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“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

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#27317 Oct 15, 2013
mororic mutt wrote:
<quoted text>who did the poll? which way did the pollsters lean? see what I mean?
Are you denying that the MSM is left wing? Seriously? lol Come ON, MM. Okay. If you are going to suggest that the MSM is NOT left wing, then I am going to suggest that FOX is NOT right wing. How about that?
It's been quite some time ago, but I think it was a Pew Research poll. I can't swear to it, but I think it was. It "could" have been Reuters. Just not sure.
If you've ever listened to Brian Williams on NBC, you wouldn't even be asking.

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

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#27318 Oct 15, 2013
just sayin wrote:
A thought.
Let's say you are calling the shots for the NFL. You're in the entertainment business, right?
Now what would you rather have, two teams that never play each other or a "classic rivalry"?
Easy, the rivalry, because more people will engage and spend their money to cheer for their team and by extension enrich the league.
Any chance there's a couple of red phones between the left and right media just to keep the rivalry going?
It may not be this level of collusion, but both sides play against the middle, precisely where most of us live.
Hearst was mistakenly credited with stating, "you supply the pitures and I'll supply the war", a lie that was until very recently taught as fact in many schools and was designed to do what exactly?
Destroy the integrity of journalists or produce the military industrial complex myth? Both?
We are lied to by media, the business community, educators and government. These lies help form our belief system and when we are fully indoctrinated, the real wars begin.
Why do you believe that what you believe is really real?
Your last sentence nails it. No. I'm not sure that what I'm hearing or what everyone else is hearing is real. The Truman Show? Who knows?
mororic mutt

Cordele, GA

#27319 Oct 15, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
<quoted text>
If I may jump into this, I thought "just saying"'s answer was excellent. And a network news station that was truly unbiased would be wonderful, but I don't see it happening. I would presume you would not deny that, besides Fox, every news network and other news show (ABC, CBS, NBC) has a leftward slant.
That is what makes them MSM, not their popularity - or lack of same. With the advent of the internet and the proliferation of cable news, the public has access to far more information than ever before. People can research issues on their own, but when every other station colors their reporting to disparage one side of the political debate, is it any wonder that conservatives have an "us against the world" mentality, though in reality it is simply an "us against the Left leaning politicians and the news media that agrees with them and supports them".
The link at the end of the post cites prior polling and surveys over decades that show the liberal leaning of national journalists and the DC journalists, depending on the poll/survey. It also shows how the media as a whole is far more left leaning than the American public at large. One example, in 1992, Clinton won the election with only 43% of the electorate, but 91% of the nation's "top journalists" voted for him. A look at the section comparing how the White House Press Corps voted compared to the general public is also illuminating.
My point is that that Leftward slant comes through in their reporting and for a member of the public who does not look for other information for themselves, either through the internet or through a right leaning news source will not come away with the big picture. Does anyone REALLY believe that Republicans hate children and old people and minorities? But when NEWSWEEK comes out with a magazine cover "The Gingrich who stole Christmas" after the 1994 election - is it any surprise that people looked on Gingrich as a threat? The Tet offensive was a victory for the United States military but ask most anyone old enough to understand the question and most will answer that it was a defeat. Why - because that is how Walter Cronkite portrayed it. That is the power of the media - fortunately that power is no longer so centralized.
http://archive.mrc.org/biasbasics/biasbasics3...
I know that I said I wasn't going to do this but I can't resist asking. If their left wing bias is what designates them as MSM, then what do you call a right wing network/program? How about S&M- kiddin!

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#27320 Oct 15, 2013
mororic mutt wrote:
<quoted text>I don't want to get into a long drawn-out argument with you, Ag(hell, I might lose:). But who determines whether CBS, NBC, etc. leans left or right? I bet that a liberal would see it much differently from a conservative. It does not bother me in the least that conservatives have FNC as their 'stalwart of truth'. Right wingers always accuse others of watching MSNBC, etc. I can honestly say that I spent more time typing this reply than I ever have watched it. In fact, I probably watch FNC more than any other news network- but not necessarily out of choice, most of my family, friends, etc. watch it religiously, so I can't help but to. I am sorry but I do think that too many right wingers do have some sort of 'persecution complex' and I think that this has led to their unwillingness to compromise. The democrats are not without blame either. I know people feel that we have "two parties disguised as one", but in my opinion, I have never the two parties more polarized. I just think this is bad and could have disastrous effects for all of us.
I agree that one's own political viewpoint greatly colors how one sees the news and of course we typically watch those who support our positions, it is only human nature. I would just like to see people be honest about it. I think I am safe in saying that we on the right bring up MSNBC because it is by far the most egregious of the Left leaning media. They picked the bottom of the barrel to come up with the hosts of those shows. Which also probably explains its dismal ratings. But do you really think you can argue that ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and all their various cable outlets slant left? And against all those networks favorable to the Dems there stands ONE little station, FOX news - and the Left can't stand that it exists at all, they want their monopoly back. And to add insult to injury, FOX blows them out of the water in prime time.

And wouldn't you have a persecution complex too if you were called a racist just because you happen to disagree with the Democrat position of encouraging dependence on the government or because you disagree with the Democrat president who just happens to be black. It doesn't matter how much evidence a conservative gives to support their position, the default position is that they're racist - I think you will agree that the Libs on this forum have proven that is the "weapon" of choice time and time again.

And just who is unwilling to compromise here? Reid and Obama stated over and over that "we will not negotiate until Obamacare is funded and the govt shutdown is ended." And if the Republicans cave (which I still fear based on McConnell and Boehner being the leaders) then they have just lost any leverage with which to negotiate so by default Dems win. That's the true extortion, the Republicans offered to fund EVERYTHING but Obamacare, and to then negotiate on that. It was the Dems who chose to make this as painful as possible for as many people as possible.

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#27321 Oct 15, 2013
mororic mutt wrote:
<quoted text>I know that I said I wasn't going to do this but I can't resist asking. If their left wing bias is what designates them as MSM, then what do you call a right wing network/program? How about S&M- kiddin!
sigh..........
mororic mutt

Cordele, GA

#27322 Oct 15, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you denying that the MSM is left wing? Seriously? lol Come ON, MM. Okay. If you are going to suggest that the MSM is NOT left wing, then I am going to suggest that FOX is NOT right wing. How about that?
It's been quite some time ago, but I think it was a Pew Research poll. I can't swear to it, but I think it was. It "could" have been Reuters. Just not sure.
If you've ever listened to Brian Williams on NBC, you wouldn't even be asking.
Doesn't MSM= main stream media? If so, then I would say that part of it most certainly does have a 'left bias', like MSNBC, for example. But another part(ie.FNC) is right wing and I think some others are more or less neutral. You are perfect example of the 'woe is us','they are all out to get us' paranoia that I was talking about.

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

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#27323 Oct 16, 2013
mororic mutt wrote:
<quoted text>Doesn't MSM= main stream media? If so, then I would say that part of it most certainly does have a 'left bias', like MSNBC, for example. But another part(ie.FNC) is right wing and I think some others are more or less neutral. You are perfect example of the 'woe is us','they are all out to get us' paranoia that I was talking about.
How about naming those "neutral" networks.
Interesting. I took the time to explain to you about a poll that I read months ago because YOU made an inflamatory statement about conservatives and now all of a sudden, I am the PERFECT example of what you were referring to. I'm not the least bit paranoid about the media. The proof is there. You just happen to support the same side it does, so it's easy for you to feign surprise at statements in regard to biasness. I had the audacity to call to mind a reversal of thinking that you had in a previous post and THAT is what has ticked you off. Let me understand the rules of how we are to play the game. YOU toss out the insults and I ( and the rest of us) agree with you. Is that what I ( and the rest of us) need to remember? Now, I am going to tell you what YOU are a perfect example of. You are a perfect example of someone with a hair trigger temper.
just sayin

Dawsonville, GA

#27324 Oct 16, 2013
mororic mutt wrote:
<quoted text>good post- another thought, the current congressional standoff kinda reminds me of old cold war days- USA vs. USSR, you know, there were a lot of people who actually thought that an all-out nuclear war was "winnable".
You may be on to something there. The idea of mutually assured destruction is the real deterrent.
How do we here in our little north Georgia community
slow down the speeding train of mutually assured destruction in the form of political disagreement?
I don't trust the politicians to do it, they would lose their power.
We could start this by simply stopping the hurling of insults.
We could quit regurgitating the political lines fed to us and by asking genuine questions.
I'm going to give it a try because oviously the alternative is not working.
gored moniker thingy

Cordele, GA

#27325 Oct 16, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>
How about naming those "neutral" networks.
Interesting. I took the time to explain to you about a poll that I read months ago because YOU made an inflamatory statement about conservatives and now all of a sudden, I am the PERFECT example of what you were referring to. I'm not the least bit paranoid about the media. The proof is there. You just happen to support the same side it does, so it's easy for you to feign surprise at statements in regard to biasness. I had the audacity to call to mind a reversal of thinking that you had in a previous post and THAT is what has ticked you off. Let me understand the rules of how we are to play the game. YOU toss out the insults and I ( and the rest of us) agree with you. Is that what I ( and the rest of us) need to remember? Now, I am going to tell you what YOU are a perfect example of. You are a perfect example of someone with a hair trigger temper.
I really don't watch the networks(CBS,NBC,ABC) news enough to make an objective analysis, but I think that it is just a 30 minute broadcast, right. Okay, at least ten minutes of that is commercials, that leaves about 20 for news, of which most is about current events like floods, earthquakes, murders, etc., now you are trying to tell me that Brian Williams(or WHOMEVER) can somehow use the minute or two left to preach the virtues of the far left, socialism, the welfare state, etc.? C'mon now, and this the threat you perceive. OMG! boogymen everywhere.
just sayin

Dawsonville, GA

#27326 Oct 16, 2013
I was just thinking (I know, a miracle) about the media argument going on and I have a question or two.
When was the last time any of us read or listened to or watched hard news that wasn't actually commentary?
Where did you find it?
It wasn't from Bill (it's all about me ) O'Reilly or Rachel (I hate the world) Maddow or Sean (I'll scream over you till you stop talking) Hannity or Dan (I'll make it up if I can't prove it) Rather.
gored moniker thingy

Cordele, GA

#27327 Oct 16, 2013
just sayin wrote:
I was just thinking (I know, a miracle) about the media argument going on and I have a question or two.
When was the last time any of us read or listened to or watched hard news that wasn't actually commentary?
Where did you find it?
It wasn't from Bill (it's all about me ) O'Reilly or Rachel (I hate the world) Maddow or Sean (I'll scream over you till you stop talking) Hannity or Dan (I'll make it up if I can't prove it) Rather.
very good point- and I get most of mine right here on the laptop, yahoo news(which comes from various sources like reuters, ap., etc.)BTW, I thought it was "what's the frequency, Dan(Rather)".:))
whom

Broken Arrow, OK

#27328 Oct 16, 2013
We've seen it before.....

"In 1902 Argentina was one of the world's richest countries. Little more than a hundred years later, it is poverty-stricken, struggling to meet its debt obligations amidst a drought."

And now the liberals in America want to do a remake of Argentina....


http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/11/dont...

whom

Broken Arrow, OK

#27329 Oct 16, 2013


Here are some photos you'll never see in mainstream media, as they want to take over before mainstream America realizes what's going on....


I do believe I see some topix posters in the photos, or maybe just exact replicas.....

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2010/10/15-p...




like you

Dawsonville, GA

#27330 Oct 16, 2013
just sayin wrote:
<quoted text>Yup, I am sometimes guilty of listening to those in agreement with me, but it isn't hard to see through tactics that have been used at other times in history.
Give it a try, you might be surprised at what you find. Have a wonderful day.
The healthcare bill is law, passed by Congress, signed by the President and upheld as lawful by the Supreme Count. That's all three braches of government as the Constitution requires. Now a minority who have tried in Congress without any hope of success time and time again to change the LAW and failed every time.

A small group with a single minded agenda takes control of the House using pure an simple blackmail to try and do something they couldn't do by the legal means laid out in the Constitution. Putting the county in jeopardy in what has become a personal agenda for a few. You would think with all your skills you could see that, but you don't!

Heritage Action for America, a prominent conservative group, announced that it would “key vote” legislative action on the House proposal, holding “yes” votes against politically-vulnerable Republicans.

“Unfortunately, the proposed deal will do nothing to stop Obamacare’s massive new entitlements from taking root — radically changing the nature of American health care,” the group said in a statement.

You can't change or make law using blackmail and succeed, the American people are going to remember this for a very long time. You are killing the Tea Party, maybe that's what you want.

I personally hope you have the kind of day some government workers have that don't have any money coming in. Or people who may get sick because the CDC can't do its job, all because of selfish people like you.
total disconnect

Dawsonville, GA

#27332 Oct 16, 2013
whom wrote:
We've seen it before.....
"In 1902 Argentina was one of the world's richest countries. Little more than a hundred years later, it is poverty-stricken, struggling to meet its debt obligations amidst a drought."
And now the liberals in America want to do a remake of Argentina....
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/11/dont...
I hate to break the news to you, but most countries in the world have some form of public health care, and the public as a whole gets better care. Look at the US, ratings toward the middle of the pack in health care provided to its citizens. This happened under the system you have fallen in love with that works so well in your mind. We are also on the verge of defaulting on our government obligations for the second time in a few years. The real estate marked and home values are in shambles and this all while this prefect health care system you so love was in place. Blood work at the hospital in Blairsville costs $1200, the same thing at the local health department costs $350. I could go on and on, but you won't pay any attention. You have attention deficit disorder with periods of total mental disconnect caused by conservative talk radio & TV.
whom

Broken Arrow, OK

#27333 Oct 16, 2013
like you wrote:
<quoted text>
The healthcare bill is law, passed by Congress, signed by the President and upheld as lawful by the Supreme Count. That's all three braches of government as the Constitution requires. Now a minority who have tried in Congress without any hope of success time and time again to change the LAW and failed every time.
A small group with a single minded agenda takes control of the House using pure an simple blackmail to try and do something they couldn't do by the legal means laid out in the Constitution. Putting the county in jeopardy in what has become a personal agenda for a few. You would think with all your skills you could see that, but you don't!
Heritage Action for America, a prominent conservative group, announced that it would “key vote” legislative action on the House proposal, holding “yes” votes against politically-vulnerable Republicans.
“Unfortunately, the proposed deal will do nothing to stop Obamacare’s massive new entitlements from taking root — radically changing the nature of American health care,” the group said in a statement.
You can't change or make law using blackmail and succeed, the American people are going to remember this for a very long time. You are killing the Tea Party, maybe that's what you want.
I personally hope you have the kind of day some government workers have that don't have any money coming in. Or people who may get sick because the CDC can't do its job, all because of selfish people like you.

Duhhh....
Like you've already said this 10,000 times before...
And conservatives have said 10,000 times the House has constitutional authority to vote any dam way it chooses.

Now if you want a dictatorship, an oligarchy, socialism, communism, or just a big daddy to care for you, it's finally here.
So why are you bitching about a problem today that becomes a bigger problem tomorrow.......



aint gonna happen

Dawsonville, GA

#27334 Oct 16, 2013
whom wrote:
Here are some photos you'll never see in mainstream media, as they want to take over before mainstream America realizes what's going on....
I do believe I see some topix posters in the photos, or maybe just exact replicas.....
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2010/10/15-p...
You think this is NEWS!?!?!? Its nothing new, we also have an active Communist Party in the U.S. It's a big country with a people free to think and do what they want within the law. The Tea Party is great example that ranks right up there with the 2 mentioned above.

Its our constitutional right to be nuts and out of touch with reality, again look at the Tea Party.

( Just to be clear, the Tea Party was and is a good idea, its just been hijacked by the idiot fringe that are hell bent on molding the country in their vision, ain't gonna happen)
whom

Broken Arrow, OK

#27335 Oct 16, 2013
total disconnect wrote:
<quoted text>
I hate to break the news to you, but most countries in the world have some form of public health care, and the public as a whole gets better care. Look at the US, ratings toward the middle of the pack in health care provided to its citizens. This happened under the system you have fallen in love with that works so well in your mind. We are also on the verge of defaulting on our government obligations for the second time in a few years. The real estate marked and home values are in shambles and this all while this prefect health care system you so love was in place. Blood work at the hospital in Blairsville costs $1200, the same thing at the local health department costs $350. I could go on and on, but you won't pay any attention. You have attention deficit disorder with periods of total mental disconnect caused by conservative talk radio & TV.

Well ugly eve, you are wrong, what else is there to say other than it's time for you to go pick cotton and lay off your nose.


Oh, I know....
I dont know anything about blairsville hospital versus health departments but if it's anything like here in toccoa then severals things pop out where libroids minds fell to venture....

Like for instance, health departments are totally supported by tax dollars, and hospitals are not.....a clear case of a libroid mind which cant grasp the significance of the difference...


so ramble on in your dream libroid world, and keep hoping for healthcare nirvana.. When you find it, please tell us about it because Obamacare is NOT it...

whom

Broken Arrow, OK

#27336 Oct 16, 2013
aint gonna happen wrote:
<quoted text>

Its our constitutional right to be nuts and out of touch with reality.


yes it is, and you are a fine, fine example...

Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#27337 Oct 16, 2013
That dang liberal bias raises it's head again, and again, aqnd again, poor conservative thought it's just soooo misunderstood...

The Affordable Care Act is socialized medicine!
(Except it's not. Though I wish it was.)
http://mediamatters.org/research/2013/10/01/1...

The public was notified quickly after that 20,000-gallon oil spill in North Dakota.
(Except it wasn't.)
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-busi...

The earth is cooling.
(Except it's not.)
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/10/science/ear...

John Boehner has made good on his promise to focus like a laser on jobs, jobs, jobs.
(Except he hasn't, hasn't, hasn't.)
http://thegavel.democraticleader.house.gov/...

Social Security is going broke, it adds to the deficit, and we have to raise the retirement age because people are living longer.
(Except it's not, it doesn't and we don't.)
http://pol.moveon.org/ssmyths/

We can't try terrorist suspects on American soil!
(Except we can.)
http://news.yahoo.com/libyan-pleads-not-guilt...

The Affordable Care Act is a "job killer."
(Except "it's not.")
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-10-05...

Repealing the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy in 2011 caused a drop in enlistments, hurt unit cohesion, compromised national security and lowered troop morale.
(Except No, No, No and No.)
http://www.hrc.org/blog/entry/two-years-after...

Free birth control leads to more abortions and higher health care costs.
(Except it doesn't.)
http://www.nbcnews.com/health/free-birth-cont...

Sarah Palin has become smart enough that she doesn't need to write crib notes on her hand during public functions anymore.
(Except, yeah…she does.)
http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2013/10/palins-h...

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