Briley Township 'Dream Team'

Briley Township 'Dream Team'

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#1 Aug 25, 2012
Mike Wurtsmith / Supervisor

Dale LaClair / Treasurer

Anna Rogers / Clerk

All three individuals are highly regarded; have proven their leadership abilities, and all three are honest, hard working, and are willing to serve the residents of Briley for the betterment of our community. Let's take our town to the next level and vote for the Briley Township Dream Team.

I like Mike, I like Dale and I like Anna, and better yet, I like them working together, for us, right from the Briley Township office!
turtle

Phoenix, AZ

#2 Aug 26, 2012
All under the direction of Phil LaMore. Interesting.
Think about it

Roscommon, MI

#3 Aug 26, 2012
Scarlettears wrote:
Mike Wurtsmith / Supervisor
Dale LaClair / Treasurer
Anna Rogers / Clerk
All three individuals are highly regarded; have proven their leadership abilities, and all three are honest, hard working, and are willing to serve the residents of Briley for the betterment of our community. Let's take our town to the next level and vote for the Briley Township Dream Team.
I like Mike, I like Dale and I like Anna, and better yet, I like them working together, for us, right from the Briley Township office!
I like 2/3 of your team. I have told you how I felt about Mike and why. I also told you I supported Dale for this office. Anna Rogers was a very capable clerk for this township. She ran a taught ship while she was there and did it in a very professional manner. Neither Dale nor Anna would be marching to the tune of Phil or anyone else. Mike, on the other hand, has very close ties with Kevin at the Chamber, and Mike will go whichever way he thinks will benefit himself.

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#4 Aug 26, 2012
turtle wrote:
All under the direction of Phil LaMore. Interesting.
If I needed some sound direction or some solid advice....I would trust Phil with that. I would also trust Mike, or Dale, or Anna. Thank you for contribution.
behind the bushes

Harrison, MI

#5 Aug 26, 2012
Think about it wrote:
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I like 2/3 of your team. I have told you how I felt about Mike and why. I also told you I supported Dale for this office. Anna Rogers was a very capable clerk for this township. She ran a taught ship while she was there and did it in a very professional manner. Neither Dale nor Anna would be marching to the tune of Phil or anyone else. Mike, on the other hand, has very close ties with Kevin at the Chamber, and Mike will go whichever way he thinks will benefit himself.


Those tree will have their hands full cleaning up the mess that Bonnie, Rose Jim and Bruno created. As far as your disliking Mike, everyone has faults given, but the tree along with John Zollars and Barb Smith will be awesome compared with what we have now or putting Rose back on her throne. Bonnie is so out of control now and has become another Rose with her stupid outbursts during meetings. She also is doing many things she isn't authorized to do or making decisions not approved by the board. I'm damn sure I don't want to see Ed Comber back in there either. So if you don't like Wurtsmith fine, just remember he's a lot better and more qualified than Rose.
reality check

Phoenix, AZ

#6 Aug 26, 2012
your dream team is a nightmare waiting to happen.

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#7 Aug 26, 2012
Think about it wrote:
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I like 2/3 of your team. I have told you how I felt about Mike and why. I also told you I supported Dale for this office. Anna Rogers was a very capable clerk for this township. She ran a taught ship while she was there and did it in a very professional manner. Neither Dale nor Anna would be marching to the tune of Phil or anyone else. Mike, on the other hand, has very close ties with Kevin at the Chamber, and Mike will go whichever way he thinks will benefit himself.
Yes, you did tell me how you felt and why….then I guess for you, two out of three look solid enough to vote for. You state,“Neither Dale or Anna would be marching to the tune of Phil or anyone else.” You are mostly correct with this statement….that’s why Phil, and all others who support Dale and Anna, advocates for them….and for Mike also. I know Phil pretty well, and his hard-fought purpose is for community unity and growth. Does he get frustrated, thus sometimes short when others are dishonest or deceptive? Yep. Does he sometimes throw his hands up out of frustration? Yes on that one too. Does he sometimes want to throw in the towel? You bet he does…..but not a chance, no matter what. And neither will I, or Kevin, anyone else who shares this vision of what Atlanta can, and should be. Although I can’t and won’t answer for Mike, I can state that there’s not one person I can think of that doesn’t work to benefit themselves, or their family. Even the smallest, positive (albeit self-contrived) contribution has a ripple effect in the community, even if the intent was to benefit solely their own. From what little I know about Mike, I do know this…..he’s not afraid to look at his past and see how it has affected his present, and how his present decisions will affect his future….and for sure he’s made changes along the way that make him a better man. He knows himself well and it shows via his air of confidence.“It’s not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is most adaptable to change - Charles Darwin – Although I don’t advocate Darwinism; a truth is still a truth.

I know you don’t support Mike….but I can clearly see Mike in that position….working collectively with Anna and Dale from a foundation of doing what is right and just; making sound, and most often difficult decisions for economic growth and development for all of us who live here. That’s what makes them the Briley Township Dream Team. They’re not only not afraid of rolling up their sleeves, they have a vision for a healthy and prosperous Atlanta.

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#8 Aug 26, 2012
reality check wrote:
your dream team is a nightmare waiting to happen.
You have a right to your opinion, no matter how incorrect you actually are.
Wow

United States

#9 Aug 26, 2012
Those three, a "dream team"??? Are we seriously using the same term for these three individuals in comparison to the "dream team" of '92 of Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, and Larry Bird?? If you are in any form what so ever, PLEASE give me so of the real good stuff that u all are smoking... Great players do great things.... The three individuals u have named are mondane, nothing more than that, and I mean no disrespect to any of them. There are few, if any "dream team" type individuals in Atlanta. You have to pay to play, and we just don't have the $$ to keep those type of individuals in this area. U might find a few "above average" but there are no "dream team" caliber people that stay in Atlanta.
astounded

Mio, MI

#10 Aug 26, 2012
Wow wrote:
Those three, a "dream team"??? Are we seriously using the same term for these three individuals in comparison to the "dream team" of '92 of Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, and Larry Bird?? If you are in any form what so ever, PLEASE give me so of the real good stuff that u all are smoking... Great players do great things.... The three individuals u have named are mondane, nothing more than that, and I mean no disrespect to any of them. There are few, if any "dream team" type individuals in Atlanta. You have to pay to play, and we just don't have the $$ to keep those type of individuals in this area. U might find a few "above average" but there are no "dream team" caliber people that stay in Atlanta.
The grave robber, the Big Mouth and the one who can't wait to spend ALL of the Township money on our state od the art AIRPORT! More like a "dream-on" team !!!
Think about it

Roscommon, MI

#11 Aug 26, 2012
behind the bushes wrote:
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Those tree will have their hands full cleaning up the mess that Bonnie, Rose Jim and Bruno created. As far as your disliking Mike, everyone has faults given, but the tree along with John Zollars and Barb Smith will be awesome compared with what we have now or putting Rose back on her throne. Bonnie is so out of control now and has become another Rose with her stupid outbursts during meetings. She also is doing many things she isn't authorized to do or making decisions not approved by the board. I'm damn sure I don't want to see Ed Comber back in there either. So if you don't like Wurtsmith fine, just remember he's a lot better and more qualified than Rose.
Please understand one thing. I do not dislike Mike. I dislike his record in government service. He is self serving in that respect. As far as Mike goes personally he is a nice guy. Ed Comber worked hand in hand with Rose when he was the twp clerk before. He had a personal feud going with the Ives Family Dining, and Ed and Rose were responsible for dismantling the DDA which had been in place at that time. Unfortunately I place Ed and Mike on about the same plane.
Think about it

Roscommon, MI

#12 Aug 26, 2012
Scarlettears wrote:
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Yes, you did tell me how you felt and why….then I guess for you, two out of three look solid enough to vote for. You state,“Neither Dale or Anna would be marching to the tune of Phil or anyone else.” You are mostly correct with this statement….that’s why Phil, and all others who support Dale and Anna, advocates for them….and for Mike also. I know Phil pretty well, and his hard-fought purpose is for community unity and growth.
I will be voting for Dale and Anna.
As president of the Chamber of Commerce, Phil is not supposed to use the CoC for political purposes since it is technically apolitical. You claim that Phil fights hard for community unity. I have dealt with Phil on numerous occasions and have learned from personal experience that as long as you agree with Phil you are OK. If you dare to disagree with him or question him on decisions you are treated as a leper. Ask some of the people who worked very hard for the Chamber and made the mistake of criticizing something that Phil had done. Phil thinks nothing of dressing someone down in public without giving the other person the courtesy of rebuttal. I have heard of Phil telling people not to frequent certain businesses because of differences he has with them. His meetings are geared toward only positive comments of chamber functions. That is fine on the surface, but in order to improve you need to look at some of the things that didn’t work in order to correct them. You don’t need negativity, but discussing things that are negative can be used for positive purposes.
If a person works for his own benefit only it can have a negative effect on the community. The way I look at it is that you have an obligation to the community that elects you to work for the best interest of the community, not yourself. If the community benefits you will also benefit in the long run. If, however, work for your interests first the community could actually suffer as a result.
Phil has his agenda and it appears to many in the community that it is to turn the CoC into a money making business at the expense of the community. It is also being used as a political tool. If that is what he wants it should be incorporated as a political action committee, not a chamber of commerce. The Chamber is supposed to be promoting the commerce in the community, which it has not done.
I know you and respect your views as well as your motivation. I do think that you have not seen the negative side of Phil. Try disagreeing with him sometime. As to Kevin I think he probably means well, but he has a weird way of showing it at times. He and Mike used to announce the Husky football games. They stopped doing that because they picked sides about a school board issue involving the then superintendent. They obviously didn’t put the students, athletes and their supporters, as their first preference. Kevin and Mike also announce the bump and run at the fair grounds for years. They no longer do that either. That event is sponsored by the Atlanta Sports Boosters which has pumped tens of thousands of dollars into our school athletic programs. They run an absolutely fantastic organization. Their president also had issues with school administration/board, but it has not stopped him from working for the kids. I respect him highly. While announcing one of the bump and runs Kevin made a comment about one of the student participants saying that the student went to Atlanta schools and was still able to read. Many in the audience were outraged to the point that they protested to the Sports Boosters. Mike and Kevin were ultimately replaced as announcers. This is the same Mike that you are supporting for Twp Supervisor. I believe he has a track record of this type of activity where he places his personal agenda above the good of the community.
You say change is good, and sometimes it is, but if change is only on the surface to make people think you have matured it is not a change but a front.
eagle eye

Seattle, WA

#13 Aug 27, 2012
Interesting...Scarlettears..An d why were you fired from the courthouse?

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#14 Aug 27, 2012
eagle eye wrote:
Interesting...Scarlettears..An d why were you fired from the courthouse?
I'll answer this one first becuase you're flying blind: refer to the topic entitled: Recall Facts; post 181 - 183. That should take care of you real quick.

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#15 Aug 27, 2012
Wow wrote:
Those three, a "dream team"??? Are we seriously using the same term for these three individuals in comparison to the "dream team" of '92 of Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, and Larry Bird?? If you are in any form what so ever, PLEASE give me so of the real good stuff that u all are smoking... Great players do great things.... The three individuals u have named are mondane, nothing more than that, and I mean no disrespect to any of them. There are few, if any "dream team" type individuals in Atlanta. You have to pay to play, and we just don't have the $$ to keep those type of individuals in this area. U might find a few "above average" but there are no "dream team" caliber people that stay in Atlanta.
Since the ’92 inception of the phrase "Dream Team", it has since been used to describe an advanced level of performance by certain individuals. I don’t use that phrase flippantly, it’s quite deliberate. Mike, Dale and Anna….they’re far from mundane…..they’re quite accomplished, and their work…on our behalf....will impress for sure. Okay, I’ll concede to the fact that it’s not a full-scale “Dream Team” that’s as impressive as mentioned by you, but to me…..it’s the “Briley” level of Dream Team and I don’t exclude the “Briley” part. Let me put it like this….when you’ve worked as hard at this change as we all have….you’d refer to Mike, Anna, and Dale as the Dream Team too.

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#16 Aug 27, 2012
Think about it wrote:
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Please understand one thing. I do not dislike Mike. I dislike his record in government service. He is self serving in that respect. As far as Mike goes personally he is a nice guy. Ed Comber worked hand in hand with Rose when he was the twp clerk before. He had a personal feud going with the Ives Family Dining, and Ed and Rose were responsible for dismantling the DDA which had been in place at that time. Unfortunately I place Ed and Mike on about the same plane.
It's unfortunate that you dislike his public service record. You are, of course, free to vote for the alternative. I'm certain that making difficult decisions that encompass the majority of a community come at a steep cost. I'm sure Mike has made his fair share of difficult decisions that placed him in a bad light. I'm ready to move on about it.....are you?

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#17 Aug 27, 2012
Think about it wrote:
<quoted text>I will be voting for Dale and Anna.
As president of the Chamber of Commerce, Phil is not supposed to use the CoC for political purposes since it is technically apolitical. You claim that Phil fights hard for community unity. I have dealt with Phil on numerous occasions and have learned from personal experience that as long as you agree with Phil you are OK. If you dare to disagree with him or question him on decisions you are treated as a leper. Ask some of the people who worked very hard for the Chamber and made the mistake of criticizing something that Phil had done. Phil thinks nothing of dressing someone down in public without giving the other person the courtesy of rebuttal. I have heard of Phil telling people not to frequent certain businesses because of differences he has with them. His meetings are geared toward only positive comments of chamber functions. That is fine on the surface, but in order to improve you need to look at some of the things that didn’t work in order to correct them. You don’t need negativity, but discussing things that are negative can be used for positive purposes.
If a person works for his own benefit only it can have a negative effect on the community. The way I look at it is that you have an obligation to the community that elects you to work for the best interest of the community, not yourself. If the community benefits you will also benefit in the long run. If, however, work for your interests first the community could actually suffer as a result.
Phil has his agenda and it appears to many in the community that it is to turn the CoC into a money making business at the expense of the community. It is also being used as a political tool. If that is what he wants it should be incorporated as a political action committee, not a chamber of commerce. The Chamber is supposed to be promoting the commerce in the community, which it has not done.
I know you and respect your views as well as your motivation. I do think that you have not seen the negative side of Phil. Try disagreeing with him sometime. As to Kevin I think he probably means well, but he has a weird way of showing it at times. He and Mike used to announce the Husky football games. They stopped doing that because they picked sides about a school board issue involving the then superintendent. They obviously didn’t put the students, athletes and their supporters, as their first preference. Kevin and Mike also announce the bump and run at the fair grounds for years. They no longer do that either. That event is sponsored by the Atlanta Sports Boosters which has pumped tens of thousands of dollars into our school athletic programs. They run an absolutely fantastic organization. Their president also had issues with school administration/board, but it has not stopped him from working for the kids. I respect him highly. While announcing one of the bump and runs Kevin made a comment about one of the student participants saying that the student went to Atlanta schools and was still able to read. Many in the audience were outraged to the point that they protested to the Sports Boosters. Mike and Kevin were ultimately replaced as announcers. This is the same Mike that you are supporting for Twp Supervisor. I believe he has a track record of this type of activity where he places his personal agenda above the good of the community.
You say change is good, and sometimes it is, but if change is only on the surface to make people think you have matured it is not a change but a front.
This is so unfortunate! For some reason, unknown by me...you have more than a few preconceived ideas.

1. Phil does NOT….not EVER use the CoC as a political spring-board. Many of our members are NOT actively political and would never stand for that. All political discussions ALWAYS take place far from CoC property, and NEVER, EVER during a CoC meeting. Anyone who attempts to discuss local dissent is asked to leave.

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#18 Aug 27, 2012
2. If you disagree with Phil, then you simply agree to disagree. If he’s in charge of making a final decision that does not require a vote….then he da man. You can give your opinion and you may be correct….guess that just means he gets to learn the hard way, right? I’ve had plenty of run-ins with Phil….heated ones, very heated, and there have been a few occasions where we just flat-out avoided each other. But one thing binds us; our focus and our goal remains the same….the betterment of Atlanta and the people who live here.

3. There’s criticism, and then there’s constructive criticism. Depending on which one you used, how you used it, and how many you shared with before confronting, determines the outcome of the business at hand and the relationship

4. I’ve never heard Phil request someone not “shop there”, or “eat there.” It doesn’t sound like him either.

5. The Chamber is a wonderful, productive group of volunteers that work very, very hard at promoting Atlanta….I have no idea where you came up with the idea that we’re trying to turn it into a political money making business. I use the word “we” because the CoC is a group of people that is NOT controlled by one man. Because I don’t know how you came to this decision, I’ll consider you misinformed. Yes….we want to make money so we can pay for the fireworks, and bring better and more interesting events to this area, as well as further support the area businesses and help them grow. That’s what we’ve been doing, and will continue to do.

6. Kevin is as fallible as me, you, Mike, Phil, your neighbor, my neighbor and the list is absolutely endless.

7. I’d ask Jesus Christ to fill the position of Briley Township Supervisor, but I’m afraid someone from the community would nail him to a cross. Right from the get-go I’ve stated that Mike isn’t perfect…but he’s perfect for this position. He knows how to get the job done, and done right….foibles and all.

8. This particular change is good. I can feel it.

This particular topic is about Mike, Dale, and Anna running for various positions within our township. It isn’t about Phil or the Chamber, or what someone did 17 years ago…that would be under a different thread. From here on out, let’s keep on topic. By the way…should you see my Jeep at John’s….stop in and I’ll by ya a coffee! I have a pretty good idea of who you are too &#61514;
Think about it

Roscommon, MI

#19 Aug 27, 2012
Scarlettears wrote:
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This is so unfortunate! For some reason, unknown by me...you have more than a few preconceived ideas.
1. Phil does NOT….not EVER use the CoC as a political spring-board. Many of our members are NOT actively political and would never stand for that. All political discussions ALWAYS take place far from CoC property, and NEVER, EVER during a CoC meeting. Anyone who attempts to discuss local dissent is asked to leave.
My ideas are anything but preconceived. They are from first hand experience. I take everyone on his own merits and actions not on hearsay.

I did not bring Phil into this thread. After he was brought up I made a comment to which you stepped up in support of Phil. That being said I question your comment about what anyone EVER does. How do you know what he does when you are not around? I have seen, and if you are honest, you have seen Phil actively involved in Twp politics. He may not do it at a meeting, but he is the chamber president. As such he represents the chamber whether you or he likes it or not. Your comment that "Anyone who attempts to discuss local dissent is asked to leave" is rather telling. Local dissent can take many forms including dissent over how the chamber does something. You are correct in this observation because people who "dissent" from Phil's agenda are basically blackballed from the group. Talk to some of the avid supporters of the Chamber who no longer have anything to do with it.
Think about it

Roscommon, MI

#20 Aug 27, 2012
Scarlettears wrote:
2. I disagree with Phil and have done just that. I accept the fact that we disagree.
3. Any criticism I have ever made to Phil has been the constructive kind from my experience with issues that were basically new to him. His response to that has been to blow it off by simply saying that he will think about it. That's the last I heard of it.
4. Again, you may never have heard it, but you are not always present. Apparently those volunteers to the chamber who told me they were told that were lying because you never heard it.
5. You are right about he wonderful volunteers. I have no issue with them. You say it is not run by one person, but previously you said that when there are decisions to be made that are not up for a vote of the membership that he makes those decisions. Many of those decisions are quite unilateral. Just because you and I don't agree doesn't make me any more uninformed than you are. With the political activity of Phil, even outside of the meetings, the chamber is being viewed as a political organization. The money making events of the chamber take precedent to the support of the business community of the area.
6. Agreed.
7. If you are trying to compare Mike to Jesus Christ you are sick, mentally. I don't think that is what you were trying to do, but bringing Him into this thread is ridiculous since He is obviously not what this thread was about.
8. I have no problem with discussing the three individuals mentioned. I have stated my views on those three and will stand by them. I said that I totally support Dale and Anna, but I cannot support Mike for the reasons given. So now, if you wish to be true to your word, we must agree to disagree.

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