Charter school challenge

The charter school movement that helped create charter schools in Ohio 10 years ago argued that they were needed to give parents an alternative to persistently failing schools. Full Story
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I am Brennan

Lorain, OH

#1 Dec 15, 2007
I am Brennan.

I am rich. I say that I care about children's education. When I am ready to give money to education, instead of giving money to Akron Public Schools, I give it to my alma mater, St. V., and instead ask for more money for my charter schools.

I am Brennan.
Buzbe Tarver

Akron, OH

#2 Dec 16, 2007
??? I'D SAY YOU NEED TO GET BACK INTO SBHOOL AND BRUSH UP ON YOU NOUNS AND VERBS, BUDDY!! Never mind, I'll correct you myself!

I'm Brennan.
I'm richer than you wildest dreams and may I say that I care deeply for a child's education. So when I am ready to contribute money towards this endeavor, I give to my alma mater SVSM, instead of the APS system. Then I turn around and ask for an amount equal to my contribution for implementation within my charter sbhools to insure their success!

Yes, I AM BRENNAN!!
Buzbe Tarver

Akron, OH

#3 Dec 16, 2007
I was typing so fast, I used a b instead of c in school!!
Go for it

Norwalk, OH

#4 Dec 16, 2007
I am Brennan wrote:
I am Brennan.
I am rich. I say that I care about children's education. When I am ready to give money to education, instead of giving money to Akron Public Schools, I give it to my alma mater, St. V., and instead ask for more money for my charter schools.
I am Brennan.
If Brennan wants to give to his alma mater, that is his business and none of yours. You only wish you had his choices.

Now on the other hand, if he is running a bad business, be it a charter school, that business needs to go under, just like all bad businesses. If he is getting public funding and running a bad business, then that is something we all need to be concerned about. Public funding needs to be discontinued.
Go for it again

Norwalk, OH

#5 Dec 16, 2007
I am Brennan wrote:
I am Brennan.
I am rich. I say that I care about children's education. When I am ready to give money to education, instead of giving money to Akron Public Schools, I give it to my alma mater, St. V., and instead ask for more money for my charter schools.
I am Brennan.
On the other hand, it a charter school is doing a good job in education and in business, too bad for public schools. It's amazing how, year after year, these failing monopolies can't stand competition.
Buzbe Tarver

Akron, OH

#6 Dec 16, 2007
So many things have happened since I became an adult/Anymore my smart or stupid comments ain't my fault/Microbrews and charter schools and trendy cigarettes/Ohio Lottory won't let us have casinos to place our bets/Countin' flowers on the wall/That don't bother me at all/No good marijuana is around/Hood tax keeps inflation down/Smokin' ci-ga-rettes and watchin' Captain Kang-a-roo don't bother me/ I'm lucky to be...
Jimmy Kilpatrick

Sugar Land, TX

#7 Dec 16, 2007
I challenged anyone including the Fordham Foundation to show any improvement on a large scale anywhere in the US? Provide real data not some Mickey Mouse state develop test if so.

Who says there has been a turnaround in public schools as a union apologists’ chimes in? All is well just give us more money and more time. Public schools are nothing short then an entitlement program for educators and especially administrators incapable of employment in the private sector. Considering the high dropout rates and the vast majority of kids not ready for the work force or college public schools are finished as we knew them.

Parents with any snap and money are bailing out as fast as they can. Minus the top 20% of the kids the vast majority are trapped within a failed system.

Jimmy Kilpatrick
hampercult

Lorain, OH

#8 Dec 16, 2007
It's all good. Let's push the charter schools to be better, not eliminate them.Choice and competition make others industries better. Anyone who says the school industry wasn't fat and lazy 10 years ago is blind. Anyone who say schools are better because of govt. intervention is still insulting to consumers, the students and their parents

Since: Mar 07

United States

#9 Dec 16, 2007
This is jes' a revisited topic. The argument remains the same. Folks from the failin', financially mismanaged public school systems will always denounce the charter schools. This is about the money, and them not gettin' it all.
Mrs Smith

Ashtabula, OH

#10 Dec 16, 2007
I'm a teacher and time after time, I have gotten students in my classroom that have returned to us from a charter school. Unfortunately, when they return to us, their skills are even lower than when they left us. I'm not against charter schools...parents have to do what they feel is best for their children. I am against charters that make false promises and continue to allow our children to fail and then send them back to public schools so that we have to take 4 steps back and hopefully catch them up, which rarely happens.
a very mad parent

Avon Lake, OH

#11 Dec 16, 2007
my child is curretnly enrolled in the new Imigain and it's a hot mess. I'm going to withdrawn her from th eschool and put her back in akron public school, were she learned more and had a better larning environment. The Charter schools aren't all that!
a very mad parent

Avon Lake, OH

#12 Dec 16, 2007
I'm here to tell you taht the set up within the charter schools are really bad. I thought I was giving my daughter a better chance at education, but have find it to be not true. She was receiving a better edcation were she was, and her teachers cared at her old school.
Justice Man

Cleveland, OH

#13 Dec 16, 2007
The charter schools provide a very good education to the students that attend them.

The Akron City schools have just got better at taking the state tests, and knowing what they need to do get the higher state scores to a "C". Akron City schools are still miserable places to get an education. Graduation rates continue to be low.

I favor charter schools staying around for the long haul. Akron City schools can do without the money paid to the charter schools.
No Accountability

Youngstown, OH

#14 Dec 16, 2007
Eventually the charter system will become a thing of the past. With parents realizing that its just a money making scheme that fails the students, they will return their kids to the improving public school systems.

Meanwhile the charter school owners like Brennan will have made a nice buck off the taxpayers and failed to serve the best interests of the kids.
Kevin

Youngstown, OH

#15 Dec 16, 2007
Justice Man wrote:
The charter schools provide a very good education to the students that attend them.
The Akron City schools have just got better at taking the state tests, and knowing what they need to do get the higher state scores to a "C". Akron City schools are still miserable places to get an education. Graduation rates continue to be low.
I favor charter schools staying around for the long haul. Akron City schools can do without the money paid to the charter schools.
Haven't you read anything in the news lately? Charter School do NOT provide a good education. Their students are failing miserably. They have a very low graduation rate too on the high school level. Much lower than the public school rate.
Carrie

Youngstown, OH

#16 Dec 16, 2007
Mrs Smith wrote:
I'm a teacher and time after time, I have gotten students in my classroom that have returned to us from a charter school. Unfortunately, when they return to us, their skills are even lower than when they left us. I'm not against charter schools...parents have to do what they feel is best for their children. I am against charters that make false promises and continue to allow our children to fail and then send them back to public schools so that we have to take 4 steps back and hopefully catch them up, which rarely happens.
Couldn't have said it better.
MKK

Youngstown, OH

#17 Dec 16, 2007
Did anyone read that article in Scene magazine this fall written by a former White Hat employee? Very revealing about what goes in inside that operation. Talk about taking those tax dollars and not giving back.
Teacher

United States

#18 Dec 16, 2007
It doesn't matter what school a child goes to. Until their parents start being parents it won't matter. I teach in Akron and I get charter school kids all the time. They are always below our public school kids level, always. My question to the public is, why would you want to pay a man, Brennan, about 15 million a year for a failing school? He makes money, that's it. He doesn't care if kids pass or fail. He cares about how much he makes. Name one Superintendent who makes more that 200k? Brennan gets kickbacks from computer companies to use their stuff.
If a kid can't read, buy them a book not a video game.
north hiller

Los Angeles, CA

#19 Dec 16, 2007
Mrs Smith wrote:
I'm a teacher and time after time, I have gotten students in my classroom that have returned to us from a charter school. Unfortunately, when they return to us, their skills are even lower than when they left us. I'm not against charter schools...parents have to do what they feel is best for their children. I am against charters that make false promises and continue to allow our children to fail and then send them back to public schools so that we have to take 4 steps back and hopefully catch them up, which rarely happens.
And yes, this lower skillset is exactly what I noticed in my children when I took them out of the Edge Academy and transferred them to APS. And it seems to me that these charter schools are just overflowing with underprivileged, inner-city African-American students. These charter schools are not racially mixed enough for me.
get real

Erie, PA

#20 Dec 16, 2007
I find it amazing that there are people that can still try to play it off like the current charter system in Ohio is working. The only thing it's working to do is line the pockets of Brennan and the legislators that support him (or that he supports--still haven't figured out how that works). Does it really matter how poorly these charters perform to state standards? NO, it does not, because there is no punishment of any sort for poor performance. They're getting the same per pupil funding, yet don't face the same consquences as the public schools for underperforming. The legislature (the GOP, in particular) has it out for the public school system. Hopefully, people will start to make education a priority again (rather than worrying about keeping casinos closed, gays from marrying, and guns in their bedrooms) and get rid of some of these legislators that are concerned with nothing more than getting rich and expanding the lower class.

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