Bible study rules for public schools proposed

[Mike Duquette]

defender wrote:

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That Is common knowledge Dip ship... Science 101... Good grief... Do you want proof it rained today too?

So you cannot produce any evidence? I see.

If it is so common, as you claim, it should be very easy for you to produce.

Produce or shut up.

[Mike Duquette]

defender wrote:

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No one knows how old the earth is... Must we go though this again... I believe it's much older than 4.5 billion years old...

And what leads you to believe this?

[Yes and Amen]

Yiago wrote:

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All lines of evidence converge on 4.5 billion years. This is from geological strata, carbon dating, and evidences from other worlds.

Hahahahahaha!
Suppose you tell us... just how does a tree GROW through that many layers, and now tell us how another tree grew upside down???
You cannot do carbon dating on rocks...
You Geological information is WRONG, and you do not even know it!
Buy a clue...
Big Flood = messed up data...
Messed up data = messed up evilution...
Messed up evilution followers = faith!

[ChromiuMan]

Yes and Amen wrote:

<quoted text>The "gaping chasm" is between yer ears!
You'll see in just a few short years...
God is real, and He proved it to me!
Now... IF you Want to know God's real
Too bad for you!
...
http://www.youtube.com/watch ...
....
http://www.bing.com/videos/search ...
...
Only our God can do what sinful man says He can't!

In a few short years we'll see that the Republicans who said "there is no global warming" were lying through their teeth to protect their short term economic interests. Thanks a lot.

[Yes and Amen]

Satanic Priest wrote:

I have an honest question. All of the hate I see from the christians against Muslims and other religions, gay people, black people, how can you say the word "love"?

No!
That is NOT an Honest Question!
We Love all people, even you!
We tell you the truth IN Love, and you may not like being called a "Tard" (Ignorant on Purpose) I'm just hoping you'll wake up, n see You are being a tard, open your eyes, and stop telling lies!
I'm not perfect, BUT I do know God is real, and that is my Love for you... He is Real!
Now.... go ahead n spew your hatred, and tomorrow...
I'll be back here telling you the same thing!
John
3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only-begotten
Son, that whoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have
everlasting life.
3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the
world, but that the world through him may be saved.
3:18 He that believeth on him, is not condemned: but he that
believeth not, is condemned already, because he hath not
believed in the name of the only-begotten Son of God.
3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the
world, and men have loved darkness rather than light, because
their deeds were evil.
Good day!

[Yes and Amen]

[QUOTE who="simple. "]<quoted text>
well it's simply not unbelievable to Christians, and I don't think it's funny. God does amazing, wonderful, indescribable, simple, big, small things for me daily. I would hate to have no hope for the future and never experience this unexplainable love, peace and joy that I feel, Even in hard times. I have a relationship with Jesus, He is real. There will be an eternity spent somewhere, I choose Heaven. What could be worse I lived a life of fantasy and was Blessed in ways you can't explain... Ok...then I choose that..
:-)
Is your heart that hardened that you won't even allow Him to show you He's real? What could it hurt? Be open..take it as a challenge if you will..[/QUOTE]Amen, and God Bless!

[ChromiuMan]

Yes and Amen wrote:

<quoted text>Hahahahahaha!
Suppose you tell us... just how does a tree GROW through that many layers, and now tell us how another tree grew upside down???
You cannot do carbon dating on rocks...
You Geological information is WRONG, and you do not even know it!
Buy a clue...
Big Flood = messed up data...
Messed up data = messed up evilution...
Messed up evilution followers = faith!

Big Flood = messed up mythology.
messed up mythology = messed up beliefs
messed up believers = faith

[ChromiuMan]

Yes and Amen wrote:

<quoted text>No!
That is NOT an Honest Question!
We Love all people, even you!
We tell you the truth IN Love, and you may not like being called a "Tard" (Ignorant on Purpose) I'm just hoping you'll wake up, n see You are being a tard, open your eyes, and stop telling lies!
I'm not perfect, BUT I do know God is real, and that is my Love for you... He is Real!
Now.... go ahead n spew your hatred, and tomorrow...
I'll be back here telling you the same thing!
John
3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only-begotten
Son, that whoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have
everlasting life.
3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the
world, but that the world through him may be saved.
3:18 He that believeth on him, is not condemned: but he that
believeth not, is condemned already, because he hath not
believed in the name of the only-begotten Son of God.
3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the
world, and men have loved darkness rather than light, because
their deeds were evil.
Good day!

I, too have an honest question:
All of the hate I see from the christians against Muslims and other religions, gay people, black people, how can you say the word "love"?

[Yes and Amen]

ChromiuMan wrote:

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Yes, and the House of Representatives.
The conservative vs. liberal media is evil. It divides the nation by exhorting exaggerations and fringe beliefs as being mainstream ideologies. Every 2 bit hack with an internet connection can post a blog, and most that are regarded as indisputable truthseekers are nothing but discriminate hatemongers.

The Liberal media is the problem!
They couldn't tell the truth, even when they've been found liars, they will not confess it, and change!
Such is the Osamma ad on Mitts dealings with Bain... ended in 1999, and they run an ad saying his dealings killed a woman with cancer in 06... Major BS, and lies to cover up what they knew have been uncovered!
I Believe EVERYONE in office should be ABOVE all the lies, and cheating should be fired on the SPOT! Republican, Democrat, or whatever!
We used to HOLD ourselves to Higher standards, and this putting up with BS in office, is exactly what our problem is in the USA!

[Yes and Amen]

Mike Duquette wrote:

<quoted text>Crack, meth, what is the difference? They are both extremely damaging to the brain.
You like science like fox news is far and balanced.

Like you being a Tard!
What's the difference???
And yet I'm more clear in my thinking than you are!
God is real!
Get used to it!

[Mike Duquette]

Yes and Amen wrote:

<quoted text>Hahahahahaha!
Suppose you tell us... just how does a tree GROW through that many layers, and now tell us how another tree grew upside down???
You cannot do carbon dating on rocks...
You Geological information is WRONG, and you do not even know it!
Buy a clue...
Big Flood = messed up data...
Messed up data = messed up evilution...
Messed up evilution followers = faith!

Radiometric dating. I thought you liked science?

[Yes and Amen]

Mike Duquette wrote:

<quoted text>You are above being mean like fox news is fair and balanced.

I know why you guys don't like Fox... they show Liars of each side, and there is just more on yours!
I bet you'd like them IF they didn't tell the TRUTH... you seem to like Lies!

[hmmm]

Yes and Amen wrote:

<quoted text>I know why you guys don't like Fox... they show Liars of each side, and there is just more on yours!
I bet you'd like them IF they didn't tell the TRUTH... you seem to like Lies!

then you should find this site very interesting..

http://foxnewslies.net/...

[ChromiuMan]

Yes and Amen wrote:

<quoted text>The Liberal media is the problem!
They couldn't tell the truth, even when they've been found liars, they will not confess it, and change!
Such is the Osamma ad on Mitts dealings with Bain... ended in 1999, and they run an ad saying his dealings killed a woman with cancer in 06... Major BS, and lies to cover up what they knew have been uncovered!
I Believe EVERYONE in office should be ABOVE all the lies, and cheating should be fired on the SPOT! Republican, Democrat, or whatever!
We used to HOLD ourselves to Higher standards, and this putting up with BS in office, is exactly what our problem is in the USA!

What planet are you from? Our politics and news publishers have always been filled with cheats, liars and bullies. You are so deranged with partisanship you can't even make a post using Obama's name, and them address Romney as "Mitt" as though you were experiencing a subconscious cuddle. You're OCD buffoonery regarding the Bible is bad enough - leave your half-witted political cheerleading in the drain where it belongs.

[defender]

Yiago wrote:

<quoted text>Well, I can respect a person who has an honest disagreement with a claim. I do not respect self-delusion or outright dishonesty, which is what you get from Creationist literature.

Look, science is based on nature. It seeks to understand nature. It looks at facts and tries to tell the story that best fits all the observed facts. Facts that fit the story are evidence in support of it. Facts that do not fit the story are evidence against it.

For evolution, the story of life on Earth, the facts overwhelmingly fit the story. Facts that weren't even dreamed of in Darwin's time fit the story of evolution like a glove (genetics).

It is not complete, it is not perfect. It can be proven false. People are constantly working to test it. Like all good theories, the longer it withstands the tests the more confidence people have in it.

At this point scant few scientists doubt it is true. Fewer still who actually work in biology. Most of the opposition comes from certain types of Fundamentalists who reject it because it leaves no room for Special Creation. Scientists who reject it are overwhelmingly doctors, engineers, and other professionals who are not actually trained in biology and who don't actually do "science".

I understand the intuition to think that things are designed. It is hard to imagine cells and eyes forming by nature alone. But that is what the evidence points to. It does not point to a designer. And if a designer does exist we certainly have no idea what it could be since not even the slightest trace of it can be found.

It takes pure, blind faith to believe that life was created by an intelligent being. For evolution, the natural story of life, no such faith is required to grant it provisional trust.

I don't have a problem with ToE... My problem is with the religion of it... I don't believe the evidence shows that life could have just sprung up... Much less survived... Far to many questions.. And not just little questions... Life requirers other life to survive... The Bee needs the flower as also the flower needs the bee... So not only does ToE state life evolved from simple single cells it also states that they split into different life forms for mutual benefit... Yet nowhere ever has mutation or selection been shown to change a cell into a completely different one... Never... These are really big problems for the theory... But this fact is swept under the rug as nothing... Well not me... And many others are starting to jump ship as well... Life is far to complex to ignore...

[defender]

Mike Duquette wrote:

<quoted text>Tiktaalik provide insights on the features of the extinct closest relatives of the tetrapods. Unlike many previous, more fishlike transitional fossils, the "fins" of Tiktaalik have basic wrist bones and simple rays reminiscent of fingers. The homology of distal elements is uncertain, but the proximal series can be directly compared to the ulnare and intermedium of tetrapods. The fin was clearly weight bearing, being attached to a massive shoulder with expanded scapular and coracoid elements and attached to the body armor, large muscular scars on the ventral surface of the humerus, and highly mobile distal joints. The bones of the fore fins show large muscle facets, suggesting that the fin was both muscular and had the ability to flex like a wrist joint. These wrist-like features would have helped anchor the creature to the bottom in fast moving current.[4][10]

Restoration
Also notable are the spiracles on the top of the head, which suggest the creature had primitive lungs as well as gills. This would have been useful in shallow water, where higher water temperature would lower oxygen content. This development may have led to the evolution of a more robust ribcage, a key evolutionary trait of land living creatures.[2] The more robust ribcage of Tiktaalik would have helped support the animal’s body any time it ventured outside a fully aquatic habitat. Tiktaalik also lacked a characteristic that most fishes have—bony plates in the gill area that restrict lateral head movement. This makes Tiktaalik the earliest known fish to have a neck, with the pectoral girdle separate from the skull. This would give the creature more freedom in hunting prey either on land or in the shallows.[10]

In Late Devonian vertebrate speciation, descendants of pelagic lobe-finned fish – like Eusthenopteron – exhibited a sequence of adaptations:
Panderichthys, suited to muddy shallows;
Tiktaalik with limb-like fins that could take it onto land;
Early tetrapods in weed-filled swamps, such as:
Acanthostega which had feet with eight digits,
Ichthyostega with limbs.
Descendants also included pelagic lobe-finned fish such as coelacanth species.
Tiktaalik is a transitional fossil; it is to tetrapods what Anchiornis is to birds, troodonts and dromaeosaurids. While it may be that neither is ancestor to any living animal, they serve as evidence that intermediates between very different types of vertebrates did once exist. The mixture of both "fish" and tetrapod characteristics found in Tiktaalik include these traits:
Fish
fish gills
fish scales
fish fins
"Fishapod"
half-fish, half-tetrapod limb bones and joints, including a functional wrist joint and radiating, fish-like fins instead of toes
half-fish, half-tetrapod ear region
Tetrapod
tetrapod rib bones
tetrapod mobile neck with separate pectoral girdle
tetrapod lungs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiktaalik

Once again... The bones were not attached to the skeleton... And were used for stability while mating... This has long been discarded... Cut and paste all the propaganda you wish the Tiktaalik was just a fish... Lol

[Yes and Amen]

well wrote:

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I wouldnt think you would have a problem with socialism. you know, Jesus' teachings and all.
Matthew19: 16 –21 16 And,behold,one came and said unto him, Good Master,what good thing shall I do,that I may have eternal life? 17 And he said unto him…if thou wilt enter into life,keep the commandments. 18 He saith unto him,Which?Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder,Thou shalt not commit adultery,Thou shalt not steal,Thou shalt not bear false witness. 19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love they neighbour as thyself. 20 The young man saith unto him,All of these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? 21 Jesus said unto him,If thou wilt be perfect,go and sell that thou hast,and give to the poor,and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come follow me.
Luke 6:35-38 35 But love ye your enemies,and do good, and lend,hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great,and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil. 36 Be ye therefore merciful,as your Father also is merciful. 37 Judge not,and ye shall not be judged: condemn not,and ye shall not be condemned: forgive,and ye shall be forgiven: 38 Give,and it shall be given unto you; good measure,pressed down,and shaken together, and running over,shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure
,and ye clothed me: I was sick,and ye visited me: I was in prison,and ye came unto me. 37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying,Lord,when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee?or thirsty,and gave thee drink? 38 When saw we thee a stranger,and took thee in?or naked,and clothed thee? 39 Or when saw we thee sick,or in prison, and came unto thee? 40 And the King shall answer and say unto them,Verily I say unto you,Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren,ye have done it unto me.

And you think I don't give?
We GIVE because we WANT to...
NOT because someone steals it from us!
How much do you give???
I'll tell you this, I have probably <$60 in my account, and I will mostlikely give half of that away in a couple of days!
I give many places, as the Lord has Blessed me!
You've heared of God's pantry, and Salvation Army?
Those are just two of my favorites!
Socialism is NOT Biblical!
Let the work of YOUR hands praise you in the gates,
Or the work of Your hands Prosper... You cannot prosper doing bad work, and Mediocrity is the flower of socialism!
As in "Why should I work hard, or do better than the next guy... we all get the same!"

[Yes and Amen]

well wrote:

Although I know you really struggle with "judge not" and "condem not". So apparently you're just picking and choosing scripture. Typical

Hahahaha!
Read the rest of those!
And you might want to read the one about...
God not wanting sacrifice, but Justice, Judgement, and Mercy!
He sent a Savior, SO... "Justice, Judgement, and Mercy" could be done!

[Evolution]

I dont like how people force religion on others... Kids no less. They should be able to choose what they believe in

[Yes and Amen]

ChromiuMan wrote:

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In a few short years we'll see that the Republicans who said "there is no global warming" were lying through their teeth to protect their short term economic interests. Thanks a lot.

Who said we said there is no global warming?
You wanna guess how much the world warmed up LONG
before man got into the industrial age???
THINK about it!
We haven't put a dent in it!
ALL we did is LOOSE MORE JOBS!
Hey, but that's ok!
You can GIVE them MY Money!
NOT!