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just the facts

Lancaster, OH

#1 Jan 11, 2018
I seen half of a story on the news Tuesday night that a Trump hotel/motel in Florida was packed with pregnant female Russians. Coming here to have their children, staying several months till child birth, so their children can be born Americans, and after so many years they can apply for their parents to become citizens, bypassing current laws. This has been going on for years, and Trump is completely in the know. They are spending at a minimum of 100 thousand dollars for the Trump hotel/motel stay. Do either of you know about this?
Bannon

United States

#2 Jan 11, 2018
just the facts wrote:
I seen half of a story on the news Tuesday night that a Trump hotel/motel in Florida was packed with pregnant female Russians. Coming here to have their children, staying several months till child birth, so their children can be born Americans, and after so many years they can apply for their parents to become citizens, bypassing current laws. This has been going on for years, and Trump is completely in the know. They are spending at a minimum of 100 thousand dollars for the Trump hotel/motel stay. Do either of you know about this?
Itís been going on for years. It doesnít bypass any laws, the citizenship clause of the 14th amendment says anyone born on US soil is a US citizen. They arenít exclusive to Trump properties, but they are used a lot and yes, Trump is fully aware. These are typically children with some connections to wealthy Russians, they spend large amounts of money, as you point out to secure dual citizenship, which allows the children open, legal, access to the US later in life. After all, they are citizens. Trump doesnít have any issue with it because they are white, Europeans. Trump just doesnít want anyone here from Ďshitholeí countries like Haiti and African countries, you know, where the people are black.
my2cents

Ashland, KY

#3 Jan 11, 2018
Bannon wrote:
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Itís been going on for years. It doesnít bypass any laws, the citizenship clause of the 14th amendment says anyone born on US soil is a US citizen. They arenít exclusive to Trump properties, but they are used a lot and yes, Trump is fully aware. These are typically children with some connections to wealthy Russians, they spend large amounts of money, as you point out to secure dual citizenship, which allows the children open, legal, access to the US later in life. After all, they are citizens. Trump doesnít have any issue with it because they are white, Europeans. Trump just doesnít want anyone here from Ďshitholeí countries like Haiti and African countries, you know, where the people are black.
Thats right........we don't need any more barbarians coming to America to live off public assistance and spread their filth and violence. Politically correct I am not. Your implicationthat Trump is racist is wrong. Put it to bed, it's old and no one believes it.
just the facts

Lancaster, OH

#4 Jan 11, 2018
my2cents wrote:
<quoted text>Thats right........we don't need any more barbarians coming to America to live off public assistance and spread their filth and violence. Politically correct I am not. Your implicationthat Trump is racist is wrong. Put it to bed, it's old and no one believes it.
Did you bother to watch the news or read a newspaper today or any day dumbass???
my2cents

Ashland, KY

#5 Jan 11, 2018
just the facts wrote:
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Did you bother to watch the news or read a newspaper today or any day dumbass???
no I didn't. I don't consult network or establishment media. But lets gets something straight. I have no problem with immigrats who can contribute, but I don't want the dregs coming here with their entitlement mentality and their barbaric religions. Haitians aren't muslim, no, but the people of Miami are having to deal with tortured animals left in public places from voodoo rituals. Would you like to have to walk around entrails on a sidewalk? Perhaps you would rather enudre the stench of drained, rotten chicken blood blowing across your way? You may even like paying for the section 8 housing for these people for life, but I(and most Americans)don't! Don't even get me started on the islamic issue. If Haiti wants to send us educated people that can contribute, I'm fine with that, but I don't want their problems here. Have you seen what a nice,modern housing complex looks like 1 year after these people move in??? It doesn't sound like it, maybe you should visit Dade County, Florida. Then you can post. You have a minority opinion on this, most people want the country to be selective about who we let in. Just for entertainment, what did the press have to say that impressed you so much?
Bannon

United States

#6 Jan 11, 2018
my2cents wrote:
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Thats right........we don't need any more barbarians coming to America to live off public assistance and spread their filth and violence. Politically correct I am not. Your implicationthat Trump is racist is wrong. Put it to bed, it's old and no one believes it.
No, only old white men and young white racist donít believe it. Want to know who does believe it? Every black voter, every Hispanic voter, every middle eastern voter and every Asian voter. Trump just lost the Republicans the House and the Senate this year and the White House in 2020 and may have effectively ended the Republican Partyójust not that many old, white, men left. A lot of us: white, yellow, brown and black, came from those shithole countries. Trump showed himself as an elitist at the very least and to most, as a white supremacist.
real people

United States

#7 Jan 12, 2018
well bannon educate the white people on how to live really really well off hard working taxpayers !if these minorities wanted to assimilate and be american that would be different most dont .a lot don't think they should pay their way !but I have a solution....I don't want to give an inch of America to people who want to destroy and drag down America !the solution is...for every do gooder who want these kind of people and illegals give up your citizenship to them ,,go to their country and bring it up to American standards !remember what haitti,s religion is...witch craft and voodoo and they wallow in poverty and wonder why !!!!as for good people who want to be decent and keep up standards a lot are aready here and appreciate America they are the ones that came in legally ,honestly and for the right reasons and we productive ,decent citizens say....welcome !!!!
real people

United States

#8 Jan 12, 2018
oh I forgot tto ask faux bannon are you still bannon after the real bannon returned to the trump train ?????
CyDigi

United States

#9 Jan 12, 2018
It all makes sense now.

Bannon's a racist black gay guy in a dress that doesn't want to work and doesn't want to be worth anything to anyone but himself.

It explains why he talks all the classic lying points of the libtard army, goes berserk about people not believing in trannies, and is on here all the time (no job). It's why he can't stand when "give me free stuff" programs get threatened, and why he doesn't want wealthy new Americans, just dirt poor pieces of crap from typically black countries. He HATES white people so much that even if new rich white people were to directly benefit him, he doesn't want it in favor of black criminals.

It's the only thing that fits. Bannon's a gay black man in a dress, and he's racist about it.
Lmao

Ironton, OH

#10 Jan 12, 2018
Bannon wrote:
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No, only old white men and young white racist donít believe it. Want to know who does believe it? Every black voter, every Hispanic voter, every middle eastern voter and every Asian voter. Trump just lost the Republicans the House and the Senate this year and the White House in 2020 and may have effectively ended the Republican Partyójust not that many old, white, men left. A lot of us: white, yellow, brown and black, came from those shithole countries. Trump showed himself as an elitist at the very least and to most, as a white supremacist.
I still don't think he is racist and I'm a black women. So maybe you need to do more research before you say every.
Babble

Richmond, KY

#11 Jan 12, 2018
Lmao wrote:
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I still don't think he is racist and I'm a black women. So maybe you need to do more research before you say every.
That was a well said,intelligent comment that also used correct grammar....
Bannon

United States

#12 Jan 12, 2018
Lmao wrote:
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I still don't think he is racist and I'm a black women. So maybe you need to do more research before you say every.
You are certainly a hold out then. You can say the man isnít a racist, but as I said, nearly all other minorities in this country disagree with you. Itís his image problem and Iím not seeing the president or anyone else on his underlings doing or saying anything thatís changing that fact. You have idiots on here saying the entire continent of Africa is a shithole and all one billion + people who live there are barbarians. Those might be the people you want to talk to if you hope to correct Trumpís image as a racist, because they arenít helping.
my2cents

Ashland, KY

#13 Jan 12, 2018
Bannon wrote:
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No, only old white men and young white racist donít believe it. Want to know who does believe it? Every black voter, every Hispanic voter, every middle eastern voter and every Asian voter. Trump just lost the Republicans the House and the Senate this year and the White House in 2020 and may have effectively ended the Republican Partyójust not that many old, white, men left. A lot of us: white, yellow, brown and black, came from those shithole countries. Trump showed himself as an elitist at the very least and to most, as a white supremacist.
Well, you just said what I would expect you to say. When facts are against you, always fall back on the race card. Are you saying that everyone who feels this way is racist? Well, by that definition there are a lot of minorities who are racist because they don't want them here either. Are you saying the majority of these people do not live off public assistance for life? Are you saying most of these people contribute to society? Are you saying they don't regard their own countries negatively? Then why do you think they are coming here? There is enough voter fraud in this country to flip both houses in all likelihood. Just because I want to preserve my country does not make me a racist. That old tired moniker is wearing a bit thin, don't you think? By the way, I am sorry about your cats being euthanized.
my2cents

Ashland, KY

#14 Jan 12, 2018
Bannon wrote:
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You are certainly a hold out then. You can say the man isnít a racist, but as I said, nearly all other minorities in this country disagree with you. Itís his image problem and Iím not seeing the president or anyone else on his underlings doing or saying anything thatís changing that fact. You have idiots on here saying the entire continent of Africa is a shithole and all one billion + people who live there are barbarians. Those might be the people you want to talk to if you hope to correct Trumpís image as a racist, because they arenít helping.
Bannon, what she is saying is that she doesn't want her country trashed by third world migration. I did not say that all of Africa is a dump, neither did Trump. What he said is the US is not getting the caliber of people that can contribute to society, That was the underlying meaning, sorry you missed that. Yes I called the savages that have infested Europe barbarians. That is what they are. I am sorry you also missed that! Then again, sometimes common sense isn't so common is it?
real people

United States

#15 Jan 12, 2018
even Africa doesn't want what they want to send here !that's a good clue !don't you see the camps are not in Africa ??so side with the African countries that don't want their own people and we should listen ??how dense are people that they don't see the obious ???but heres the solution...send a white person thhaat live off our hard earned mney in exchange for a poor black African !any volunteers !remember those screaming loudest don't live amonst their poor black ,Hispanic muslim races they live and breath their own air but have to have them voting to keep them in their own little kingdoms !!!!
Bannon

United States

#16 Jan 12, 2018
my2cents wrote:
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Bannon, what she is saying is that she doesn't want her country trashed by third world migration. I did not say that all of Africa is a dump, neither did Trump. What he said is the US is not getting the caliber of people that can contribute to society, That was the underlying meaning, sorry you missed that. Yes I called the savages that have infested Europe barbarians. That is what they are. I am sorry you also missed that! Then again, sometimes common sense isn't so common is it?
Trump said why are we getting immigrants from shithole countries. Spin that however you want, we all know. But that aside, what caliber of people do you want? You seem to be confused on the facts. According to a Pew Research report, the immigrants from the Caribbean and from African nations, profiles, foreign-born blacks have a median age of 42, higher than the typical criminal age range of 16-25. Twenty-six percent have a college education, and black immigrants are less likely to live in poverty (20 percent vs. 28 percent) than native blacks. They have higher incomes and about 48 percent of black immigrants who are 18 or older are also married. Are you saying older, married, higher educated, higher wage earns are not the type of immigrants you want?

By comparison, European immigrants tend to be older, 54, with only 17 percent having a college degree. Because of their age they tend to less likely to enter the workforce or assimilate. Many have been displaced because of geopolitical changes are have a higher level of government assistance for longer periods.

Now tell me again why we donít want immigrants from shithole countries?
Bannon

United States

#17 Jan 12, 2018
CyDigi wrote:
It all makes sense now.

Bannon's a racist black gay guy in a dress that doesn't want to work and doesn't want to be worth anything to anyone but himself.

It explains why he talks all the classic lying points of the libtard army, goes berserk about people not believing in trannies, and is on here all the time (no job). It's why he can't stand when "give me free stuff" programs get threatened, and why he doesn't want wealthy new Americans, just dirt poor pieces of crap from typically black countries. He HATES white people so much that even if new rich white people were to directly benefit him, he doesn't want it in favor of black criminals.

It's the only thing that fits. Bannon's a gay black man in a dress, and he's racist about it.
The way you follow me around and attack me without any substance is sad. I must really get under your thin skin for you to melt down like a snowflake in July at everyone of my post. Iím sorry your life is so void of meaning. Go with God.
Lmao

Ironton, OH

#18 Jan 12, 2018
Bannon wrote:
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You are certainly a hold out then. You can say the man isnít a racist, but as I said, nearly all other minorities in this country disagree with you. Itís his image problem and Iím not seeing the president or anyone else on his underlings doing or saying anything thatís changing that fact. You have idiots on here saying the entire continent of Africa is a shithole and all one billion + people who live there are barbarians. Those might be the people you want to talk to if you hope to correct Trumpís image as a racist, because they arenít helping.
I will agree with you that most of Africa has great people and is a beautiful country. But to say what he said was racist is to believe only blacks live in Africa which is wrong. I wish he didn't use the term sh!thole but a lot of the one's migrating here are from the bad parts. I don't blame them to want a better life but they should treat their opportunity they get to come here with true respect for the country but most do not.
Bannon

United States

#19 Jan 12, 2018
Lmao wrote:
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I will agree with you that most of Africa has great people and is a beautiful country. But to say what he said was racist is to believe only blacks live in Africa which is wrong. I wish he didn't use the term sh!thole but a lot of the one's migrating here are from the bad parts. I don't blame them to want a better life but they should treat their opportunity they get to come here with true respect for the country but most do not.
Africa is a continent not a country. It is made up of 54 countries and more than 1.2 billion people, of all races. Just because it isnít exclusively black does not disqualify Trumpís statements as racist and itís nonsense and dangerous to suggest that is the standard.

Letís take this away from politics for a moment. If a CEO of a company said we donít need to hire more people from shithole neighborhoods, and named predominately black neighborhoods as such, then said, we need to hire more people from good neighborhoods, and named predominately white neighborhoods, no one would question or deny the CEOís racial intent. How is that different?

Trump didnít say we only need to allow qualified immigrants from shithole countries, he said we donít need ANYMORE, qualified or not.

One does not have to hate people of another race to be a racist. All one has to do is embrace systems which discriminate according to race. What we are discussing is an immigration system. Trumpís words were directed at locations where the populations are predominately black and he said we donít need anymore of those people, we need more people from locations which are predominately white, that is clearly discriminating based on race within the immigration system. He did not mention qualified people from undesirable locations, nor did he quantify why those locations are undesirable. The facts do not support the lies that African immigrants bleed our welfare systems. Just the opposite is true. They have higher education levels than average Americans. For example, Nigerian immigrants make up less than one percent of the US population yet make up 24 percent of black students enrolled in Harvard. How is that possible if all they do is come over here to milk the welfare system? This is an excellent example of why facts matter and how lies from the alt-right have contaminated the conversation.

One final point. Though you may not believe the Presidents comments were racist, racist do. David Duke, Richard Spenser and countless other self-professed racist have come out saying Trumoís words are encouraging and they are glad Trump is showing support and is on their side with them on matters of race and immigration. The side of white supremacy.
my2cents

Ashland, KY

#21 Jan 12, 2018
Bannon wrote:
<quoted text>

Trump said why are we getting immigrants from shithole countries. Spin that however you want, we all know. But that aside, what caliber of people do you want? You seem to be confused on the facts. According to a Pew Research report, the immigrants from the Caribbean and from African nations, profiles, foreign-born blacks have a median age of 42, higher than the typical criminal age range of 16-25. Twenty-six percent have a college education, and black immigrants are less likely to live in poverty (20 percent vs. 28 percent) than native blacks. They have higher incomes and about 48 percent of black immigrants who are 18 or older are also married. Are you saying older, married, higher educated, higher wage earns are not the type of immigrants you want?

By comparison, European immigrants tend to be older, 54, with only 17 percent having a college degree. Because of their age they tend to less likely to enter the workforce or assimilate. Many have been displaced because of geopolitical changes are have a higher level of government assistance for longer periods.

Now tell me again why we donít want immigrants from shithole countries?
Ok..........lets try this again..........he was referring to the overall migration pattern. No one is talking about developed African countries. He is referring to the loads of mainly muslims. They are not being vetted and arriving here diseased in many cases. The diseases range from rare venereal diseases to drug resistant TB. The conditions in their home countries are truly saddening. They are being given SSI disabilty and section 8 housing. They are uneducated and lack work skills and will be on the public dole for life. These people are of no benefit to us. In addition to this, some are jihadists. We probably don't know how many, but there are some. How many will be jihadists later? No one is even asking that question. If the host countries weren't sh!tholes, why would they want to come here?.........This is not being discussed on the evening news at all. Just Google what muslim migration has done to Europe. Then see if you still favor it.

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