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Ohio.com - A Barberton officer gives Jerry Seabrook, 70, of Wad...

There are 731 comments on the Akron Beacon Journal story from Sep 25, 2007, titled Ohio.com - A Barberton officer gives Jerry Seabrook, 70, of Wad.... In it, Akron Beacon Journal reports that:

Jerry Seabrook is a statistic. Or, rather, he used to be. On June 23, he was a drunken driver.

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copscicles

Cleveland, OH

#739 Oct 3, 2007
Nothing will satisfy cop's wife except the bulge in his pants. Cause, that is a gun he's carrying.
Terry

Cuyahoga Falls, OH

#740 Oct 3, 2007
The Big Lebowski wrote:
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Yet another reason to simply crack your window and hand them your license, registration, and proof of insurance. You are under no obligation to answer their questions.
Which is a nice try to drive while intoxicated and get away with it. But little do you know an officer can order you out of the vehicle if he/she wishes. Then what do you do. Absolutely you do not have to cooperate but like you and every defense attorny that says don't answer questions or take a breath test then just make it that much easier to drive while intoxicated. I sure hope no one hits and injures or kills your loved ones then follows the advice you and other defense attornies give because then they just get away with putting others in harms way. I can hear it now, a person is not arrested because they hit your family member but they were intoxicated. Now you are yelling about the police because they "didn't do thier job" You are never happy, are you?
resident of springfield

North Richland Hills, TX

#741 Oct 3, 2007
Terry wrote:
<quoted text>Which is a nice try to drive while intoxicated and get away with it. But little do you know an officer can order you out of the vehicle if he/she wishes.
"if he/she wishes" is that a perk of their job to mix with power.

“At least I'm housebroken.”

Since: Jun 07

Canton, OH

#742 Oct 3, 2007
Terry wrote:
<quoted text>Which is a nice try to drive while intoxicated and get away with it. But little do you know an officer can order you out of the vehicle if he/she wishes. Then what do you do. Absolutely you do not have to cooperate but like you and every defense attorny that says don't answer questions or take a breath test then just make it that much easier to drive while intoxicated. I sure hope no one hits and injures or kills your loved ones then follows the advice you and other defense attornies give because then they just get away with putting others in harms way. I can hear it now, a person is not arrested because they hit your family member but they were intoxicated. Now you are yelling about the police because they "didn't do thier job" You are never happy, are you?
Why would I complain if someone plays by the rules?

Also, this whole "if it were one of your family members" argument is just pure rubbish. Either you believe in something or you don't. I am firm enough in my convictions to understand that the law cuts both ways, so I am not going to piss and moan about it. As the old adage goes, "You live by the sword and you die by the sword."
resident of springfield

North Richland Hills, TX

#743 Oct 3, 2007
Terry wrote:
I can hear it now, a person is not arrested because they hit your family member but they were intoxicated. Now you are yelling about the police because they "didn't do thier job" You are never happy, are you?
thats a lame example
jewels

United States

#744 Oct 3, 2007
resident of springfield wrote:
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"if he/she wishes" is that a perk of their job to mix with power.
I think it causes a lot of perkiness.

Since: Aug 07

Jackson Twp.

#745 Oct 4, 2007
I think one point that needs to be made is that, in general, courts basically convict all traffic offenses (and most other misdemeanors) simply on a cop's word. Not all cops are stellar, nor are they always 100% correct. So unless you do what that kid in St. Louis did (videotaping a 'bad' cop), you're pretty much SOL in the eyes of a judge. IMHO, there needs to be a little more credence given by judges to challenges in court that actually have some merit. Anymore, it's basically 'roll over and play dead, Rover' - the nice Mr. Policeman has said you were a bad boy. Sorry, but cops make mistakes too and are virtually never challenged. It's warped the entire process of traffic law and misdemeanor offenses.

“Freelance New Media Artist”

Since: May 07

Cleveland, OH

#746 Oct 4, 2007
The Original Realist wrote:
Cops can't win.
It's either:
A. Drunk gets behind wheel and kills. "Why didn't the cops catch him?" "Cops don't do anything."
B. Drunk gets caught by cops before he kills. "Abuse of power." "Jack-booted thugs." "Eroding of my rights."
Take your pick...
lets stay focused. seabrook was NOT a drunk. the purpose of checkpoints is NOT to catch drunks (their own words!) we are discussing the validity of checkpoints here. you may have noticed plenty of drunks in the news killing people, and they're nowhere near a checkpoint. should we have them every day on every corner?

“Freelance New Media Artist”

Since: May 07

Cleveland, OH

#747 Oct 4, 2007
Terry wrote:
Just because Mr. Seabrook didn't blow over the legal limit doesn't mean he wasn't impaired.
you'd blow a higher score with mouthwash. so we should ban all alcohol consumption? what about advil? makes some people loopy... should they be charged with ovi? should cops ask about your pain releif choices? antihistamine consumption?
David urban

United States

#748 Oct 5, 2007
...my brother was killed by a drunk driver, so you'd think I would be in favor of these roadblocks etc...you would be wrong! Despite the Supreme Court's ruling that such stops are legal, I believe that these tactics start to sound vaguely like those practiced by such wonderful fellows of the Gestapo, KGB and Stasi. You are guilty until you can proove you are not! NOT the America I want!
copscicles

Beachwood, OH

#749 Oct 8, 2007
I'm very sorry for your loss "Dave urban." Impressive that you can still think clearly and fairly on this subject. Many who have not experienced your tragedy, those that can only say "what if it happened to your family" are blinded by basic human rights. This is America, no?

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