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Nurse Ratchett

Nicholasville, KY

#1 Jun 4, 2012
Was there a drug bust on High St. in Ashland?
yep

Ashland, KY

#2 Jun 4, 2012
yep pillbillies gone
Nurse Ratchett

Nicholasville, KY

#3 Jun 4, 2012
Great one more down and a zillion to go. You know people could report lots of them in the neighborhood but the police would let them know your name and they would terrorize ya! We could wipe these suckers out if the law would help. Wonder if she will get out since it was in a school district! My guess she will be out within a few days or less.
To Ms Ratchett

Ashland, KY

#4 Jun 4, 2012
They need help not jail. 50% of our prison inmates are from drug-related offenses. If you could take these people and help them fight their addiction instead of locking them up in a cage like animals then you would have less repeat offenders. You need to understand that most "drug dealers" are really just addicts who sell just to support their habit. Others steal. Now, the drug dealers that are in it for the money is a different story and the penalties should be as they are. I am one of the lucky ones who became an addict, hit bottom and received help. Now I am a functioning member of society with a job. Fortunately for me I never had to resort to selling due to the fact my job paid for my $150 a day habit. Others are not so fortunate and society should educate themselves on the disease of addiction before locking them up. We should look at different ways on how we deal with addicts rather than what we are doing now. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over yet expecting different results. What we are doing with these people who have this awful disease is insane!
yes

Palmyra, VA

#5 Jun 4, 2012
To Ms Ratchett wrote:
They need help not jail. 50% of our prison inmates are from drug-related offenses. If you could take these people and help them fight their addiction instead of locking them up in a cage like animals then you would have less repeat offenders. You need to understand that most "drug dealers" are really just addicts who sell just to support their habit. Others steal. Now, the drug dealers that are in it for the money is a different story and the penalties should be as they are. I am one of the lucky ones who became an addict, hit bottom and received help. Now I am a functioning member of society with a job. Fortunately for me I never had to resort to selling due to the fact my job paid for my $150 a day habit. Others are not so fortunate and society should educate themselves on the disease of addiction before locking them up. We should look at different ways on how we deal with addicts rather than what we are doing now. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over yet expecting different results. What we are doing with these people who have this awful disease is insane!
My question to you is, did you want help when you received it? Most of these people who get locked up do not want help, so i would much rather them be in jail then out on the street robbing me or wrecking their car and killing my loved ones!
well

Ashland, KY

#6 Jun 4, 2012
I think you are both right. inprisonment is counterproductive and treatment is the way to go, however, most addicts i know, as well as my self a few years ago have to be forced into it. Thats why i really like the concept of drug court. Every addict i know does not want to be an addict, they just dont know and are afraid to stop. Once it has controlled your life for so long its scary really to think about life without it, not to mention the fear of withdrawals, on a side note,they were not fun and im sure people react differently, but i had almost a 500 a day habit and it wasnt that bad, i think alot of it is in your head, anyway, thats why u have to force there hand. I always said the only time an addict is finally gona quit is when the threat of losing something they are not willing to lose becomes reality. Be it your wife and kids (which was my case) your freedom, or whatever. I hope people get the help they need, and treatment programs cost them money, jail cost me money.
neighbor

Ashland, KY

#7 Jun 4, 2012
To Ms Ratchett wrote:
They need help not jail. 50% of our prison inmates are from drug-related offenses. If you could take these people and help them fight their addiction instead of locking them up in a cage like animals then you would have less repeat offenders. You need to understand that most "drug dealers" are really just addicts who sell just to support their habit. Others steal. Now, the drug dealers that are in it for the money is a different story and the penalties should be as they are. I am one of the lucky ones who became an addict, hit bottom and received help. Now I am a functioning member of society with a job. Fortunately for me I never had to resort to selling due to the fact my job paid for my $150 a day habit. Others are not so fortunate and society should educate themselves on the disease of addiction before locking them up. We should look at different ways on how we deal with addicts rather than what we are doing now. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over yet expecting different results. What we are doing with these people who have this awful disease is insane!
This particular person doesn't want help. She does it so she can make money, and deserves to be where she is.
Nurse Ratchett

Nicholasville, KY

#8 Jun 4, 2012
To Ms Ratchett wrote:
They need help not jail. 50% of our prison inmates are from drug-related offenses. If you could take these people and help them fight their addiction instead of locking them up in a cage like animals then you would have less repeat offenders. You need to understand that most "drug dealers" are really just addicts who sell just to support their habit. Others steal. Now, the drug dealers that are in it for the money is a different story and the penalties should be as they are. I am one of the lucky ones who became an addict, hit bottom and received help. Now I am a functioning member of society with a job. Fortunately for me I never had to resort to selling due to the fact my job paid for my $150 a day habit. Others are not so fortunate and society should educate themselves on the disease of addiction before locking them up. We should look at different ways on how we deal with addicts rather than what we are doing now. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over yet expecting different results. What we are doing with these people who have this awful disease is insane!
Whatever I am not saying that some can't be rehabilitated but most don't want it. And if you don't want it you won't succeed at it. I have watched some of these people from 16 years old breed,love on welfare,governemnt pays for education they work a minute and get hurt and sue then on SSI and more free living plus selling drugs and not having a pot to piss in. I am sick of making excuses for these type of people. I and my family have worked our whole lives to support these people and their kids and grandkids who all live on welfare or SSi for one reason or another. If you work you would understand that then. You wanted to change so you did and I am happy for you and even more you are proud of yourself. But if we don't stop makeing excuses for people we are all done. They steal us blind and we use our homeowners our insurance goes up. The few working people in this town has to support it all. Taxes etc. Why are these lazy people better than those who have worked and lost their jobs and can't even afford medical care. They suffer while these people live at the ER at the end of the month with their whole family there and when a true sick person goes there not one seat or a nice person to get up and let you set down. It disgusts me. I don't care if you or anyone agrees with me. But I am sure if most of the working glass has the guts they will say the same thing. These drug dealers live in our neighborhoods we are not safe, our children are not safe such as this bust right in a school district and our elderly are not safe. I don't know where you live and it don't matter how rich or how poor they are next door to you or someone else and their family. No excuses anymore. I would rather build more jails than build a figgin million dollar riverfront. makes me mad when people make excuses. We were taught as children if raised by descent parents that you pay the price for your mistakes that is how you learn.
Nurse Ratchett

Nicholasville, KY

#9 Jun 4, 2012
neighbor wrote:
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This particular person doesn't want help. She does it so she can make money, and deserves to be where she is.
Amen neighbor. People need to get off their high horses and realize these people do this because they are too lazy to get a real job. And look how long this has been going on and probably still is with the others in the house. And those dogs right at the edge of her yard to protect her business. They should haul those dogs aways too before they bit some innocent child. They are just too close to the street.She will be out in no time and right back to it. Surprised they even busted her.
Nurse Ratchett

Nicholasville, KY

#10 Jun 4, 2012
well wrote:
I think you are both right. inprisonment is counterproductive and treatment is the way to go, however, most addicts i know, as well as my self a few years ago have to be forced into it. Thats why i really like the concept of drug court. Every addict i know does not want to be an addict, they just dont know and are afraid to stop. Once it has controlled your life for so long its scary really to think about life without it, not to mention the fear of withdrawals, on a side note,they were not fun and im sure people react differently, but i had almost a 500 a day habit and it wasnt that bad, i think alot of it is in your head, anyway, thats why u have to force there hand. I always said the only time an addict is finally gona quit is when the threat of losing something they are not willing to lose becomes reality. Be it your wife and kids (which was my case) your freedom, or whatever. I hope people get the help they need, and treatment programs cost them money, jail cost me money.
I understand what you are saying too. But what do we do they are taking over. What I don't understand this person in particular was such a cute girl and young woman and the drugs make her look 80 years old and she is only 50 why do they do this to themselves. She is not a dumb person was educated as an LPN years ago. Maybe I don't undertand but we can't keep understanding. our country is going under fast due to people just like this. The jails and courts are flooded. What is going to happen to our children and grandchildren especially if people like this sell and get our kids addicted. And we are called pillbillies and no one outside of this area knows that there are descent people trapped here due to a job or family. I just don't know what we should do.Stealing is at an high and continuing. They spend their welfare on drugs at first of month and then still the rest of the month. Crazy! And again don't everyone get their panties in a wad not all are like this a handful get help and succeed because they want it.
lol

Ironton, OH

#11 Jun 4, 2012
Does anyone know where on high street or who it was?Thats the neighborhood I grew up in as a child and pretty much all the same people live there. Kind of curious as to whether or not it is who I think it may be.
To Ms Ratchett

Ashland, KY

#12 Jun 4, 2012
yes wrote:
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My question to you is, did you want help when you received it? Most of these people who get locked up do not want help, so i would much rather them be in jail then out on the street robbing me or wrecking their car and killing my loved ones!
Yes. I was sick and tired of being sick and tired. Being a junkie is not fun. I understand something has to be done but the system is set up wrong to handle this problem. Drug Court has been the greatest success so far. I've known many to enter and I've yet to see one fail. The #1 reason they succeed is the support they receive. There should be more programs like this which helps stop the ugly cycle of addiction. If these same people were put in jail then statistics say they have a 9 out of 10 chance of relapsing when they get out. The cycle will begin again sooner or later without counseling or some form of help. Then society is back where it started. I'm not saying some people don't deserve to go to jail, yet, the system is broken.
yep

Ashland, KY

#13 Jun 4, 2012
lol it was noone from the old neighborhood lived there my whole life its relatives to a couple people there
Big Boy

Nicholasville, KY

#14 Jun 4, 2012
To Ms Ratchett wrote:
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Yes. I was sick and tired of being sick and tired. Being a junkie is not fun. I understand something has to be done but the system is set up wrong to handle this problem. Drug Court has been the greatest success so far. I've known many to enter and I've yet to see one fail. The #1 reason they succeed is the support they receive. There should be more programs like this which helps stop the ugly cycle of addiction. If these same people were put in jail then statistics say they have a 9 out of 10 chance of relapsing when they get out. The cycle will begin again sooner or later without counseling or some form of help. Then society is back where it started. I'm not saying some people don't deserve to go to jail, yet, the system is broken.
I am sure you were sick of being sick and tired and that is why you made the change you wanted it more than you wanted to remain a druggie. Honestly it is just not that easy of a fix. Most of the people on drugs are generation druggies and they have no support. If you don't have strong family support chances are very slim that you will succeed. Ok I agree with one try. The tax payers pay one time and if the attitude doesen't change in a bit after being in rehab then send them back to jail. You just can't continue to send them to rehab time after time. And child after child that is put in foster homes and then put right back with these people and they repeat. Not fair to the children. They need a life a good life so they don't do the same. Don't you agree that the children of these people deserve better atleast. Again I am so happy you succeeded.
Nurse Ratchett

Nicholasville, KY

#15 Jun 4, 2012
yep wrote:
yep pillbillies gone
Nope bond set at $50,000 cash. Her drug lord will get her out if business has been good. Or better tie down your valuables they will be stolen and sold for bail. She shouldn't be eligible for bail in a school district out children are no safe at all. We need to watch them very close. All the wierdo coming in and out.They drop them off and drive the block and come back and pick up. If we can see that why can't the authorities. They don't care. Someone is getting paid off for all this drug dealing. They are on every street,every block....everywhere. Rich or poor neighborhoods.
s ashland

Rush, KY

#16 Jun 5, 2012
patty bartley.lives in same neighborhood all her life!her sister melissa and theiving son ,when hes not in jail lives next to her!things got hot for a while they went to s.carolina till they were run back here !not victims,not sick people,just selfish, lazy !like 95 percent of the sick and society victims the above person was making excuses for!you have to want to change and quit blaming everyone but yourself to be cured of your disease !duh !yeah letsgive them more money more free everything so they can thrive !
s ashland

Rush, KY

#17 Jun 5, 2012
oh and let them keep on breeding more of the same,generations are spawned from these kind of people with no stopping in sight !if there are victims ,the children and taxpayers are the ones who are victims !!we didnt do anything but get up and go to work every day and year after year,,we must be the ones with illness we cant help !!
To Ms Ratchett

Ashland, KY

#18 Jun 5, 2012
Big Boy wrote:
<quoted text>I am sure you were sick of being sick and tired and that is why you made the change you wanted it more than you wanted to remain a druggie. Honestly it is just not that easy of a fix. Most of the people on drugs are generation druggies and they have no support. If you don't have strong family support chances are very slim that you will succeed. Ok I agree with one try. The tax payers pay one time and if the attitude doesen't change in a bit after being in rehab then send them back to jail. You just can't continue to send them to rehab time after time. And child after child that is put in foster homes and then put right back with these people and they repeat. Not fair to the children. They need a life a good life so they don't do the same. Don't you agree that the children of these people deserve better atleast. Again I am so happy you succeeded.
I agree with just about everything you said. You're right about family support and luckily I had that. Your statement that "most of the people on drugs are generation druggies" made me think. First, most people I know that have a father or mother who had/has problems with drugs usually see the destruction and stay away from them when they grow up. I understand other families are different but I don't believe you should just throw them in jail b/c they aren't lucky enough to have family support. Drug court does have taxpayers pay one time and if they don't change they go back to jail. This keeps families together with a drug free home. It's a win-win for society and the family involved.
agree dat

Ashland, KY

#19 Jun 5, 2012
s ashland wrote:
patty bartley.lives in same neighborhood all her life!her sister melissa and theiving son ,when hes not in jail lives next to her!things got hot for a while they went to s.carolina till they were run back here !not victims,not sick people,just selfish, lazy !like 95 percent of the sick and society victims the above person was making excuses for!you have to want to change and quit blaming everyone but yourself to be cured of your disease !duh !yeah letsgive them more money more free everything so they can thrive !
So agree she was arrested for trafficing not abusing.. there is a difference.. the addicts are all the ppl buying from her
To Ms Ratchett

Ashland, KY

#20 Jun 5, 2012
I have no idea who you are talking about so I will agree she was arrested for trafficking. I was trying to point out that most low level drug "dealers" are actually addicts who sale the crap to support their addiction. The only way for these type of people to support their habit is to sale or steal. If society did a better job of getting help for the addicts then you would see a drop in drug "dealers". Now, if this person was selling drugs solely for monetary reasons then I would agree for stronger measures. Yet, from my past experience about 90% sold to support their habit. I know it's not right for any reason but if you want to solve this problem then society is going to have to "think outside the box". What we are doing now is not working. Don't you agree? The war on drugs started in the 80's. Have you seen the drug problem get better or worse since that time?

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