Jacksonville resident awaits national...

Jacksonville resident awaits national apology for slavery

There are 212 comments on the jacksonville.com story from Jun 26, 2009, titled Jacksonville resident awaits national apology for slavery. In it, jacksonville.com reports that:

Chauvane Christopher has a unique passion for the history of slavery. The 39-year-old Jacksonville resident has been documenting his family’s roots for more than decade.

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Since: Jul 07

AOL

#1 Jun 26, 2009
Uggh.
tobefair

Saint Augustine, FL

#4 Jun 26, 2009
awww boner, that's the Buckley in ya talkin' old gal
noshellswill

Jacksonville, FL

#6 Jun 27, 2009
Every family has a slave history. Most families get over it. Some do not:

9x the crime ... 1/9 the productivity ... 81x useless.
NotAddingUp

Ponte Vedra Beach, FL

#8 Jun 27, 2009
Our government had nothing to do with this so why are they apologizing? Slave were brought to America by the owners of a Jewish Trading company 'The Jewish Newport-World center of Slave Commerce, which was not under any government order or backing. If anyone should apologize itÂ’s their decedents.
And

Jacksonville, FL

#9 Jun 27, 2009
Any discussion about reparations for these whiners and amnesty/ jobs / benefits for illegals
makes me want to SPIT on the gov't.
kckt

United States

#10 Jun 27, 2009
Tell him to look up the tribes in Africa that profitted by selling his ancestors to slave traders and ask them reparation. This whole thing would have never started if there hadn't been a comodity offered in the first place.

“In the Spirit of Crazy Horse”

Since: Apr 08

Pine ridge South Dakota

#11 Jun 27, 2009
If he gets one let me know. We Indians got a few bones to pick also. However im not holding my breath.
Crimson Dynamo

Jacksonville, FL

#12 Jun 27, 2009
When I was a kid I mowed lawns to make money.
I pushed a mower around the neighborhood and knocked on doors.
It was a PUSH only mower because self-propelled had not been invented.
I usually charged 2.50 per lawn but there was one Jewish family that would only pay me $1.75 and they were firm.
I only mowed their lawn when I couldn't find anyone else to pay me $2.50...which WAS the going rate at this time.
I would like to get just a "local apology" from the Jewish community....I have not gotten over this.
Westside conservative

Saint Augustine, FL

#13 Jun 27, 2009
Crimson Dynamo wrote:
When I was a kid I mowed lawns to make money.
I pushed a mower around the neighborhood and knocked on doors.
It was a PUSH only mower because self-propelled had not been invented.
I usually charged 2.50 per lawn but there was one Jewish family that would only pay me $1.75 and they were firm.
I only mowed their lawn when I couldn't find anyone else to pay me $2.50...which WAS the going rate at this time.
I would like to get just a "local apology" from the Jewish community....I have not gotten over this.
So if an Asian family had only paid $1.75 would the whole Asian community have to apologize to make amends? What if they were black, Hispanic, or some other group? So you hold the entire Jewish community responsible for the actions of one family?? That's one of the reasons we have the racial issues we have in this country. People want to hold the entire groups responsible for the actions of one or two individuals within that group. People hang onto feeling of hurt, anger, and bitterness until it drips into every member of that group. You can not blanket label a group because of the actions of its members or even a majority of the group because there are still many within that do the right thing. Is that not what Dr. King meant when he said not judged by the color of their skin but the content of their character?

“"Don't worry be happy"”

Since: Feb 08

Jax

#14 Jun 27, 2009
Westside conservative wrote:
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So if an Asian family had only paid $1.75 would the whole Asian community have to apologize to make amends? What if they were black, Hispanic, or some other group? So you hold the entire Jewish community responsible for the actions of one family?? That's one of the reasons we have the racial issues we have in this country. People want to hold the entire groups responsible for the actions of one or two individuals within that group. People hang onto feeling of hurt, anger, and bitterness until it drips into every member of that group. You can not blanket label a group because of the actions of its members or even a majority of the group because there are still many within that do the right thing. Is that not what Dr. King meant when he said not judged by the color of their skin but the content of their character?
I think he was being facetious.
Westside conservative

Saint Augustine, FL

#16 Jun 27, 2009
Cool Peppa wrote:
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I think he was being facetious.
I missed it, my apologies.

“its a plane, its a plane”

Since: Dec 07

jax for now

#17 Jun 27, 2009
stop looking for a apologies and start living your life in the right way is how I feel OR will the skanky blacks that are gunning down their own and others be the ones aplogising in the next few years to all their victims of today.

I an mine take responsibilty for what we do NOW, NOT what has gone before that I had no control over nor was even born.
noshellswill

Jacksonville, FL

#19 Jun 27, 2009
Westside conservative wrote:
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So if an Asian family had only paid $1.75 would the whole Asian community have to apologize to make amends? What if they were black, Hispanic, or some other group?

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. You can not blanket label a group because of the actions of its members or even a majority of the group because there are still many within that do the right thing. Is that not what Dr. King meant when he said not judged by the color of their skin but the content of their character?
That's not even a good fairy-tale WSC. Only analysis of past experience allows a reasoned choice among various future actions of uncertain consequences.

If one "lives in a bubble", then you may do as you wish without harm. The "bubble" protects. All others MUST rigorously profile based on any-and-all past behaviors and that most certainly includes GROUP behaviors. To do otherwise is suicide ... as history is all too pleased to detail.

I will not bore you with examples. Snakes may well enjoy their own company, but should you clasp one to your chest YOU WILL BE BITTEN.
What

AOL

#20 Jun 27, 2009
If that is the case BLACKFOOT NATION wants big apology.
noshellswill

Jacksonville, FL

#21 Jun 27, 2009
What wrote:
If that is the case BLACKFOOT NATION wants big apology.
Blackfeet! I presume you mean In'jun.

There are no apologies ... only winners and losers. As matters turned out, American Euro-whites had much to (re)learn from native In'juns'... and failed that test early and often.

That failure was/is understandable - I think - no less tragic for its consequences to American whites. But that's an entirely different "caustic" thread ... how Germanic/Anglo invading klans, moving west failed to see their own archtype in the Redman.
scott1

AOL

#22 Jun 27, 2009
why do they keep removing my posts? all i said was if he wasnt a slave, then he has no right to demand an apology......you dont get what you dont deserve you slag.

“In the Spirit of Crazy Horse”

Since: Apr 08

Pine ridge South Dakota

#23 Jun 28, 2009
noshellswill wrote:
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Blackfeet! I presume you mean In'jun.
There are no apologies ... only winners and losers. As matters turned out, American Euro-whites had much to (re)learn from native In'juns'... and failed that test early and often.
That failure was/is understandable - I think - no less tragic for its consequences to American whites. But that's an entirely different "caustic" thread ... how Germanic/Anglo invading klans, moving west failed to see their own archtype in the Redman.
In'juns' I presume you mean Indian or Native American. It dont seem like you past the test yourself. Who were the winners at Sand creek or Wounded Knee? No less tragic for its consequences to American whites? What ever your smoking put it down.
noshellswill

Jacksonville, FL

#24 Jun 28, 2009
Rocgollyg wrote:
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In'juns' I presume you mean Indian or Native American. It dont seem like you past the test yourself. Who were the winners at Sand creek or Wounded Knee? No less tragic for its consequences to American whites? What ever your smoking put it down.
You seem to want sympathy for Amerinds ... or believe they deserved "better" treatment by whites. History knows no such values; native American savages knew no such teary-eyed simpering. In conflict the winners are those alive and the dead are losers.

In culture conflicts there are NO moral issues, only survival. As to what Euro-whites LOST by butchering Amerinds as they did --- that issue deserves another thread. I hinted at my view in the previous post.

“In the Spirit of Crazy Horse”

Since: Apr 08

Pine ridge South Dakota

#25 Jun 28, 2009
noshellswill wrote:
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You seem to want sympathy for Amerinds ... or believe they deserved "better" treatment by whites. History knows no such values; native American savages knew no such teary-eyed simpering. In conflict the winners are those alive and the dead are losers.
In culture conflicts there are NO moral issues, only survival. As to what Euro-whites LOST by butchering Amerinds as they did --- that issue deserves another thread. I hinted at my view in the previous post.
There are never moral issues if one is not moral. When Euro-whites came to this Country they were welcome among our people. They raped our land and forced us upon the Reservations. They built theives road through the Black Hills to dig for yellow stones and left a million buffalo dead on the plains why my people starved. No there is no moral issues if one is not moral.

Since: Jun 07

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#26 Jun 28, 2009
The reason that you can not understand what the apology is for is becuase in your own life you do not find that you have ever done anything which deserves and apology. The responses on here illustrate the complete failure as human being and how to respond to their fellow humans. The very idea that one would be required to look at their own part in their lives or the lives or others shows just how self-centered, egoecentric, that the posters on this and many other threads truly are.

The point is not whether an apology is needed but that you even to refuse to look and see if one should ever be considered.

Does this post from me say that I am perfect....HARDLY! I know that I am imperfect. I know that I have wronged others. And I am willing to admit it. ARE YOU?

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