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Obama pitches energy plan in Northeast Ohio

There are 273 comments on the Akron Beacon Journal story from Aug 5, 2008, titled Obama pitches energy plan in Northeast Ohio. In it, Akron Beacon Journal reports that:

AUSTINTOWN TWP.: Sen. Barack Obama continued presenting his proposal for the nation's energy crisis this morning at the Austintown Fitch High School gymnasium.

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Averagejoe5

Akron, OH

#2 Aug 5, 2008
Whhoooooeeeeeeee!!! Yippppeeeeee!!!
He's going to increase mileage standards? Didn't Carter do that? He's going to give everyone a $1000 energy rebate? Who's paying for it? This guy is a huge double talker. A flip flopper and is making these promises just to get into office. Pelosi's boy. I hope you don't mind losing your retirement or 401k funds if they are invested in oil. A windfall profits tax is a bad idea. It will raise prices and put us right back where we were a month ago.
XDEM

Cuyahoga Falls, OH

#3 Aug 5, 2008
"Obama's new energy proposal included two "Flip Flops" from his past positions. It calls for the tapping of some of the nation's Strategic Petroleum Reserve to relieve prices at the pump. It also accepts limited new offshore drilling for oil, if done in an environmentally safe way and as part of a bipartisan energy compromise." - Keeping flipping

And after taxing the oil companies, they will produce less to keep below the tax level, employ fewer people and have less profit. Now the gas prices will rise even more. That sounds like a great plan. I think I will go put more air in my tires.
EMK Akron

AOL

#5 Aug 5, 2008
My mistake. As John McCain has been flippin and a-floppin like a fish on the dock, I assumed being called a flip-flopper was now a compliment.

The 'publicans better be careful trying this "flip-flop" mud-throwing again this election cycle. That's a knife that cuts both ways and McCain looks like a real bleeder.
Hagen

Kansas City, MO

#6 Aug 5, 2008
* McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as “an agent of intolerance” in 2002, but has since decided to cozy up to the man who said Americans “deserved” the 9/11 attacks.(Indeed, McCain has now hired Falwell’s debate coach.)

* McCain used to oppose Bush’s tax cuts for the very wealthy, but he reversed course in February.

* In 2000, McCain accused Texas businessmen Sam and Charles Wyly of being corrupt, spending “dirty money” to help finance Bush’s presidential campaign. McCain not only filed a complaint against the Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out at them publicly. In April, McCain reached out to the Wylys for support.

* McCain supported a major campaign-finance reform measure that bore his name. In June, he abandoned his own legislation.

* McCain used to think that Grover Norquist was a crook and a corrupt shill for dictators. Then McCain got serious about running for president and began to reconcile with Norquist.

* McCain took a firm line in opposition to torture, and then caved to White House demands.

* McCain gave up on his signature policy issue, campaign-finance reform, and won’t back the same provision he sponsored just a couple of years ago.

* McCain was against presidential candidates campaigning at Bob Jones University before he was for it.

* McCain was anti-ethanol. Now he’s pro-ethanol.

* McCain was both for and against state promotion of the Confederate flag.

* And now he’s both for and against overturning Roe v. Wade.
tom

Herndon, VA

#7 Aug 5, 2008
''If I'm elected president, I'm immediately going to give every working family a $1,000 energy rebate.''
Yeah right and his friends in congress will let this pass.
I waiting for next week he will be saying the opposite.
Both Obama and McCain are lying through their teeth, they don't care about America, only thing they are thinking about is filling their own pockets.
They will sit there and make all kinds of empty promises you know that all of it is just talk.
You can sit there and take up for these guys but to be honest you don't really know crap about them. All you know is what you hear on the news and what you get in the mail.
Nifong

New Philadelphia, OH

#10 Aug 5, 2008
Mileage standards are retarded. Auto companies meet these standards with a special OEM tire. Once you change tires, the vehicle no longer meets the mileage requirements. Also, when gas prices are high, the market pushes for better mileage. When gas prices are low, they produce undesirable vehicles.

1,000,000 Hybrids!!(Done with a Dr. Evil voice) Hybrids are bigger energy hogs to manufacture than a Ford F150 (battery and drivetrain are the main energy drivers). With normal driving habits, the hybrid does not make up the difference over the life of the car. So, using hybrids is less energy efficient than an F150.

There is no free lunch.
XDEM

Cuyahoga Falls, OH

#12 Aug 5, 2008
Hagen wrote:
* McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as “an agent of intolerance” in 2002, but has since decided to cozy up to the man who said Americans “deserved” the 9/11 attacks.(Indeed, McCain has now hired Falwell’s debate coach.)
* McCain used to oppose Bush’s tax cuts for the very wealthy, but he reversed course in February.
* In 2000, McCain accused Texas businessmen Sam and Charles Wyly of being corrupt, spending “dirty money” to help finance Bush’s presidential campaign. McCain not only filed a complaint against the Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out at them publicly. In April, McCain reached out to the Wylys for support.
* McCain supported a major campaign-finance reform measure that bore his name. In June, he abandoned his own legislation.
* McCain used to think that Grover Norquist was a crook and a corrupt shill for dictators. Then McCain got serious about running for president and began to reconcile with Norquist.
* McCain took a firm line in opposition to torture, and then caved to White House demands.
* McCain gave up on his signature policy issue, campaign-finance reform, and won’t back the same provision he sponsored just a couple of years ago.
* McCain was against presidential candidates campaigning at Bob Jones University before he was for it.
* McCain was anti-ethanol. Now he’s pro-ethanol.
* McCain was both for and against state promotion of the Confederate flag.
* And now he’s both for and against overturning Roe v. Wade.
Sounds more like a liberal every day. But the alternative will be devastating and I have kids to worry about. I can not leave a revolution for them to fight and that is what will happen when Mr. Obama turns this country into the new Cuba or Soviet Union. I pray every day that the country will see him for what he is.
Try It Again

Akron, OH

#13 Aug 5, 2008
Oil has fallen below $118 a barrel today. There has not been anymore drilling. The price is all a oil market rouge by the Big Oil Companies & Commodity players to be able to drill oil in Alaska & off the shores of the USA. Remember a vote for McCain is a vote for $4.00 a gallon gas and for Big Oil to maintain their high profits when you vote in November. BHO has a better plan that he spoke about today for our energy future.
XDEM

Cuyahoga Falls, OH

#14 Aug 5, 2008
Try It Again wrote:
Oil has fallen below $118 a barrel today. There has not been anymore drilling. The price is all a oil market rouge by the Big Oil Companies & Commodity players to be able to drill oil in Alaska & off the shores of the USA. Remember a vote for McCain is a vote for $4.00 a gallon gas and for Big Oil to maintain their high profits when you vote in November. BHO has a better plan that he spoke about today for our energy future.
YAWN!! Same old, Same Old
cellisis

Chesterfield, MO

#15 Aug 5, 2008
Obama is promoting what Bush is doing: handing out a rebate without solving the underline problem with economy or energy.

How different is Obama from Bush anyway?
Ryan

Akron, OH

#16 Aug 5, 2008
Averagejoe5 wrote:
Whhoooooeeeeeeee!!! Yippppeeeeee!!!
He's going to increase mileage standards? Didn't Carter do that?
Yes. And Carter asked us all to turn down the heat and wear sweaters in the winter.
Averagejoe5 wrote:
He's going to give everyone a $1000 energy rebate? Who's paying for it?
Obama proposes stealing the rebate from oil company profits...which basically means he'll be taking money out of your 401k and investments to pay for it, since the oil companies are publicly traded. That's not to mention that oil company profits aren't out of line with any other major industry. Which industry is going to get fleeced next?
Averagejoe5 wrote:
A windfall profits tax is a bad idea. It will raise prices and put us right back where we were a month ago.


You hit the nail on the head.
Che

Medina, OH

#17 Aug 5, 2008
XDEM wrote:
<quoted text>
Sounds more like a liberal every day. But the alternative will be devastating and I have kids to worry about. I can not leave a revolution for them to fight and that is what will happen when Mr. Obama turns this country into the new Cuba or Soviet Union. I pray every day that the country will see him for what he is.
Boo!
Ryan

Akron, OH

#18 Aug 5, 2008
Hagen wrote:
* McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as “an agent of intolerance” in 2002, but has since decided to cozy up to the man who said Americans “deserved” the 9/11 attacks.(Indeed, McCain has now hired Falwell’s debate coach.)
Jerry Falwell died more than a year ago. McCain can't cozy up to a dead man.
Hagen wrote:
McCain used to oppose Bush’s tax cuts for the very wealthy, but he reversed course in February.
The tax cuts were for all Americans, not just the very wealthy. All federal income tax payers got a tax cut.
Hagen wrote:
And now he’s both for and against overturning Roe v. Wade.
Huh? That hasn't even been an issue in this campaign. And McCain couldn't overturn RvW anyway. That can only be done by courts if a related case is brought to trial.
Ryan

Akron, OH

#19 Aug 5, 2008
Try It Again wrote:
The price is all a oil market rouge by the Big Oil Companies & Commodity players
The word is "ruse," you knucklehead. "Rouge" is a color.
Spirit of Reagan

Redwood City, CA

#20 Aug 5, 2008
Two questions:

1. What is the definition of working family?

2. Does that include all of the Obama followers that don't work and ust sit at home?

At the very least, welfare recipients should have to man the air pumps at gas stations since tire inflation is a cornerstone of the Obama energy plan.
Spirit of Reagan

Redwood City, CA

#21 Aug 5, 2008
cellisis wrote:
Obama is promoting what Bush is doing: handing out a rebate without solving the underline problem with economy or energy.
How different is Obama from Bush anyway?
A stimulus package is different than seizing profits from a specific group of companies and handing the money to people.
To Che GOP Hater

Canton, OH

#23 Aug 5, 2008
Web loggers who are campaigning against Senator Obama's presidential run are accusing Google and Obama supporters of silencing them after their Web logs were marked as spam and their accounts temporarily frozen.

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A bicyclist rides by a sign outside of the Google headquarters July 17, 2008 at Mountain View, California.

On Thursday, hours after publishing a post about an online petition demanding that Mr. Obama publicly produce his birth certificate, an associate professor of business administration at Brooklyn College, Mitchell Langbert, found that he could no longer access his Web log.

Google's Blogger hosting service had suspended "Mitchell Langbert's Blog," which Mr. Langbert describes as "two-thirds academic stuff I'm working on and one-third politics," until it could verify the Web log was not a "spam blog," or a site designed solely to increase the page views of associated Web sites.

A day later Google lifted the block on the account, but the incident and earlier Web log freezes in late June have led Mr. Langbert and other anti-Obama bloggers to accuse the Illinois senator's supporters of intentionally identifying their blog addresses to Google as spam blogs. They also say the company has reflexively suspended the sites.

"These tech-savvy smart alecks have figured out that if you report a blog you don't like, you can do some damage to a person," Mr. Langbert said.

A spokesman for Google, Adam Kovacevich, said in a statement that an overzealous antispam filter was responsible for the blocks.

"We believe this was caused by mass spam e-mails mentioning the 'Just Say No Deal' network of blogs, which in turn caused our system to classify the blog addresses mentioned in the e-mails as spam," he said. "We have restored posting rights to the affected blogs, and it is very important to us that Blogger remain a tool for political debate and free expression."

Several of the blogs that were blocked, including hillaryorbust.com and comealongway.blogspot.com , are part of the "Just Say No Deal" network of anti-Obama blogs. But Mr. Langbert's blog is not, leading him to conclude that Obama supporters had targeted him.

On her right-leaning blog "Atlas Shrugs," Pamela Geller keeps a list of blogs that Google has temporarily blocked. "The blockings do come in waves," she said. "The last wave was this past week, and now it got very quiet."

Some writers have had their blogs unblocked, while others have moved them to WordPress, a rival blog host.

"I don't think" Google has "malicious intentions at all, it's just that spammers can literally overrun a service if you're not careful, so their defenses have become overzealous," a spokesman for WordPress, Matthew Mullenweg, said in an e-mail.

"We always have human review before turning off an active blog," he said. "People invest so much time into their blogs, to treat it with anything less than the utmost respect is criminal."
ObamaGoodness

Tulsa, OK

#25 Aug 5, 2008
I love how almost every one of you anti-Obamans do the same thing: You take one detail from his plan, shout "how's he gonna do THAT?!?!" and then flip it to a negative.

His plan is far more complete and detailed than anything McInsane has come up with. If you'd actually bother to listen to his whole plan, or better yet read it, you'd be better off.

You repubs need to get off the soapbox. This election isn't a typical mashup between liberals and conservatives. It's between a mature, intelligent and talented candidate with the right message versus, well, whatever it is John McCain claims to be these days.
Ryan

Akron, OH

#26 Aug 5, 2008
ObamaGoodness wrote:
I love how almost every one of you anti-Obamans do the same thing: You take one detail from his plan, shout "how's he gonna do THAT?!?!" and then flip it to a negative.
His plan is far more complete and detailed than anything McInsane has come up with. If you'd actually bother to listen to his whole plan, or better yet read it, you'd be better off.
You repubs need to get off the soapbox. This election isn't a typical mashup between liberals and conservatives. It's between a mature, intelligent and talented candidate with the right message versus, well, whatever it is John McCain claims to be these days.
Actually I've found Obama to be pretty sparse on details and heavy on pretty words without meat to back them up - all style no substance.

The only thing he's really clear on is that he's in favor of seizing individual and corporate assets through increased taxes in order to redistribute this wealth to others who didn't earn it.

I defy you to show me otherwise.
jason

Akron, OH

#27 Aug 5, 2008
ObamaGoodness wrote:
I love how almost every one of you anti-Obamans do the same thing: You take one detail from his plan, shout "how's he gonna do THAT?!?!" and then flip it to a negative.
His plan is far more complete and detailed than anything McInsane has come up with. If you'd actually bother to listen to his whole plan, or better yet read it, you'd be better off.
You repubs need to get off the soapbox. This election isn't a typical mashup between liberals and conservatives. It's between a mature, intelligent and talented candidate with the right message versus, well, whatever it is John McCain claims to be these days.
you make me want to BARF!

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