The truth does suc

Alexandria, VA

#963 Feb 1, 2013
the truth sux wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you really believe that? If you do then I've got a really good piece of land with an Oceanside view in Idaho that I'll sell ya real cheap.
Look at the facilities plan and you will see 633,000+ dollars on it for the fields, mainly football along with several million in other expenses that are not educationally relavent like expanding the administrative office at the high school or improvements to family res. and Central Office. Yep, the truth really does suc when you get to looking at how much money the board put down on the Facilities Plan (notice no new high school is on it, that was bs) for items that are not dire toy related to educating kids. It sux and it makes me sick!!!!
The truth does suc

Alexandria, VA

#964 Feb 1, 2013
Sorry auto correct, should be "directly related"
Neighbor

Russell, KY

#965 Feb 1, 2013
So if you don't want the tax vote "yes" to recall it. REMBER THAT FOLKS!! The wolves in sheeps clothing are at it again
VOTE YES

United States

#966 Feb 1, 2013
IF YOU ARE AGAINST THE TAX, VOTE YES TO REPEAL IT!!!!!
the truth sux

Ironton, OH

#967 Feb 1, 2013
voter wrote:
<quoted text>Well gee I don't know let me see first they decide to have a meeting the day after Christmas ( hoping everyone is to busy to come) then so if there is a recall the election will be on Feb the snowiest, coldest month of the year, then they sue the committee to try and stop the election, then hire a outside company to spread lies to the community but deny having hired the company and now the wording that will be on the ballot is very confusing and misleading so YEAH I see a little conniving going on open your eyes farther than their Butts and you could see the same thing!
And what does that have to do with the football field? That's what I was talking about.
the truth sux

Ironton, OH

#968 Feb 1, 2013
The truth does suc wrote:
<quoted text>Look at the facilities plan and you will see 633,000+ dollars on it for the fields, mainly football along with several million in other expenses that are not educationally relavent like expanding the administrative office at the high school or improvements to family res. and Central Office. Yep, the truth really does suc when you get to looking at how much money the board put down on the Facilities Plan (notice no new high school is on it, that was bs) for items that are not dire toy related to educating kids. It sux and it makes me sick!!!!
I haven't seen the plan but I will for sure look at it. Where did you see it? You are right. No new high school. And I think that all fields would be included in the plan.
the truth sux

Ironton, OH

#969 Feb 1, 2013
Neighbor wrote:
So if you don't want the tax vote "yes" to recall it. REMBER THAT FOLKS!! The wolves in sheeps clothing are at it again
What do you mean? Who are the wolves?
The record

Alexandria, VA

#970 Feb 1, 2013
the truth sux wrote:
<quoted text>
I haven't seen the plan but I will for sure look at it. Where did you see it? You are right. No new high school. And I think that all fields would be included in the plan.
go to the Kentucky Dept of Education Website, go to District/school Suport ( on blue on the left), go to the Word Facilities, go to overview, go to Facility Planning on the left, go down to the blue word +title: District Facility plan, go to Fairview and open the document. Take the time to look at what is really needed for educational purposes. Also, look at the districts most current budget which reflects a $830,000+ gain in revenue. Also, Fairview has a nice size contingency fund over and above the percentage required. Maybe not all the wants but the needs could be met at the current property tax rate. Let us know what you think.
The record

Alexandria, VA

#971 Feb 1, 2013
It would also be good for the 40% of out of district students to add to the revenue at the BOE office to help with their educational cost over what the state pays. Included in their educational cost of course facilities, The nine new classrooms would not be needed at a cost of Over $1,600,000 if the out of district kids were not here.
Facilities plan

Russell, KY

#972 Feb 1, 2013
DISTRICT "SHELL" SUBMISSION DATE: 8/4/08, mw A/E 8/19/08 (delete following Hearing)
KDE "SHELL" RESUBMISSION DATE: 8/5/08,to A/E 8/20/08 final 8/22/08 (delete following Hearing)
KBE APPROVAL DATE: DECEMBER 2008
FAIRVIEW INDEPENDENT SCHOOLS DISTRICT FACILITIES PLAN
PLAN OF SCHOOL ORGANIZATION
1. Current Plan
2. Long Range Plan
SCHOOL CENTERS
P-6, 7-12 P-5, 6-12
1. Secondary
a. Fairview High School (Main Bldg./Music/Gyms)
Refroe Building
2. Middle
a. None
3. Elementary
a. FairviewElementarySchool
Status
Permanent Transitional
Permanent
Organization
6-12 Center
P-5Center
Student add Enrollment
10% Capacity 529 481/466
341 310/425
Eff.%
$8,306,850 68%$1,676,140 68%$239,449 68%$518,805 68%$518,805 68%$478,897 68%$258,604 68%$383,118 68%$159,632
CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION PRIORITIES (Schedule within the 2008-2010 Biennium)
1c. Major renovation/additions of educational facilities; including expansions, kitchens, cafeterias, libraries, administrative areas, auditoriums, and gymnasiums.
1. Fairview High School Main Bldg./Music Building/Gymnasium 51,201 sf.
Major Renovation to include; sitework including paving and ADA requirements, demolition, interior slab replacement, interior/exterior wall renovation, interior finishes and accessories, door/frames/hardware replacement, window replacement, kitchen equipment replacement, HVAC, fire protection and annumciation, electrical replacement (including lighting), plumbing, data wiring, intercom and communication systems and ADA upgrades.
Contruct:
7 Standard Classrooms
2 Special Educ. Resourse
1 Science Lecture Lab
1 Drama Stage
1 Local Pref. Gym Addition 1 Media Center Addition
1 Kitchen Addition
1 Administration Addition
750 sf.
375 sf. 1,625 sf. 1,625 sf. 1,500 sf.
810 sf. 1,200 sf. 500 sf.
5,250 sf. 750 sf. 1,625 sf. 1,625 sf. 1,500 sf. 810 sf. 1,200 sf. 500 sf.
Facilities plan 2

Russell, KY

#973 Feb 1, 2013
CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION PRIORITIES (Regardless of Schedule)
4. Management support areas; Construct, acquisition, or renovation of central offices, bus garages, or central stores
1. Central Office 3,060 sf.
Major Renovation to include; sitework inlcuding paving and ADA requirements, door/frames/hardware replacement, fire protection and annunciation, electrical replacement (including lighting), communication systems and ADA upgrades.
2. FamilyResourceCenter(OldBoardO ffice) 988sf. Major Renovation to include; sitework inlcuding paving and ADA requirements, demolition,
interior finishes and accessories, door/frames/hardware replacement, HVAC, fire protection and annumciation, electrical replacement (including lighting), plumbing, data wiring and ADA upgrades.
5. Discretionary Construction Projects; Functional Centers; Improvements by new construction or renovation. Estimated Costs of these projects will not be included in the FACILITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT TOTAL.
1 Fairview High School Athletics
Major Renovation to include; pave parking facilities, new seating/bleachers at athletic field,
improve lighting and sound system, correct drainage, improve dugouts, redisign the track to meake it available to be used for track meets and provide lighting at the softbal and baseball fields.
$151,967
$113,818
DISTRICT UNMET NEED $12,692,267
$655,000
Facilities plan notes

Russell, KY

#974 Feb 1, 2013
Please look at the facilities plan. No new school!! Some items educationally relavent, some not. Remember Boyd County got a whole new 48 million dollar high school with their taxes, Fairview will not. Boyd County has a 3% utility tax but a much lower property tax rate. For the average property tax payer in Fairview they already pay close to what the typical tax payer in Boyd county pays. Here is the math: property tax rate in Boyd county is 52.8 for each 1,000 dollars of property tax value. Say the have $100,000 in their home and cars this would make their school tax $528, plus $50 for their nickel tax, plus $150 in utility tax equals $728. Now look at Fairview's tax rate at 68.9. The same $100,000 in property taxes in Fairview would be $689 ( with the utility tax amount given out by he board of $150 this would make the tax load $839 and still not have a new school). Food for thought here people.
Facilities plan notes 2

Russell, KY

#975 Feb 1, 2013
Now keep in mind 2.2 of thr 12 million on the plan are currently being done,
BITW

Alexandria, VA

#977 Feb 2, 2013
Without the central office and administrative offices our school would close down! These are the people that keep our school operating on a day to day basis! The family resource center helps so many children and familes in this area and they currently have a tiny office in the elementary school. Everything that is mentioned in the plans is to benefit the children. all of the kids...Everyone from the athletes to the kids that are involved in the arts(hence the stage) to every single child enrolled in FHS that will be using the computer lab on a daily basis. The staff and administration love our kids. i have never seen an atmosphere like the one at ALL of the Fairview Independent Schools! The people that are on here slandering the BOE and Mr.Musick should be ashamed of themselves! They are ALL great people that the community elected. Seriously, you people will bitch about anything! You will twist and turn everything until it is in your favor. Look on your current utility bills. You are paying the damn tax already, it's just going to another school district. So go ahead and vote to recall the tax. All you are doing is punishing our children and paying your money to another school district that will benefit kids you don't even know...
BITW

Alexandria, VA

#978 Feb 2, 2013
My thoughts wrote:
You are right when it gets down to it so much on the facilities plan does not deal directly with educational standards, core content, and educating students to meet their needs for college and career readiness, you know what a school os supposed to be doing. Here is the way I see it. The project going on currently at the high school will secure and update the building structurally at the cost of $2,200,000+. As I understand it state funds are being used on this, obviously this is educationally relavent. Here are the other items I see on the plan that I think are educationally relavent, the classrooms just maybe not this many, the science lab, and the media center. Here are the items which are NOT related to educational standards and core content, renovation of central office, renovation of family resource, extensive work on the fields, addition to the gym, addition to the kitchen, and the stage addition ( there are already two in the district), administration addition at the high school. So with NO new school in the plans and so little of what is on the facilities plan actually related to educating kids I see no need for the 3% utility tax in light of the high property tax rate already paid. Once again the revenue is already there when one looks over the financial records of the school system to make the necessary upgrades directly related to educating kids. Please everyone take the time to look at the facts.
I certainly hope that your child or children carry a 4.0 gpa because apparently your kids don't need any extra curricular activities or clubs to put on their college applications! Everything on the plan is beneficial to all the students in relation to their future educational plans.
OK

Alexandria, VA

#979 Feb 2, 2013
Facilities plan wrote:
DISTRICT "SHELL" SUBMISSION DATE: 8/4/08, mw A/E 8/19/08 (delete following Hearing)
KDE "SHELL" RESUBMISSION DATE: 8/5/08,to A/E 8/20/08 final 8/22/08 (delete following Hearing)
KBE APPROVAL DATE: DECEMBER 2008
FAIRVIEW INDEPENDENT SCHOOLS DISTRICT FACILITIES PLAN
PLAN OF SCHOOL ORGANIZATION
1. Current Plan
2. Long Range Plan
SCHOOL CENTERS
P-6, 7-12 P-5, 6-12
1. Secondary
a. Fairview High School (Main Bldg./Music/Gyms)
Refroe Building
2. Middle
a. None
3. Elementary
a. FairviewElementarySchool
Status
Permanent Transitional
Permanent
Organization
6-12 Center
P-5Center
Student add Enrollment
10% Capacity 529 481/466
341 310/425
Eff.%
$8,306,850 68%$1,676,140 68%$239,449 68%$518,805 68%$518,805 68%$478,897 68%$258,604 68%$383,118 68%$159,632
CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION PRIORITIES (Schedule within the 2008-2010 Biennium)
1c. Major renovation/additions of educational facilities; including expansions, kitchens, cafeterias, libraries, administrative areas, auditoriums, and gymnasiums.
1. Fairview High School Main Bldg./Music Building/Gymnasium 51,201 sf.
Major Renovation to include; sitework including paving and ADA requirements, demolition, interior slab replacement, interior/exterior wall renovation, interior finishes and accessories, door/frames/hardware replacement, window replacement, kitchen equipment replacement, HVAC, fire protection and annumciation, electrical replacement (including lighting), plumbing, data wiring, intercom and communication systems and ADA upgrades.
Contruct:
7 Standard Classrooms
2 Special Educ. Resourse
1 Science Lecture Lab
1 Drama Stage
1 Local Pref. Gym Addition 1 Media Center Addition
1 Kitchen Addition
1 Administration Addition
750 sf.
375 sf. 1,625 sf. 1,625 sf. 1,500 sf.
810 sf. 1,200 sf. 500 sf.
5,250 sf. 750 sf. 1,625 sf. 1,625 sf. 1,500 sf. 810 sf. 1,200 sf. 500 sf.
Ok, I don't see anything listed that other school don't already have. Thanks for posting. I will definitely vote in favor of tax now!!!
Facilities plan

Alexandria, VA

#980 Feb 2, 2013
OK wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok, I don't see anything listed that other school don't already have. Thanks for posting. I will definitely vote in favor of tax now!!!
. You are welcome. The real truth needs to be gotten out there so people can make their own decision about the situation. Now on the written info the board put out it states "our children deserve new buildings" please note there NO new buildings mentioned in the facilities plan at all. Other districts with the tax have that bring "new buildings".
OK

Alexandria, VA

#981 Feb 2, 2013
Facilities plan wrote:
<quoted text>. You are welcome. The real truth needs to be gotten out there so people can make their own decision about the situation. Now on the written info the board put out it states "our children deserve new buildings" please note there NO new buildings mentioned in the facilities plan at all. Other districts with the tax have that bring "new buildings".
Yes but these other districts are a lot bigger. Which means more money.
To BITW

Russell, KY

#982 Feb 2, 2013
BITW wrote:
Without the central office and administrative offices our school would close down! These are the people that keep our school operating on a day to day basis! The family resource center helps so many children and familes in this area and they currently have a tiny office in the elementary school. Everything that is mentioned in the plans is to benefit the children. all of the kids...Everyone from the athletes to the kids that are involved in the arts(hence the stage) to every single child enrolled in FHS that will be using the computer lab on a daily basis. The staff and administration love our kids. i have never seen an atmosphere like the one at ALL of the Fairview Independent Schools! The people that are on here slandering the BOE and Mr.Musick should be ashamed of themselves! They are ALL great people that the community elected. Seriously, you people will bitch about anything! You will twist and turn everything until it is in your favor. Look on your current utility bills. You are paying the damn tax already, it's just going to another school district. So go ahead and vote to recall the tax. All you are doing is punishing our children and paying your money to another school district that will benefit kids you don't even know...
. Nobody is talking about closing down the Fairview Central Office, obviously those services are needed lthough i think there could be a lot of tighting of the belt there. According to the schools financial records on the Kentucky Dept. of Education Website Fairview had 11% in their contingency fund while only 2% is required by law. This money could easily be used on the central office and/or the family resource center especially since property taxes have increased significantly every year for the past few years. My point is that according to their own revenue figures, which have gone up significantly, money is available for a good amount of items on the facilities plan, no 3% utility is needed. Additional property tax revenue could be ear marked for other projects in the future and yes unnecessary spending does need to stopped in order for the objectives on the facilities plan to be met. Frankly I think the items that directly effect academics should be looked at first for example the science lab and media center. In Other words make a priority list wih academics at the top and then go from there seems reasonable. One more thing, the people of this community that have paid high property tax rates for years are also "great people"
To BITW

Russell, KY

#983 Feb 2, 2013
BITW wrote:
<quoted text>
I certainly hope that your child or children carry a 4.0 gpa because apparently your kids don't need any extra curricular activities or clubs to put on their college applications! Everything on the plan is beneficial to all the students in relation to their future educational plans.
. Extracurriculars are fine and Fairview has adequate facilities already for these already and when it comes to football a much improved facility. Enough is enough already.

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