boyd county fall brawl
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Ardsley, NY

#21 Oct 15, 2012
Lol wrote:
<quoted text>As a matter of fact I've been to hundreds of live events. All over Ky Oh, Tenn , W. Va , Fla to name a few. I've been in this sport longer than you have even known what it is. Make sure you know what you're talking about before you question someone's experience. I'm a licensed judge, ref, cornerman and trainer. So yes , I think I'm pretty qualified to talk about both MMA and boxing. " duh ". And exhibition or not, sending ANYONE into a combat sport with only a weeks training is pathetic.
The kid didn't just have a weeks training. He's been working on his boxing for a good while now. A good trainer will know his fighter and not put them in bad matches. His trainer knew his limits and have him the ok.
yup

Elizabethtown, KY

#22 Oct 15, 2012
Jarvis lost to Nache, but I guess that fight didn't spark your interest either. You just want to talk crap about people who have the courage to try and do something that they've wanted to do their whole lives. I sincerely doubt that you have ever been involved with anything because if you had been, then you would show more respect for the fighters, promoters, sponsors, refs, judges, etc rather than run your mouth about them. It's really easy to sit on your fat a** and run your mouth, why don't you try doing something instead of living in a fantasy world that you have created for yourself? I think the guys all did great! Team Evolution showcased their talent, and if they were undermatched, it wasn't because that's what they wanted. The other fighters all cage experience, and I know a few of team Evolution had never stepped into a cage before except to train. Don't hate on them because they had more talent!
Nice guy

Ardsley, NY

#23 Oct 15, 2012
You did disrespect them. You called them wannabe fighters
get real

Butler, PA

#24 Oct 15, 2012
Nice guy wrote:
Still no reason to talk shit about people trying. Was randy couture a pro when he first started. I think not. Everybody starts at the beginning. Think about it (lol)
i agree, if lol wants to criticize he/she/it/shemale, whatever the hell it is needs to start by looking in the mirror
Lol

Ashland, KY

#25 Oct 15, 2012
If they were undermatched? Kind of an understatement. And again, assume all you want. I guarantee I do more in this sport in a week than you will do this year. I'm surprised Todd Neal approved some of those fights. But he counts on being able to trust the promotor and the matchmaker. I promise if you rake the best from that fight card and put them up against some of the bottom tier fighters for Spartan, Hardrock or Absolute they would get destroyed. At least they had a decent ref ( Les ) to watch over some of those fights.
yup wrote:
Jarvis lost to Nache, but I guess that fight didn't spark your interest either. You just want to talk crap about people who have the courage to try and do something that they've wanted to do their whole lives. I sincerely doubt that you have ever been involved with anything because if you had been, then you would show more respect for the fighters, promoters, sponsors, refs, judges, etc rather than run your mouth about them. It's really easy to sit on your fat a** and run your mouth, why don't you try doing something instead of living in a fantasy world that you have created for yourself? I think the guys all did great! Team Evolution showcased their talent, and if they were undermatched, it wasn't because that's what they wanted. The other fighters all cage experience, and I know a few of team Evolution had never stepped into a cage before except to train. Don't hate on them because they had more talent!
Lol

Ashland, KY

#26 Oct 15, 2012
And no, Jarvis's fight wasn't all that great honestly. Jarvis ( who was 5-6 ) wasn't supposed to win against one of Spensers better ammys ( 14-1 ). Jarvis's opponent underestimated him and that was obvious for anyone to see. Again this isn't about the fighters, it's about the promotion. Every fighter has to start somewhere. And Jarvis needs to either stop fighting or start training again. At one point he was 5-2. Then he started thinking he was better than he is and started taking impossible match ups. Jarvis has came a long way from his first fight ( weighing 220 lbs ) but he let his head get blown up and started taking fights he wasn't ready for. Keep assuming you know everything. Believe it or not, the sport has been around in this area a lot longer than before you even knew what MMA was. Tri-State MMA was the first promotion to bring MMA to this area back in 04-05. They had ammy fighters that went on to fight in King of the cage, Hook n Shoot and the UFC. But since you know so much about this sport and I don't know anything I'm sure you already knew that. Have you ever heard of Jimbo Collins? Jimmy Mc? The trotter brothers? Kenny Diamond? They were the 4 original promotors in Ky. Jimmy Mc owns KyFC. They used to be the best in the state but are now considered one of the worst. Jumbo Collins used to own Warrior FC and put on some of the best fight cards in Ky. He's no longer in MMA ( long story ). The Trotters ( Eddie and Anthony ) were both fighters and promotors. Anthony is now a state trooper. And btw, Les the ref for fall brawl is also a former fighter and retired KSP and used to fight for the Trotter brothers' promotion Gladiator FC ). Kenny Diamond owned Tri-State MMA and also ran a MMA gym under the same name. He was the first promotor in this area to bring MMA to the tri-state. He was hired by Spartan FC as a matchmaker and also is the play by play commentator for Spartans PPV fights. He's also a referee in Ky. All of this was long before TUF. But again you know more about this sport than me, right? Fall Brawl was thrown together and it showed. The worst events at Hardrock, Absolute Action or Spartan were put together 10x better than this event. If you take a bad fighter with training and put them in there with someone with little to no training even the bad fighter will look good. That's not what this sport is supposed to be about. It's about matching ammy fighters up evenly and helping them learn and grow until they are ready to move on to the pro level. And even then you help build their pro career to move on to the next level. Fall Brawl wasn't about that. And if you think it was then you're more ignorant about MMA than I first thought.
yup wrote:
Jarvis lost to Nache, but I guess that fight didn't spark your interest either. You just want to talk crap about people who have the courage to try and do something that they've wanted to do their whole lives. I sincerely doubt that you have ever been involved with anything because if you had been, then you would show more respect for the fighters, promoters, sponsors, refs, judges, etc rather than run your mouth about them. It's really easy to sit on your fat a** and run your mouth, why don't you try doing something instead of living in a fantasy world that you have created for yourself? I think the guys all did great! Team Evolution showcased their talent, and if they were undermatched, it wasn't because that's what they wanted. The other fighters all cage experience, and I know a few of team Evolution had never stepped into a cage before except to train. Don't hate on them because they had more talent!
Not

Ashland, KY

#27 Oct 15, 2012
The guy Yates fought was a fat overweight, out of shape soup can. Put Yates in there with someone with real training and see how much the steroids help him. He would get destroyed. I hope he signs up and gets chosen for one of the next Spartan events. Once he runs into someone who trains seriously he will be humiliated.
wonderkid wrote:
exactly! not the UFC its a regional promotion. Wiler was one of two 15 year olds who fought a kickboxing exhibition and yes he is good. The Hicks kid he fought had about a week of kickboxing and stepped in the cage with him...big props for doing that! The man Yates fought I beleive was from Illinois and looked to be in his 30's. The main event between Eric Jarvis and Anthony Nache was a classic...could have been an undercard fight for the UFC easy! Don't knock it ...Support it!
Not

Ashland, KY

#28 Oct 15, 2012
And you are getting way to excited lol. A UFC undercard? Lmao. Please. I have to agree with the " LOL " person, these fights were terrible compared to Spartan or some of the others. And lol at you for giving someone " props " for fighting with just a weeks training. Lol. That's not brave, that's stupid.
wonderkid wrote:
exactly! not the UFC its a regional promotion. Wiler was one of two 15 year olds who fought a kickboxing exhibition and yes he is good. The Hicks kid he fought had about a week of kickboxing and stepped in the cage with him...big props for doing that! The man Yates fought I beleive was from Illinois and looked to be in his 30's. The main event between Eric Jarvis and Anthony Nache was a classic...could have been an undercard fight for the UFC easy! Don't knock it ...Support it!
Listening

Flatwoods, KY

#29 Oct 15, 2012
Was there any paramedics, emts or Doctors present in case someone was seriously injured? I sure hope so.
Nice guy

Ardsley, NY

#30 Oct 15, 2012
Sounds to me like alot of guys don't like Yates. Why aren't you fighting????atleast he is trying.that was his first fight in the cage. Give him some credit.sounds like a personal problem you have with him.
Lol ur dumb

United States

#31 Oct 15, 2012
For one everyone on EC had a Fighting back ground and how can u say anyone was overmatched it was the Dubtue of most of the Cage Fighters don't be mad because something is going to be bigg and just because that dude didn't train Long that up to his coach and that how u get Experince I thought it was a great show and they always put on a great show I am a veterian and they always say the pledge allegiance well I will always be a fan of there BOXING AND MMA
Lol

Ashland, KY

#32 Oct 15, 2012
That's a requirement by the KBWA. All MMA events must have those. They are also supposed to notify the nearest neurosurgeon that is on duty of the event as well. Also just recently started by the KBWA all ammys must have blood work done. They can also do random drug testing at the event before or after any bout. I just wish they included steroids in their drug screen. It's becoming a bigger and bigger problem.
Listening wrote:
Was there any paramedics, emts or Doctors present in case someone was seriously injured? I sure hope so.
Lol

Ashland, KY

#33 Oct 15, 2012
First, after typing all of that you are calling someone else stupid? Second. No that is not just up to his coach. It's the responsibility of the matchmaker/promotor to make sure that ever bout is evenly matched. That isn't how you get experience, that's how kids get hurt. This isn't old school ammy boxing. A years difference in training in that sport is A LOT different than a years difference in boxing. Third, just having a " fighting background " means nothing. It's that type of mentality that gets people hurt. The amount and styles of training along with the number and quality of opponents should be as equal as possible in order to make it as safe as possible. These guys are ammys. Not pro's. They need to be matched as evenly and as fairly as possible to ensure there safety as much as possible. Any promotor or matchmaker that doesn't look after the fighters safety above all else has no business being in this sport. Take Jarvis's fight for example. His opponent was 14-1. Jarvis was 5-6. You really think they expected Jarvis to give him that much of a fight? Not even close. Jarvis's opponent underestimated him. Jarvis has a terrible record but he's fought much tougher opponents. The guy that was 14-1 fought cream puffs. Jarvis used to be the champion for Spartan at 170 and 155. And he took it to the guy that was 14-1. What does that tell you about the mindset of the matchmaker? If you know ANYTHING about this sport, it tells you all you need to know. And lastly, I've never been to a boxing or MMA event in this area where they didn't pay their respect to the flag and the country. Spartan even had a color guard at one event. And they happened to be former Spartan fighters.
Lol ur dumb wrote:
For one everyone on EC had a Fighting back ground and how can u say anyone was overmatched it was the Dubtue of most of the Cage Fighters don't be mad because something is going to be bigg and just because that dude didn't train Long that up to his coach and that how u get Experince I thought it was a great show and they always put on a great show I am a veterian and they always say the pledge allegiance well I will always be a fan of there BOXING AND MMA
Lol

Ashland, KY

#34 Oct 15, 2012
Never met or heard of him before fri night. It's great that he's giving it a shot. But he was terribly undermatched. Does he train anywhere?
Nice guy wrote:
Sounds to me like alot of guys don't like Yates. Why aren't you fighting????atleast he is trying.that was his first fight in the cage. Give him some credit.sounds like a personal problem you have with him.
Lol ur dumb

Ironton, OH

#35 Oct 15, 2012
That's why u fight tough guys in the amutures to get ready for the Pro it's all about learning so I can u be overmatched as a amuture nether of them had Fights do ur research
Jarvis

Grafton, OH

#36 Oct 15, 2012
I would bet $100 I think which one of these posters is from Svt lol
Nice guy

United States

#37 Oct 15, 2012
Yes he does train. He hasn't been in it a long time but he is learning. He is a good guy.
Jarvis

Grafton, OH

#38 Oct 15, 2012
Btw I train 3-4 hours a day, that's why I've went from terrible to someone decent. Anyone that KNOWS me knows I don't think I'm anything special. This is stupid lol. I should have stayed at Svt? That's funny because their is NO striking there except the short time Sepulveda was there and he came to my gym an helped me personally also. At least training with Bruce for Bjj and butch Hiles, Jp felty for wrestling, etc. I get people that care about my progression. Oh and I have the damn nuts to post my name on here. Any of you talking shit, have u fought? Then keep ur mouth shut. As for staying at Svt, lol, no thank u. Their r some good people there, Chris brown, lemarque, Huey, Hagerman, etc. I'll pass on the instruction. Mma is more than Bjj. I travel to train, I'm progressing quickly, I'm never going to be the lw champ but I'm about to turn pro and I'm fine with that. I don't really care for any "expert" opinions in here.
Jarvis

Grafton, OH

#39 Oct 15, 2012
And impossible matchups? I took a hard fight in Michael seals, then I was beating tindall till I got caught and the ref jumped in a bit early, then three decisions. All to legit guys. Maybe I should be padding my record and not learning anything like some
Fighters out there! Lol at least when I go pro ill know the caliber of fighters I'm looking at.

Quit fighting or start training again lol, I'm at the gym RIGHT NOW lol. Shows how much you really know.
Jarvis

Grafton, OH

#40 Oct 15, 2012
And out of
Those promotions u named, I've fought their champs and lost decisions, trained with, and talk to them daily. U may be speaking of the rest of the card, but i know where I stand in the state and I've had recent convos about it with Todd Neal.

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