Inmate Fatally Stabs Corrections Officer

Inmate Fatally Stabs Corrections Officer

There are 116 comments on the KNBC Los Angeles story from Jun 20, 2008, titled Inmate Fatally Stabs Corrections Officer. In it, KNBC Los Angeles reports that:

A federal corrections officer at U.S. Penitentiary, Atwater , was stabbed to death Friday by an inmate, Merced County Sheriff Mark Pazin said.

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dwight

Palmdale, CA

#108 Jul 20, 2008
wow that sucks! I feel bad for this guy. Doing What He and Others do. To keep and maintain these criminals. tough job, but I'm Happy and Gracious that there are those who are Braver than me to do a job like this. I give these guy props.
My Heart and Prayers go out to him and his Family
Think Outside the Box

Santa Cruz, CA

#109 Jul 20, 2008
CorrectionOfficers_Dad wrote:
Condolences go out to the Rivera Family today. Correctional Officer Jose Rivera would have been 23 today. It was one month ago today, that he was murdered at USP-Atwater. A group formed after this terrible tragedy. Friends and Family of Correctional Officers http://www.correctionalsafety.org
Before you get all choked up, consider what appears below that was written by someone in the know.
As someone working with prisoners, you know damn well that at least half of them don't warrant "high security" confinement (I did 3 yrs. at USP Florence, then 5 at FCI Florence & Victorville). Why isn't anyone at the federal level looking at alternatives to the very expensive and labor intensive maximum or high medium institutions? I was a first time offender and did the entire sentence without getting a shot or into a fight. In other words, I just minded my own business and did what I was supposed to do. Despite this, I never dropped below "high-medium" and I found it more than a little strange that on 11/22/03 I was a thoroughly dangerous felon requiring tons and tons of security at FCI Victorville (I was one of the 1st 200 that activated that joint in 2000), but the next morning, on 11/23/03, I was suddenly trustworthy enough to ride a bus unescorted to a halfway house 400 miles away.

Yes, I know there's lots and lots of dangerous people in prison and I'm glad they're locked up. That being said, it's also true that the BOP (and probably most state systems) over classify inmate's security level in order to increase the number of staff positions. In other words, the union is more concerned with growing its membership than it is in safety. Why else would it spend so many resources opposing the recent change in how crack cocaine defendants are sentenced? One would think that reducing the population by about 20,000, and the subsequent increase in staff/inmate ratio that would occasion, would be favored by the union. Sadly that wasn't the case and the only conclusion one can draw is that job security, not staff safety, motivates them. Until that changes and the union starts advocating for sentencing reform, no one's going to take you serious. What say ye?
CorrectionOffice rs_Dad

Thousand Oaks, CA

#110 Jul 21, 2008
Think Outside the Box wrote:
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Until that changes and the union starts advocating for sentencing reform, no one's going to take you serious. What say ye?
I say, thank you for your opinion, and I would agree that the Federal Bureau of Prisons needs to take a look at a lot of their policies. Our group is focusing in only on what's depicted in our Mission Statement, published on our web site http://correctionalsafety.org/
Think Outsides a PUNK

United States

#111 Jul 23, 2008
What was the heat to much for you "Amused" that you had to change your screen name? Your still a worthless, spineless piece of crap.
Hey, bet you miss those days in the joint don't ya "Boy"!! For hating C.O's you sure are infatuated with putting your worthless inmate two cents in on all the sites.
I know what your all about now. Hopefully a few of your loser buddies "Inmates" are reading your jargon and have you figured out now. YOU SNITCHED YOUR WAY OUT OF MAXIMUM SECURITY! Like i said before, "Cell gangsta, snitch, punk, cho-mo! Later on "BOY"!

Since: Apr 08

Brookhaven, PA

#112 Jul 28, 2008
The death penalty needs to make a come back. Not having a deterrent makes no sense!

“Airborne mama on a oneway trip”

Since: Apr 08

Littlerock, Ca

#113 Jul 28, 2008
We have lost another one of our family members. I hate to hear about the loss of an officer. They always have the backs of the medical staff. My prayers are with the family.

“Airborne mama on a oneway trip”

Since: Apr 08

Littlerock, Ca

#114 Jul 28, 2008
BOP Nurse wrote:
I am a nurse for the BOP. I am crying for his family right now. This is actually a sad reminder of what can happen where we work. Prison's are too overcrowded and there is NOT ENOUGH STAFF!!!!!! God bless this family and please help them through this very tough time.
And could you believe our dear govenor wants to put a freeze on hiring. He is no better than an inmate.

“Airborne mama on a oneway trip”

Since: Apr 08

Littlerock, Ca

#115 Jul 28, 2008
David wrote:
Wow stateRN, be careful!!!!! Think about you when we here stuff like this!
Be Safe!
Thanks. Must have missed this one when it got started. It is because of these guys that I stay safe, it is always sad when we lose one to this scum.
sportscenter

United States

#116 Jul 28, 2008
That sounds pretty good "Think" but haven't you ever heard the saying, "better safe than sorry." I think it would be better to over classify an inmate than to under classify them. But being an ex inmate you also know that the difference between a level 1 (low security) inmate and a level 4 inmate is 3 seconds. In the 3 seconds an inmate can kill someone (c/o or inmate) and totally change his security level. I can also think your argument for reducing the population is a good one, but my argument is this, I would rather spend the money enforcing the laws that already exist than to let people slide for breaking the law. If we want to release all these inmates it's like saying "you broke the law and were sentenced but what the hell, go ahead and go home." Also, I think the state would be opening itself up for some major lawsuits if one of the inmates that was released went out and committed another crime and someone got hurt. The victim could easily say, "Why is this person out? He is supposed to be in prison for 2 more years."
Think Outside the Box wrote:
<quoted text>
Before you get all choked up, consider what appears below that was written by someone in the know.
As someone working with prisoners, you know damn well that at least half of them don't warrant "high security" confinement (I did 3 yrs. at USP Florence, then 5 at FCI Florence & Victorville). Why isn't anyone at the federal level looking at alternatives to the very expensive and labor intensive maximum or high medium institutions? I was a first time offender and did the entire sentence without getting a shot or into a fight. In other words, I just minded my own business and did what I was supposed to do. Despite this, I never dropped below "high-medium" and I found it more than a little strange that on 11/22/03 I was a thoroughly dangerous felon requiring tons and tons of security at FCI Victorville (I was one of the 1st 200 that activated that joint in 2000), but the next morning, on 11/23/03, I was suddenly trustworthy enough to ride a bus unescorted to a halfway house 400 miles away.
Yes, I know there's lots and lots of dangerous people in prison and I'm glad they're locked up. That being said, it's also true that the BOP (and probably most state systems) over classify inmate's security level in order to increase the number of staff positions. In other words, the union is more concerned with growing its membership than it is in safety. Why else would it spend so many resources opposing the recent change in how crack cocaine defendants are sentenced? One would think that reducing the population by about 20,000, and the subsequent increase in staff/inmate ratio that would occasion, would be favored by the union. Sadly that wasn't the case and the only conclusion one can draw is that job security, not staff safety, motivates them. Until that changes and the union starts advocating for sentencing reform, no one's going to take you serious. What say ye?

“Airborne mama on a oneway trip”

Since: Apr 08

Littlerock, Ca

#117 Jul 28, 2008
sportscenter wrote:
That sounds pretty good "Think" but haven't you ever heard the saying, "better safe than sorry." I think it would be better to over classify an inmate than to under classify them. But being an ex inmate you also know that the difference between a level 1 (low security) inmate and a level 4 inmate is 3 seconds. In the 3 seconds an inmate can kill someone (c/o or inmate) and totally change his security level. I can also think your argument for reducing the population is a good one, but my argument is this, I would rather spend the money enforcing the laws that already exist than to let people slide for breaking the law. If we want to release all these inmates it's like saying "you broke the law and were sentenced but what the hell, go ahead and go home." Also, I think the state would be opening itself up for some major lawsuits if one of the inmates that was released went out and committed another crime and someone got hurt. The victim could easily say, "Why is this person out? He is supposed to be in prison for 2 more years." <quoted text>
We lost a CO in Chino due to wrong classification.

Since: May 08

Lawrenceville, GA

#118 Jul 28, 2008
state RN wrote:
<quoted text> Thanks. Must have missed this one when it got started. It is because of these guys that I stay safe, it is always sad when we lose one to this scum.
stay safer....please

and my prayers go out to the family.

“Airborne mama on a oneway trip”

Since: Apr 08

Littlerock, Ca

#119 Jul 28, 2008
Curious and Curious-er wrote:
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stay safer....please
and my prayers go out to the family.
Will do. My heart breaks when i hear this. Most of these guys are awesome fathers. They no first hand the importance of being involved with your kids.
John

Upland, CA

#120 Jul 29, 2008
It's not a job for the weak of heart.
Salvador Vargas

United States

#121 Mar 18, 2009
"my respect for my boy jose rivera. man wut could i say about him i seen u grow up and i didnt see u go away but i know for the rest of ur family u will always will be A soldado a Le Grand Bulldog jose i remember u since day one and still to this day cant bolive u left like that also my song cd is dedecated to all the fallen soldiers peace yall god bless ur family"
nyc

New York, NY

#122 Apr 12, 2009
Very sad but thats life unfortunately and it seems like people are quick to punish and wanna condem people for hurting officers but i always remember how cops and C.O.s hurt unarmed people, its called leveling the playing field.
John

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#123 Apr 25, 2009
nyc wrote:
Very sad but thats life unfortunately and it seems like people are quick to punish and wanna condem people for hurting officers but i always remember how cops and C.O.s hurt unarmed people, its called leveling the playing field.
Oh ya? You ever been "hurt" by a cop? Ever been in a prison? I think not. You're just a moron who judges the actions of a few, and comes up with ignorant statments like this. Actually, prisons are full of cry baby punks JUST LIKE YOU! GROW UP, JUNIOR!

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