Ashland Beverage Center

Ashland Beverage Center

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Bob

Elizabethtown, KY

#1 Jul 3, 2009
I went to buy some beer at Ashland Beverage Center the other day and was refused because I only had a state ID. My question is why is the policy in place that only lets those with a drivers liscense to buy alcohol. My ID is valid and was issued at the courthouse. This seems discrimitory towards me because I am disabled and cannot drive. I aalso able to boy alcohol at restaurants and other places. I know kids try to use fake ids but come on I'm 31.
hello

Columbus, OH

#2 Jul 3, 2009
damn, that sux... and not to mention very stupid! you figure they can tell how old you are by your looks and im pretty sure you prob dont look like no damn teenager trying to buy beer with a fake id...

Since: May 09

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#3 Jul 4, 2009
So they will give alcoholic beverages to ppl that CAN drive drunk and therefore have the ability to drink and drive, but not to someone who DOESN'T DRIVE at all and therefore has no possibility of DUI? Makes soooo much sense!
Brandon Williams

Ashland, KY

#4 Jul 4, 2009
I think I have seen a sign inside about state ID's, but it is a stupid policy. Dont get me wrong, I think ABC is a good store, but if an ID is issued by the courthouse it should be valid to purchase alcoholic beverages with.

Since: Jul 10

United States

#5 Jul 20, 2010
Mommyof3Girls wrote:
So they will give alcoholic beverages to ppl that CAN drive drunk and therefore have the ability to drink and drive, but not to someone who DOESN'T DRIVE at all and therefore has no possibility of DUI? Makes soooo much sense!
not the point..
a state ID can be self-made.. as in it's fake..
Dude

United States

#6 Jul 20, 2010
So if you didn't drive there why didn't you have the driver buy it? The sign clearly says no state id's.
PinkFloydForever

Coal Center, PA

#7 Jul 20, 2010
I have worked around alcohol for over 20 years, a State ID is VALID to puchase alcohol, along with a drivers license, a picture passport, and military id. The person that refused to sell to you either didn't know what they were doing or just didn't want to sell to you.
Not So

Lynchburg, VA

#8 Jul 20, 2010
Every business has their right to accept or refuse certain forms of ID. They clearly state you must have a valid drivers license. I believe their reason for this is most likely that if you are under 21 your license are turned. Any ID can be altered but drivers license are a bit harder if your info is turned 90 degrees. It has nothing to do with not wanting to sell to anyone or not knowing what they were doing. It is company policy and employees are just following their orders of procedure. No one wants to lose their job so they do as their boss tells them. This was definitely not an employee decision.
PinkFloydForever

Coal Center, PA

#9 Jul 20, 2010
Not So wrote:
Every business has their right to accept or refuse certain forms of ID. They clearly state you must have a valid drivers license. I believe their reason for this is most likely that if you are under 21 your license are turned. Any ID can be altered but drivers license are a bit harder if your info is turned 90 degrees. It has nothing to do with not wanting to sell to anyone or not knowing what they were doing. It is company policy and employees are just following their orders of procedure. No one wants to lose their job so they do as their boss tells them. This was definitely not an employee decision.
Not so, every sign I have seen does NOT state that the only id that is acceptable is a license, they state that they check for ID's. There is a handbook issued to each alcohol provider with a picture of all acceptable id's from every state to compare to the id being given the clerk. If the customer has a STATE issued personal id, it is valid, it was issued by the state, it does not have to be a license. Passports and military id's are issued by the federal governmnet, and are valid. All the signs and info about id's say you must have a valid one, doesn't matter as long as it is one of the ones I mentioned. So it is either the clerk was ignorant or they did not want to sell the alcohol.And the law in Ky is not if you think they are under 21 to ask for an id, it is if they APPEAR to be under 27 yrs. old you must ask for id.
big z

Findlay, OH

#10 Jul 21, 2010
they are gay

Since: Jul 10

Columbus, OH

#11 Jul 21, 2010
king_dane wrote:
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not the point..
a state ID can be self-made.. as in it's fake..
AGAIN.. if you didn't read it the first time?
beachyguy

Coal Center, PA

#12 Jul 22, 2010
king_dane wrote:
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AGAIN.. if you didn't read it the first time?
Any ID can be made dunbass !
What

Grayson, KY

#13 Jul 22, 2010
king_dane wrote:
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AGAIN.. if you didn't read it the first time?
My state ID was made. It was made at the courthouse located at the seat of my county. It was made on the same machine as all driving permits and licenses are made. It is valid and is in no way easier to duplicate or alter, as any other KY ID. You seem to be highly opinionated and poorly informed.
Not So

United States

#15 Jul 22, 2010
PinkFloydForever wrote:
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Not so, every sign I have seen does NOT state that the only id that is acceptable is a license, they state that they check for ID's. There is a handbook issued to each alcohol provider with a picture of all acceptable id's from every state to compare to the id being given the clerk. If the customer has a STATE issued personal id, it is valid, it was issued by the state, it does not have to be a license. Passports and military id's are issued by the federal governmnet, and are valid. All the signs and info about id's say you must have a valid one, doesn't matter as long as it is one of the ones I mentioned. So it is either the clerk was ignorant or they did not want to sell the alcohol.And the law in Ky is not if you think they are under 21 to ask for an id, it is if they APPEAR to be under 27 yrs. old you must ask for id.
Read my post. Then you can start over. I never stated every sign. I stated they do have a sign on their door, the one you have to open to enter the store. It clearly states that only a valid Drivers License will be accepted as a form of ID. It is their right to do so. I also have been in the bar business for over 20 yrs, I am aware of your little handbook they give you when you attend TIPS training, but that is a guideline and every owner of an establishment is by no means bound to that. They can accept or deny whatever they want. Also, no one said anyone about appearing to be a certain age. The clerk was not ignorant nor did they just decide they didn't want to sell to this person. They have rules laid out for them by the person that signs their paycheck, they have to do what the owner says. I have shopped at ABC for years, their clerks are very knowledgable about what they sell. State employees for Alcohol Beverage Control work their store as they do all stores in the area that sell alcohol, they will make you present a valid Drivers License also, as it is the policy of the sotre. If this was not legal the practice would have been halted long ago. The guidebook states what you can accept, not that you must accept these forms of ID

Since: Jul 10

Columbus, OH

#16 Jul 22, 2010
beachyguy wrote:
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Any ID can be made dunbass !
beachy biytch
On The Edge

Coal Center, PA

#17 Jul 22, 2010
Not So wrote:
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Read my post. Then you can start over. I never stated every sign. I stated they do have a sign on their door, the one you have to open to enter the store. It clearly states that only a valid Drivers License will be accepted as a form of ID. It is their right to do so. I also have been in the bar business for over 20 yrs, I am aware of your little handbook they give you when you attend TIPS training, but that is a guideline and every owner of an establishment is by no means bound to that. They can accept or deny whatever they want. Also, no one said anyone about appearing to be a certain age. The clerk was not ignorant nor did they just decide they didn't want to sell to this person. They have rules laid out for them by the person that signs their paycheck, they have to do what the owner says. I have shopped at ABC for years, their clerks are very knowledgable about what they sell. State employees for Alcohol Beverage Control work their store as they do all stores in the area that sell alcohol, they will make you present a valid Drivers License also, as it is the policy of the sotre. If this was not legal the practice would have been halted long ago. The guidebook states what you can accept, not that you must accept these forms of ID
It may have been the policy of THAT store, but it is not the law concerning alcohol sales. Yes they have to do what the owner says, but the owner must follow state guidelines and laws to sell in the first place! As for TIPS training, you think the books are party favors? No they show the ACCEPTABLE forms of ID from all 50 states , that includes state id, drivers',passports, and military. And if the State of Kentucky says these forms of id PICTURED in the book and as record of law acceptable to buy alcohol, then the shop owner must follow the rules of the state. What part of state law, and owner discretion do you not understand? An owner cannot withhold sales to some one based on the fact it is a state issued id, when the state RECOGNIZES it as valid.
FLUFFY GAL

Wagoner, OK

#18 Jul 22, 2010
king_dane wrote:
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not the point..
a state ID can be self-made.. as in it's fake..
Now have you read your comment a state id can be self made well so can license. Some ppl don't know how to drive so therefore they can't have license i think as long as they have a ID and they are above the age to drink than they should able to buy.

Since: Jul 10

Nashport, OH

#19 Jul 23, 2010
you can make a state ID at your home, in your house

hopefully that will clear some air? it's not that difficult..
FunnyGirl

Coal Center, PA

#20 Jul 23, 2010
king_dane wrote:
you can make a state ID at your home, in your house
hopefully that will clear some air? it's not that difficult..
I can make many things at home, your point doesn't make sense. ANY ID can be reproduced to some degree, however security features don't normally copy over- but if the id is a state issued unaltered ID, it is valid. Yes we all agree fake IDs are around, but the original poster said it was state issued.....
Dude

United States

#21 Jul 23, 2010
Your missing the point! This is a private business. They are not owned by the state or federal government. They have the right to decide what type of i.d they will or will not accept. There is no law that states that must serve anyone. It is up to that business as to whom they do or do not serve. If you don't like it go somewhere else.

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