S.C. App. 451 et seq.):
A man must be registered to be eligible for jobs in the executive branch of the federal government and the U.S. Postal Service. Proof of registration is required only for men born after December 31, 1959.
The registration requirement was suspended in April 1975. It was resumed again in 1980 by President Carter in response to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. Registration continues today as a hedge against underestimating the number of servicemen needed in a future crisis."
What is the executive branch of government?
Great, but who cares what Obama's number was?

Since: Feb 08

Birmingham, AL

#283 Aug 22, 2008
No One Knows wrote:
<quoted text>
"under the authority of the Military Selective Service Act (Act of June 24, 1948, c. 625, 62 Stat. 604, as amended; 50 U.S.C. App. 451 et seq.):
A man must be registered to be eligible for jobs in the executive branch of the federal government ...
federal government...

what is being a Senator?

You also can't get financial aid for college without being registered for selective service, which Obama did.
Che

Medina, OH

#284 Aug 22, 2008
Reverend Mikey wrote:
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federal government...
what is being a Senator?
You also can't get financial aid for college without being registered for selective service, which Obama did.
You have got to be kidding me. What's next? He passed someone on the Beltway using the carpool lane? Carumba.
O Bumma

Canton, OH

#285 Aug 22, 2008
NEW AMENDMENTS TO THE CONSTITUTION
This is probably the best e-mail I've seen in a long,
long time. The following has been attributed to State
Representative Mitchell Kaye from GA. This guy should run
for President one day.
'We the sensible people of the United States, in an
attempt to help everyone get along, restore some semblance
of justice, avoid more riots, keep our nation safe, promote
positive behavior, and secure the blessings of debt-free
liberty to ourselves and our great-great-great-grandchildre n,
hereby try one more time to ordain and establish some common sense
guidelines for the terminally whiny, guilt ridden, and delusional.
We hold these truths to be self evident: that a whole lot of people
are confused by the Bill of Rights and are so dim they require a
Bill of NON-Rights.'
ARTICLE I: You do not have the right to a new car, big screen TV,
or any other form of wealth.
More power to you if you can legally acquire them, but no
one is guaranteeing anything.
ARTICLE II: You do not have the right to never be offended.
This country is based on freedom, and that means freedom for
everyone, not just you! You may leave the room, turn the
channel, express a different opinion, etc.; but the world
is full of idiots, and probably always will be.
ARTICLE III: You do not have the right to be free from
harm. If you stick a screwdriver in your eye, learn to be
more careful; do not expect the tool manufacturer to make
you and all your relatives independently wealthy.
ARTICLE IV: You do not have the right to free food and
housing. Americans are the most charitable people to be
found, and will gladly help anyone in need, but we are
quickly growing weary of subsidizing generation after
generation of professional couch potatoes who achieve nothing
more than the creation of another generation of professional
couch potatoes. This is one of my pet peeves; get an education
and go to work. Don't expect everyone else to take care
of you!
ARTICLE V: You do not have the right to free health care.
That would be nice, but if it would turn out the same way as
current public housing, we're not interested in public
health care.
ARTICLE VI: You do not have the right to physically harm
other people. If you kidnap, rape, intentionally maim, or
kill someone, don't be surprised if the rest of us want
to see you put away for the rest of your sorry life.
ARTICLE VII: You do not have the right to the possessions
of others. If you rob, cheat, or coerce away the goods or
services of other citizens, don't be surprised if the
rest of us get together and lock you away in a place where
you still won't have the right to a big screen color TV
or a life of leisure.
ARTICLE VIII: You do not have the right to a job. All of
us sure want you to have a job, and will gladly help you
along in hard times, but we expect you to take advantage of
the opportunities of education and vocational training laid
before you to make yourself useful.(AMEN!)
ARTICLE IX: You do not have the right to happiness. Being
an American means that you have the right to PURSUE
happiness, which by the way, is a lot easier if you are
unencumbered by an over abundance of idiotic laws created by
those of you who were confused by the Bill of Rights.
ARTICLE X: This is an English speaking country. We
don't care where you are from, English is our language.
Learn it or go back to wherever you came from!
(and last but not least...)
ARTICLE XI: You do not have the right to change our
country's history or heritage. This country was founded
on the belief in one God. You are given the freedom to
believe in any religion, any faith, or no faith at all, with
no fear of persecution. The phrase IN GOD WE TRUST is part
of our heritage and history, and if you are uncomfortable
with it, TOUGH!
George N

Fountain Inn, SC

#286 Aug 22, 2008
More wisdom from the anointed one:



Truly idiotic.
Che

Medina, OH

#287 Aug 22, 2008
George N wrote:
More wisdom from the anointed one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =I-IvjXnkHwAXX
Truly idiotic.
Idiotic to improve our infrastructure?

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