Just Laying Around, Enjoying Unemployment Checks.

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Tommy

London, KY

#1 Oct 22, 2011
Some people really love those unemployment checks. They becomes like welfare to them after a while. Is it really that hard to find a new job after being laid off? I don't think so. I was laid off from work last February and I found a new, better-paying job in 2 weeks. I never needed a single unemployment check. Some people will use anything for an excuse to draw some kind of a government check.

“Hell is coming to breakfast”

Since: Jul 11

Ashland

#2 Oct 22, 2011
Tommy wrote:
Some people really love those unemployment checks. They becomes like welfare to them after a while. Is it really that hard to find a new job after being laid off? I don't think so. I was laid off from work last February and I found a new, better-paying job in 2 weeks. I never needed a single unemployment check. Some people will use anything for an excuse to draw some kind of a government check.
Good for you, Tommy. It's also nice to see that you enjoy life and your new job so much that you don't engage in petty, baseless comments wherein you allege that unemployment compensation is abused.

I'll grant you, like every other aspect of American society, this has the potential for abuse. Yet, before you lambast too many, you might consider that some do not find jobs as quickly, some only work part-time, while others may have chosen to go back to school. Unemployment offices encourage the latter, and compensation may continue as a stipend of sorts as someone receives retraining for a new career. By no means is this income preferred or something on which anyone wants to live, but you do what you have to do.

Furthermore, for those who claim that UE lasts for these long stretches, you are partially correct. However, one can only draw for a lengthy period if they are working to some degree. The time over which the money can be drawn and the money itself have increased, but they have not increased by the amount that so many misinformed, and apparently bitter, people would like to believe. In other words, one cannot just draw UE indefinitely. That's simply not the case, and to suggest so is irresponsible.
hm

United States

#3 Oct 22, 2011
mrnobody2u wrote:
<quoted text>Good for you, Tommy. It's also nice to see that you enjoy life and your new job so much that you don't engage in petty, baseless comments wherein you allege that unemployment compensation is abused.

I'll grant you, like every other aspect of American society, this has the potential for abuse. Yet, before you lambast too many, you might consider that some do not find jobs as quickly, some only work part-time, while others may have chosen to go back to school. Unemployment offices encourage the latter, and compensation may continue as a stipend of sorts as someone receives retraining for a new career. By no means is this income preferred or something on which anyone wants to live, but you do what you have to do.

Furthermore, for those who claim that UE lasts for these long stretches, you are partially correct. However, one can only draw for a lengthy period if they are working to some degree. The time over which the money can be drawn and the money itself have increased, but they have not increased by the amount that so many misinformed, and apparently bitter, people would like to believe. In other words, one cannot just draw UE indefinitely. That's simply not the case, and to suggest so is irresponsible.
Um, they can for at least 2 years and all they have to do is pretend to be looking for a job. That's too long, in my opinion.
BOOTSIE

Lebanon, KY

#4 Oct 22, 2011
hm wrote:
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Um, they can for at least 2 years and all they have to do is pretend to be looking for a job. That's too long, in my opinion.
So if you think 2 years is too long for UE for someone who obviously worked long enough to draw it. How long do you think is too long for welfare. Those people draw it their whole youth. Get pregnant at 15 and space them out and you get it until they are grown or start a family at 15 of their own and it goes on and on and on. It is a generation thing passed down. So how Long for welfare?
hm

United States

#5 Oct 22, 2011
BOOTSIE wrote:
<quoted text>So if you think 2 years is too long for UE for someone who obviously worked long enough to draw it. How long do you think is too long for welfare. Those people draw it their whole youth. Get pregnant at 15 and space them out and you get it until they are grown or start a family at 15 of their own and it goes on and on and on. It is a generation thing passed down. So how Long for welfare?
I think anything like welfare or ue should be very temporary. Especially if they're not going to school or really trying to get a job. I completely understand that things happen, but there should be something in place to keep people from abusing the system.., although I know the government is too broke to afford workers to monitor things like this... It's all a sad vicious circle.
Wth

Richmond, KY

#6 Oct 23, 2011
hm wrote:
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I think anything like welfare or ue should be very temporary. Especially if they're not going to school or really trying to get a job. I completely understand that things happen, but there should be something in place to keep people from abusing the system.., although I know the government is too broke to afford workers to monitor things like this... It's all a sad vicious circle.
Let's see I think you have to pay into unemployment before you can draw it,so I guess you are really drawling your own money...just a thought
BOOTSIE

Lebanon, KY

#7 Oct 23, 2011
hm wrote:
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I think anything like welfare or ue should be very temporary. Especially if they're not going to school or really trying to get a job. I completely understand that things happen, but there should be something in place to keep people from abusing the system.., although I know the government is too broke to afford workers to monitor things like this... It's all a sad vicious circle.
I agree with you. I have always heard that people can only stay on welfare for a short period of time but yet it is a career for most. I don't know anyone or have heard of anyone who has been made to go to work to support their herd of children. Somehow they always have a special needs child and get and SSI check on then which means they need to be home to care for the child. Go figure.
hm

United States

#8 Oct 23, 2011
Wth wrote:
<quoted text>Let's see I think you have to pay into unemployment before you can draw it,so I guess you are really drawling your own money...just a thought
We don't pay anything into it, our work has to pay into it for us while we're working. It doesn't come out of our gross income though. Employers are charged part of unemployment and the government pays the rest.
BOOTSIE

Lebanon, KY

#9 Oct 23, 2011
hm wrote:
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We don't pay anything into it, our work has to pay into it for us while we're working. It doesn't come out of our gross income though. Employers are charged part of unemployment and the government pays the rest.
well atleast the ones drawing it worked that is more than you can say for the lazy welfare people. Even if the government is paying part of it the workers paid taxes to cover it. Welfare people get tons of freebies and never work.

“Hell is coming to breakfast”

Since: Jul 11

Ashland

#10 Oct 23, 2011
hm wrote:
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Um, they can for at least 2 years and all they have to do is pretend to be looking for a job. That's too long, in my opinion.
Your opinion considers the economy and the difficulty for some to find a suitable job, right? By suitable I mean you made good money and until you find something close, stay on UE. Until you're in the position of unemployment, you really don't know. Perhaps you have been. Either way, for anyone to suggest an unemployed person should just take any job is wrong. Why would I give up more money in UE to take a job? Smells like jealousy and that some people loathe their jobs.
hm

New York, NY

#11 Oct 23, 2011
mrnobody2u wrote:
<quoted text>Your opinion considers the economy and the difficulty for some to find a suitable job, right? By suitable I mean you made good money and until you find something close, stay on UE. Until you're in the position of unemployment, you really don't know. Perhaps you have been. Either way, for anyone to suggest an unemployed person should just take any job is wrong. Why would I give up more money in UE to take a job? Smells like jealousy and that some people loathe their jobs.
I love my job and have successfully changed jobs twice in this recession. It's nothing about jealousy. A member of my family was on unemployment for 2 years and I know that it was extremely hard for him to get himself back in the workforce after sitting on his butt for that long. It changes your mindset. I feel great that I have a good job that I love, I just wish others would make the effort and that they could also know what it feels like.
Cassie

Sheridan, AR

#12 Oct 24, 2011
hm wrote:
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Um, they can for at least 2 years and all they have to do is pretend to be looking for a job. That's too long, in my opinion.
I agree. I know at least 10 people who have received unemployment checks and just laid around their home playing video games, watching t.v. and getting fatter, never looking for a job until their spouses or parents finally jumped their sh!t about it.

“Hell is coming to breakfast”

Since: Jul 11

Ashland

#13 Oct 25, 2011
hm wrote:
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Um, they can for at least 2 years and all they have to do is pretend to be looking for a job. That's too long, in my opinion.
The money doesn't last for two years. The time over which it can be drawn is for two years; this means that you'll have to have some work to stretch it that far. Very good for those who want to return to school and learn a new trade.
Good Job

Ashland, KY

#14 Oct 25, 2011
There is jobs out there if people really want to apply themselves and that is good idea to go to ACTC to learn a technical trade or a nursing degree, but are so many people that go to ACTC just for the loans, and college money they attempt not to go out looking for work, just want to be students and leave off those school and government checks.
hm

New York, NY

#15 Oct 25, 2011
mrnobody2u wrote:
<quoted text>The money doesn't last for two years. The time over which it can be drawn is for two years; this means that you'll have to have some work to stretch it that far. Very good for those who want to return to school and learn a new trade.
The person in my family drew the max ( I know it was over $800 bi-weekly) and did not go to school. It's great for people who make that effort though.
Right On

London, KY

#16 Oct 25, 2011
Good Job wrote:
There is jobs out there if people really want to apply themselves and that is good idea to go to ACTC to learn a technical trade or a nursing degree, but are so many people that go to ACTC just for the loans, and college money they attempt not to go out looking for work, just want to be students and leave off those school and government checks.
That is so True.

“Hell is coming to breakfast”

Since: Jul 11

Ashland

#17 Oct 26, 2011
Good Job wrote:
There is jobs out there if people really want to apply themselves and that is good idea to go to ACTC to learn a technical trade or a nursing degree, but are so many people that go to ACTC just for the loans, and college money they attempt not to go out looking for work, just want to be students and leave off those school and government checks.
Great job focusing on the small amount of abuse in an otherwise beneficial program. As for your "jobs out there" comment, if it pays more than what one lost (or atleast more than UE) they should take it. If it doesn't, don't take it.
poor thing.

New York, NY

#18 Oct 26, 2011
BOOTSIE wrote:
<quoted text>So if you think 2 years is too long for UE for someone who obviously worked long enough to draw it. How long do you think is too long for welfare. Those people draw it their whole youth. Get pregnant at 15 and space them out and you get it until they are grown or start a family at 15 of their own and it goes on and on and on. It is a generation thing passed down. So how Long for welfare?
Welfare give you only 5 years now.
well..

New York, NY

#19 Oct 26, 2011
BOOTSIE wrote:
<quoted text>well atleast the ones drawing it worked that is more than you can say for the lazy welfare people. Even if the government is paying part of it the workers paid taxes to cover it. Welfare people get tons of freebies and never work.
My best friend is on welfare. Her boyfriend died two months before she had her baby so he has no other way for income. She is far from lazy. She sits and take care of a little baby, goes to college so she can get a good job one day, and does a job through the welfare office and jamies sake. Please
Remember that they made welfare for a reason. Some people desperately need it.
TellItLikeItIs

Ashland, KY

#20 Oct 27, 2011
Personally disgusted with those I know on unemployment. Each and everyone is stealing from the working folks. States will soon have to repay federal loans they took out to keep those checks in the mail. When they do, you poor working stiffs will also be socked again with higher taxes, fees and less services. Remember this when your friends brag about how much they're collecting to lay on their butts. In fact, some are screwing you twice. They're collecting unemployment (and for 99 wks, no way was that much ever "paid into" by their employers), and working under the table as house-cleaners, pressure washers, landscapers, handymen, etc. Being paid under the table, and paying not a penny of taxes.

Extending unemployment benefits was stupid. You'll see employment rates soar when the free lunch ends. And tax revenues with it. If the country doesn't collapse under the debt.

So to all you friends collecting unemployment, and especially those of your working under the table, thanks for the double screwing and never, ever claim to be a patriot. You're as guilty of cheating the system and stealing from your neighbors as the worst of 'em. It's time someone tells it like it is. It's time these cheats working in the "underground economy" were reported. PAY YOUR FAIR SHARE.

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