Mentally challenged man who killed a woman??

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PossumMama

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Does anyone recall a mentally challenged man who rides a bike who killed an elderly woman and burned her home? I am doing a report for school and would like info on this
bostongirl

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I think you are talking about the case of Johnny Lee Wilson in Aurora,MO. He was later found not guilty. Very unfair trial. Interesting story. It aired on Unsolved Mysteries years ago. You can try "googling" it.
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I was living in that hell hole also known as Aurora when they framed that poor kid. Typical for Aurora
bostongirl

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I'm from Boston but my family lives near Aurora. It does not surprise me that this kids case was mishandled. I see how business is conducted in small town Missouri and it is pretty sad. People are quick to point a finger and gossip. Glad I only come to visit. I could never live where people are so backward and stuck in the past.
traveling man

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bostongirl you from time to time make reference to the backward way and the now stuck in the past comment, must you be so a bitch as it were. please stay in boston, and keep your opinions to yourself, I have read and not said anything till now but I have had enough, your comments in the negative are not appreciated. peace
bostongirl

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Hey "traveling man"...sorry that you are offended by my opinion. But everyone has one. Freedom of speech my friend sorry if you dont like it.

Honestly, are you offended that I feel bad for the poor kid who was scapegoated due to rumors in a small town? Maybe you should be more offended at the way the local departments handled this case. Try worrying less about me and more about the way things are handled in your area.

By the way you are about 6 months late on your response to my comment. I wrote that in March. And my little traveler I will travel wherever I damn well please. As for my negative comments...do you think calling me a bitch is not negative? Hmmmmmmmmmm
bostongirl

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traveling man wrote:
bostongirl you from time to time make reference to the backward way and the now stuck in the past comment, must you be so a bitch as it were. please stay in boston, and keep your opinions to yourself, I have read and not said anything till now but I have had enough, your comments in the negative are not appreciated. peace
What no response? You seemed to have a whole lot to say about me a few days back? What... now you cant answer me and tell me why you feel the need to call me a bitch? Think you should take your own damn advice and keep your opinions to yourself. Because frankly I could care less what you think of my posting or me. Mainly just wondering what kind of coward calls women names like that? You have a response to that?
travlin man

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sorry been out of the country dont get to get on here often, just noticed you seem to have a neg. attatude of the southern people, just my opinion, maby bitch was a bit strong. but I dont think so, I didn't take it your were running down a retarted person, I took it your just dont like the hillbilly people who are part of the great state of Missouri, well I for one say I am sorry to have offended you, may you have a good day,and a verry prosperous year, and hope the high winds and water don't get you, peace
bostongirl

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Aug 24, 2009
 
Well thanks for apologizing for calling me such a harsh name. It was unnecessary. No my family is from Missouri so you are mistaken about my perception on the people who live there. Hope you have a wonderful year as well.
travlin man

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Aug 26, 2009
 
sorry for my mistake, think I will go fishing.
bostongirl

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Aug 31, 2009
 
Great idea.
Mark Martin

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He wasn't a kid & wasn't framed. You are probably a liberal baby killer. He was never found "Not Guilty". Mel Carnahan pardoned him after so many people threatened to withdraw their political endorsements, because it had drawn so much media attention. Johnny was found "Guilty". He (Johnny Lee Wilson) was in fact not retarded. In his interview with highway patrol, he gave a detailed layout of Mrs. Martz's home, of which he was very familiar with, he helped her with many house hold chores over a number of years. He gave a very distinct description of how he entered her home the night that she was murdered, said where he had found her, furniture that he had knocked over and over turned while going after her, because he said that she was at her refrigerator, with the door open when she noticed him in the room, he said that she was startled and dropped a bowl on the floor (which was discovered by the highway patrol), also the furniture that he described to them that he knocked over, confirmed what they had discovered. He also gave a very detailed description of how he tied her up, and what with, that he sodomized her, and even raped her..but he couldn't get off, he said thats why he ended up sodomizing her and then set her on fire. That also confirmed the evidence that the highway patrol had found. He also told them what he used to set her house on fire, the trail in which he poured the material through out the house, which matched that of the report from the state fire marshal. When his house was searched, numerous articles of Pauline Martz's under-garments and other personal belongings were found in his room. When fire fighter's arrived that night of the fire, Johnny was there and had to be physically removed by fire fighter's because he kept standing on the fire hoses, hindering many attempts to secure hose lines and other equipment in order to extinguish the fire. This was also part of the fire incident reports. So many people wanted to make everyone believe that he was so retarded that he couldn't even hardly dress himself. He also took 2 polygraph tests by outside agencies, that also gave report that he was telling the truth on one test when he admitted to the crime and details of the crime, then in another test by another outside agency, he denied doing those things...the test concluded that he was lying. It is amazing what people will actually learn, if they will TRULY look at the FACTS and not the media and television propaganda, or the lame attempt by a teen who said she seen "another man", when she couldn't even give an accurate description of a man standing only 20 feet from her, how then, can she be believed to give a description of someone standing much further than 20 feet..and Chris Brownsfield, the man that a certain bail bondsman brought into the picture who gave a confession to the crime, but he couldn't give any accurate information as to the layout of the home, what the woman was tied up with, many people would have you think that maybe he did it, LOL! He was already in jail during the date of the crime and in another part of the state. Several people became involved on Johnny's behalf, because just as they attempted, that if a big media frenzy could be created, then a lot of people stood to make a lot of money. Book & movie right's?....Oh yes, there were movie and book rights that were offered to Johnny, his "beneficiary/financial guardian...a certain bondsman"...But Thank GOD for William Webster, who at the time passed law in Mo, that no one other than the family of the victim could receive any monies for such incident....so when that was discovered, the Johnny crew withdrew the intent for books & movie rights. Now, what about Pauline Martz? Who thought anything about her? what about her family?. They just want to live in peace and let GOD take care of it. And what is so wrong with that? Because as they said, in the end, Johnny and any other's who condoned his actions, that is who they will have to answer to.
Mark Martin

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Nov 27, 2010
 
He was never found "Not Guilty". Mel Carnahan pardoned him after so many people threatened to withdraw their political endorsements, because it had drawn so much media attention. Johnny was found "Guilty". He (Johnny Lee Wilson) was in fact not retarded. In his interview with highway patrol, he gave a detailed layout of Mrs. Martz's home, of which he was very familiar with, he helped her with many house hold chores over a number of years. He gave a very distinct description of how he entered her home the night that she was murdered, said where he had found her, furniture that he had knocked over and over turned while going after her, because he said that she was at her refrigerator, with the door open when she noticed him in the room, he said that she was startled and dropped a bowl on the floor (which was discovered by the highway patrol), also the furniture that he described to them that he knocked over, confirmed what they had discovered. He also gave a very detailed description of how he tied her up, and what with, that he sodomized her, and even raped her..but he couldn't get off, he said thats why he ended up sodomizing her and then set her on fire. That also confirmed the evidence that the highway patrol had found. He also told them what he used to set her house on fire, the trail in which he poured the material through out the house, which matched that of the report from the state fire marshal. When his house was searched, numerous articles of Pauline Martz's under-garments and other personal belongings were found in his room. When fire fighter's arrived that night of the fire, Johnny was there and had to be physically removed by fire fighter's because he kept standing on the fire hoses, hindering many attempts to secure hose lines and other equipment in order to extinguish the fire. This was also part of the fire incident reports. So many people wanted to make everyone believe that he was so retarded that he couldn't even hardly dress himself. He also took 2 polygraph tests by outside agencies, that also gave report that he was telling the truth on one test when he admitted to the crime and details of the crime, then in another test by another outside agency, he denied doing those things...the test concluded that he was lying. It is amazing what people will actually learn, if they will TRULY look at the FACTS and not the media and television propaganda, or the lame attempt by a teen who said she seen "another man", when she couldn't even give an accurate description of a man standing only 20 feet from her, how then, can she be believed to give a description of someone standing much further than 20 feet..and Chris Brownsfield, the man that a certain bail bondsman brought into the picture who gave a confession to the crime, but he couldn't give any accurate information as to the layout of the home, what the woman was tied up with, many people would have you think that maybe he did it, LOL! He was already in jail during the date of the crime and in another part of the state. Several people became involved on Johnny's behalf, because just as they attempted, that if a big media frenzy could be created, then a lot of people stood to make a lot of money. Book & movie right's?....Oh yes, there were movie and book rights that were offered to Johnny, his "beneficiary/financial guardian...a certain bondsman"...But Thank GOD for William Webster, who at the time passed law in Mo, that no one other than the family of the victim could receive any monies for such incident....so when that was discovered, the Johnny crew withdrew the intent for books & movie rights. Now, what about Pauline Martz? Who thought anything about her? what about her family?. They just want to live in peace and let GOD take care of it. And what is so wrong with that? Because as they said, in the end, Johnny and any other's who condoned his actions, that is who they will have to answer to.
Mark Martin

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Nov 27, 2010
 
bostongirl and Shhhhhh...obviously have no clue to the whole ordeal....its so easy to say "poor little boy"...he was not a boy, not retarded (which he was declared competent and not even mildly retarded). What about the poor elderly woman that he murdered? I guess thats how so many of you lib. baby killers think...do away with the old. Learn the FACTS and not the hearsay of things..then you won't sound so ignorant when you speak. I don't mean to be hurtful, but isn't that what you teach children? Know the facts and what you are talking about before you speak. I lived there too, knew him and his family quite well. He even bragged about it after he was pardoned. It really doesn't matter what any of us think or what we know. Johnny and the people who condoned what he did will have to answer to a higher power. I just feel bad for him in that sense.
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I would just like to thank Mark Martin for his post. I have seen references to this case in several of the discussions (usually those ditching the police department) but this is the first time that I have read one that sounded as though the person actually had knowledge.
bostongirl

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Dec 15, 2010
 
Annonymous wrote:
I would just like to thank Mark Martin for his post. I have seen references to this case in several of the discussions (usually those ditching the police department) but this is the first time that I have read one that sounded as though the person actually had knowledge.
Here are some more "FACTS" from the INNOCENCE PROJECT and UNSOLVED MYSTERIES. 2 agencies I doubt would take a case they did not find unusual circumstances in. Follow the link Mr. Martin and catch up on some "Facts"

www.innocenceprojectmidwest.org/index.../john...

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Johnn...

answers.google.com/answers/threadview...

www.victimsofthestate.org/MO/
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Dec 23, 2010
 
bostongirl wrote:
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Here are some more "FACTS" from the INNOCENCE PROJECT and UNSOLVED MYSTERIES. 2 agencies I doubt would take a case they did not find unusual circumstances in. Follow the link Mr. Martin and catch up on some "Facts"
www.innocenceprojectmidwest.org/index.../john...
http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Johnn...
answers.google.com/answers/threadview...
www.victimsofthestate.org/MO/
I saw no "facts" in any of those.
Angelika

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I would be surprised if anyone got a fair trail in those type of little corrupt redneck towns, shame on the people who helped put that poor boy in prison.
Michelle

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Sep 28, 2011
 
Wow. Really. The amount of negative feedback on this forum is truly appalling. Is their no one left in America that can express their opinions without hurtful and often ignorant comments? Why is it everyone thinks small towns are full of idiots, rednecks and corrupt hillbillies? Its simply not true. Evil, ignorance and corruption is found in all towns, big and small.
Mark Martin- Why is it you keep referring to liberal baby killers? I know several people, on both sides of the fence for this case, and it seems to me Liberal or Conservative have nothing to do with their opinions on the case. I'm not trying to be rude here, but I think you should know, using that reference makes you sound ignorant and radical. Getting people to take your side, or see the truth as you see it, should be done with intelligence, facts, and respect. I have a hard time believing anything you have written simply because you sound like such a bigot. Bigots tend to bend the truth the way they want to see it. Maybe you should try expressing your opinion without insults and ignorance.
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Sep 28, 2011
 
Thank you mark Martin , I see the poor mentally handicapped child (Johnny wilson) driving around aurora every day. He is apparently not as handicapped as some would have us believe. Just one of the many lies told by the wilson supporters. Want some interesting reading ? See if you can get aurora pd to release records on little Johnny reportedly peeping in windows around that time. But hey he couldn't have done that he's just a poor handicapped child. And he was not pardoned, his sentence was commuted. What does that mean, he

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