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Ruben Rosario: At least she knows where deadbeat dad is -- in jail

There are 53 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jan 24, 2009, titled Ruben Rosario: At least she knows where deadbeat dad is -- in jail. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

It took nearly two decades, but Lorayne Axtell, of West St. Paul, finally got some measure of satisfaction, if not delayed justice, last week.

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Since: Jan 09

St. Paul, MN

#45 Feb 11, 2009
attn_required wrote:
<quoted text> It is a matter of principle.... Good for her
No, it's a matter of hate and bitterness because she can't get over the fact that the guy didn't want to spend his life with a psycho. Believe me, there's far more evil deeds than her keeping a child support case open, to her own children. I think it's time to move on after 20+ years.

“REALLY? Are you serious?”

Since: Feb 09

Up north MN WI

#46 Feb 12, 2009
Saint Paulite wrote:
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No, it's a matter of hate and bitterness because she can't get over the fact that the guy didn't want to spend his life with a psycho. Believe me, there's far more evil deeds than her keeping a child support case open, to her own children. I think it's time to move on after 20+ years.
you can't call child support being bitter. Paying for his kids has nothing to do with her being psycho. If he's such a great guy, and she's the nut job, why didn't he pay for his own kids?

Since: Jan 09

St. Paul, MN

#47 Feb 12, 2009
Used to be Really wrote:
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you can't call child support being bitter. Paying for his kids has nothing to do with her being psycho. If he's such a great guy, and she's the nut job, why didn't he pay for his own kids?
Well, if you must know, he's not a perfect guy, but she's a psycho whether she got support or not, and he did pay for his kids, in fact he had them living with him for several years. He just didn't jump through the hoops to change the status through the courts and arrears has multiplied since then.

Not every labeled "deadbeat dad" is a guy avoiding child support. Read the child support laws. Men are jacked!

“REALLY? Are you serious?”

Since: Feb 09

Up north MN WI

#48 Feb 13, 2009
Sorry for assuming all guys that get nailed with child support are the deadbeats. I agree, I do assume, and not all of them are the deadbeats. I've just heard SOOOOOOO many exscuses for it from "I lost my job and can't find a new one" (but yet the guy had a new truck, bought a house, and came into his meeting wearing all name brand clothes) to "My mom and sister told me I don't have to claim the kid if I don't want to, and I didn't want my first kid with her" (Yes, really, that was his exscuse, no kidding)

I think as a culture we just make it more acceptable, and then the state is willing to pick up the tab. Most of the younger fathers I see that are forced into paying it were in the home with a single mother, and their fathers didn't pay. I've seen some women do nasty things to men, such as egging their car when they don't pay, but I've seen far more get to their wit's end because the dad didn't pay, and the MOM is the one that has to tell the kids WHY they can't play sports this year, or go on a field trip, or join girlscouts.

Best advice I give ALL men that I see, keep your receipts, and if custody changes even for a week, notify us. Or get it notarized with your ex, so you don't get screwed in the end.

“REALLY? Are you serious?”

Since: Feb 09

Up north MN WI

#49 Feb 13, 2009
And don't try to take the easy way out, don't let the county "take the fund from your paycheck to make it easier" If you are paying, do it yourself with a checkbook every month. Once the county gets in, you'll never get them to stop, even if you end up with custody. Write the check yourself, and they'll never start garnishing your wages.
attn_required

Minneapolis, MN

#50 Feb 13, 2009
Saint Paulite wrote:
<quoted text>
No, it's a matter of hate and bitterness because she can't get over the fact that the guy didn't want to spend his life with a psycho. Believe me, there's far more evil deeds than her keeping a child support case open, to her own children. I think it's time to move on after 20+ years.
It's not hate and bitterness If I get a chance to collect from the deadbeat father of my kids in 30yrs I will jump at it even if I am well off because He's living the life now in his beautiful and driving his Lexus not concerned for his childrens welfare but we all must pay our debts to society at some point and his time has come. Maybe at the time she wasn't well off. IT IS STILL MONEY HE OWES!!!!!

Since: Jan 09

St. Paul, MN

#51 Feb 13, 2009
Used to be Really wrote:
And don't try to take the easy way out, don't let the county "take the fund from your paycheck to make it easier" If you are paying, do it yourself with a checkbook every month. Once the county gets in, you'll never get them to stop, even if you end up with custody. Write the check yourself, and they'll never start garnishing your wages.
Excellent advice.

Family court is ugly. I know some excellent fathers, seen some bad ones and everything in between, and I've seen good and really bad in regards to what women do because they're angry and vindictive. The kids suffer in the end.

Since: Jan 09

St. Paul, MN

#52 Feb 13, 2009
attn_required wrote:
<quoted text> It's not hate and bitterness If I get a chance to collect from the deadbeat father of my kids in 30yrs I will jump at it even if I am well off because He's living the life now in his beautiful and driving his Lexus not concerned for his childrens welfare but we all must pay our debts to society at some point and his time has come. Maybe at the time she wasn't well off. IT IS STILL MONEY HE OWES!!!!!
It is bitterness to not be able to move on and live your life, think about it. But anyway, I am not talking about men living the high life. I'm talking about men who are struggling, have done the right things, given to their kids and helped raise them, but have been punished anyway because of lies from the mother. It's far too complex to discuss here.
HALL

United States

#53 Feb 25, 2009
sOME OF YOU WOMEN NEED TO GET A LIFE. If you have a child doesn't mean a man will ever be with you or the child so stop trying to force some one to do something they don't want to do, your son will go to college because he wants that for himself not to spite the father for not being there. If he wants to go to school he should get a job and apply for school loans and get your help if you can help. STOP FORCING A MAN/WOMAN TO DO SOMETHING THERE NOT WILLING TO DO THEMSELVES, BECOME A STRONGER PERSON BECAUSE HE WASN'T THERE NOT MORE PATHETIC BECAUSE HE'S STILL NOT THERE

Since: Feb 08

Saint Paul, MN

#54 Feb 25, 2009
HALL wrote:
sOME OF YOU WOMEN NEED TO GET A LIFE. If you have a child doesn't mean a man will ever be with you or the child so stop trying to force some one to do something they don't want to do, your son will go to college because he wants that for himself not to spite the father for not being there. If he wants to go to school he should get a job and apply for school loans and get your help if you can help. STOP FORCING A MAN/WOMAN TO DO SOMETHING THERE NOT WILLING TO DO THEMSELVES, BECOME A STRONGER PERSON BECAUSE HE WASN'T THERE NOT MORE PATHETIC BECAUSE HE'S STILL NOT THERE
LOUD NOISES! WHO USES ALL CAPITAL LETTERS, REALLY?

Who throws a shoe, really?
HALL

United States

#55 Feb 26, 2009
You use all capital letters
HALL

United States

#56 Feb 26, 2009
I see where you believe in personal responsibility and things not being forced on you by the government so what is your real purpose. Child support is designed to really reimburse the state government for aid that it issues out not for the child,it should be used for the kids but not in all cases

Since: Feb 08

Saint Paul, MN

#57 Feb 26, 2009
HALL wrote:
You use all capital letters
You got me.

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