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I think he is rude, clueless, and to small to be spotting these kids on big skills.
How does he teach something he could never do himself? And I know for fact he is nasty acting to anyone he teaches with. And he can not teach with another guy. He can not stand to have competition.
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Aug 29, 2010
 
I took classes from Tom beginning at Dave's studio in Ironton starting in 1996, I then went to Tammy Jo's when Dave closed his studio. Tom is a wonderful instructor. Yes he is a little "nasty acting" when it comes to the older girls he coaches, but I don't know of anyone he has ever made to feel uncomfortable. Tom is great at pushing people to their highest potential. As for him not being able to spot the girls, your are incorrect. He never let me, or anyone else I know of fall. I am sure you are right about him not being able to teach with another guy b/c of competition though, I can see that. I am glad to hear that Tom is still instructing.
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Tom has another guy working with him now. Since we've been there I've not noticed him being "nasty" to anyone, parent or child. He is wonderful with my daughter and has patience to work with her. He has also helped to work around my schedule, letting her come to other classes (way advanced) and working with her on her level. When she's upset he takes the time to calm her down and get her back on track. I like that we can watch the kids, but I feel like it may cause them not to reach as far as they could because "mommy"'s there. We love Tom & his staff. There are plenty other places to take you business but not every coach can do what they teach. Not every coach can take them as far. Some studios are limited by the facility and the equipment.
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I took classes from Tom beginning at Dave's studio in Ironton starting in 1996, I then went to Tammy Jo's when Dave closed his studio. Tom is a wonderful instructor. Yes he is a little "nasty acting" when it comes to the older girls he coaches, but I don't know of anyone he has ever made to feel uncomfortable. Tom is great at pushing people to their highest potential. As for him not being able to spot the girls, your are incorrect. He never let me, or anyone else I know of fall. I am sure you are right about him not being able to teach with another guy b/c of competition though, I can see that. I am glad to hear that Tom is still instructing.
Tom sucks first of all where should I really start? First off He basically has a hustle( He cant and never has been able to even do what he teaches) Yes he does drop kids and let them obtain serious injuries forced JORDAN from ashland to throw a full when she was tired and told him she couldnt and refused to even stand there was in there when it happened. She tore her ACL and could try out for college cheerleader her senior year. He is nasty acting will cancel privates if he gets mad at you. Will lie about having times and give them to others. Not pretty on the eyes by any means. And tom has never been able to teach with any other guy that he feels threatened by is the problem. Mr mcdonnie poses no threat to him cause mr mcdonnie dont mind standing in the background and letting tom take the credit for everything. He was always threated by one of GC new ast coaches Never has been able to teach around him. I do know that when tom found out that ralphie was now an ast to candy and not just their tumbling coach he called him and left him childish voicemails threatening to snap his neck in half and calling him a queer and all kinds of craziness I for one have heard the voicemails like many. And he took tom to court and sued him for harassment and judge told him cant contact him by any means for a year or tom will go to jail. I think that is hysterical lol hahahaha Stupid tom who really leaves threatening voicemails this day in time. Saying how your better than someone to them. Hes pathetic and he will never be better than ralphie. He can teach and he can do it. I personally think Ralphie would rip his sawed off midget self in half. Id love to see him do it. And the girls that work with him atleast their fulls go up as high as he stands and dont mop the floor like toms girls do. So all of you that think hes this person hes really not. You should wake up. I bet the school he works for would love to hear those voicemails and no how it would have been a felony charge if he would have been persued in the case. he is a freaking creep all around.
Seriously people. Dealing with a weirdo!
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Nov 2, 2010
 
Great instructor wrote:
Tom has another guy working with him now. Since we've been there I've not noticed him being "nasty" to anyone, parent or child. He is wonderful with my daughter and has patience to work with her. He has also helped to work around my schedule, letting her come to other classes (way advanced) and working with her on her level. When she's upset he takes the time to calm her down and get her back on track. I like that we can watch the kids, but I feel like it may cause them not to reach as far as they could because "mommy"'s there. We love Tom & his staff. There are plenty other places to take you business but not every coach can do what they teach. Not every coach can take them as far. Some studios are limited by the facility and the equipment.
Yea hes always been known for taking the lil kids and hugging on them and calming them down.
There has been talk about that for 20 years about how most parents find it really odd how he loves to hug all over the kids. I wouldnt want him doing that to mine. Correction most good teachers that have taught outside of the tristate area and other places other than this lil area their whole life can do what they teach and have actually competed in either power tumbling or allstar cheerleading highschool cheerleading themselves. I have seen that studio and Im not impressed at all. I wouldnt want my daughter tumbling and hearing a baseball hit and get scared and fall down. Or wait I guess she could work on one handspring on their ten foot tumble track lol. Seriously who buys a ten foot tumble track? People come on.
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Nov 2, 2010
 
Great instructor wrote:
Tom has another guy working with him now. Since we've been there I've not noticed him being "nasty" to anyone, parent or child. He is wonderful with my daughter and has patience to work with her. He has also helped to work around my schedule, letting her come to other classes (way advanced) and working with her on her level. When she's upset he takes the time to calm her down and get her back on track. I like that we can watch the kids, but I feel like it may cause them not to reach as far as they could because "mommy"'s there. We love Tom & his staff. There are plenty other places to take you business but not every coach can do what they teach. Not every coach can take them as far. Some studios are limited by the facility and the equipment.
The only place Tom Pack Can take a kid is to an injury eventually!!!!
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Your kid probably couldn't cut it and now you're just looking for someone to blame. I have known Tom personally for many years and he us an upstanding guy. It's appalling that you would even accuse him if acting inappropriate with any student. He is a class act and nothing but sincere.
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I have 2 girls that tumble with Tom. I have seen him hug them and give them high five. My girls love him and I personally think he is very good.
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Tom sucks first of all where should I really start? First off He basically has a hustle( He cant and never has been able to even do what he teaches) Yes he does drop kids and let them obtain serious injuries forced JORDAN from ashland to throw a full when she was tired and told him she couldnt and refused to even stand there was in there when it happened. She tore her ACL and could try out for college cheerleader her senior year. He is nasty acting will cancel privates if he gets mad at you. Will lie about having times and give them to others. Not pretty on the eyes by any means. And tom has never been able to teach with any other guy that he feels threatened by is the problem. Mr mcdonnie poses no threat to him cause mr mcdonnie dont mind standing in the background and letting tom take the credit for everything. He was always threated by one of GC new ast coaches Never has been able to teach around him. I do know that when tom found out that ralphie was now an ast to candy and not just their tumbling coach he called him and left him childish voicemails threatening to snap his neck in half and calling him a queer and all kinds of craziness I for one have heard the voicemails like many. And he took tom to court and sued him for harassment and judge told him cant contact him by any means for a year or tom will go to jail. I think that is hysterical lol hahahaha Stupid tom who really leaves threatening voicemails this day in time. Saying how your better than someone to them. Hes pathetic and he will never be better than ralphie. He can teach and he can do it. I personally think Ralphie would rip his sawed off midget self in half. Id love to see him do it. And the girls that work with him atleast their fulls go up as high as he stands and dont mop the floor like toms girls do. So all of you that think hes this person hes really not. You should wake up. I bet the school he works for would love to hear those voicemails and no how it would have been a felony charge if he would have been persued in the case. he is a freaking creep all around.
Seriously people. Dealing with a weirdo!
Let me tell you something IDIOT you have no clue what your talking about...Tom is an outstanding Instructor. he taught my daughter for 10 years until she went to college and became a co-ed cheerleader with 2 college rings and 1 TEAM USA ring with the help of Tom coaching her. BTW She is still doing it... I'm so sick of hearing about the jealousy that goes on. If your kid don't have the talent then there isn't a coach around that can help.. Ive seen it for years. As far as RALPHY PLEASE NEED I SAY MORE ABOUT HIM...When he worked at TAMMY JO'S years ago he was FIRED because he wouldn't come to work. Not one time did that happen with Tom unless a family emergency and I can't even remember that happening. You must be a disgruntle parent that does nothing but BITCH!!! been there and seen it for years. Why get on here and BITCH if you don't like him don't go to him you have a choice... Everyone has something to say about someone in any Business. everyone can't like everybody.Your post really sounds stupid.
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Nov 2, 2010
 
ralphy is gay. why would you want your children around him to begin with. Talking about a sicko. you dont know what your talking about. I would rather have a straight coach then a gay one. who cares about a voice mail email or whatever. noone cares im sure he deserved it because gay guys want to be girls and love drama and ralphy feeds off it.
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Nov 2, 2010
 
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ralphy is gay. why would you want your children around him to begin with. Talking about a sicko. you dont know what your talking about. I would rather have a straight coach then a gay one. who cares about a voice mail email or whatever. noone cares im sure he deserved it because gay guys want to be girls and love drama and ralphy feeds off it.
You dumb hlljack! If you are scared of the gays then u picked the wrong sport to get involved in you dumb f*k. Poor sheltered cheer folk out there at kc will never catch up to the rest of the cheer world.
I think its funny. Hell you all had two gay guys out there working lmao And one working with butthead now as we that took tumbling from his disgruntled ass always called him back in the day.
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customerisright wrote:
I think he is rude, clueless, and to small to be spotting these kids on big skills.
How does he teach something he could never do himself? And I know for fact he is nasty acting to anyone he teaches with. And he can not teach with another guy. He can not stand to have competition.
I have been one of Tom's students since I was nine years old. He is the greatest coach in this tri-state area. He taught me all of my big skills, ending with a double full. He has helped me become the athlete that I am in the world of cheerleading. Not to brag..Morehead State Cheerleader (3rd year)-Two National titles- Cheerleader for TEAM USA -WOrld CHampion- Thank you Tom!
Everyone is moody, I am sure you are as well customerisright. Tom is not a rude person, he is very caring. I looked up to him as if he was my second father. A coach is supposed to be hard on their students. It is called criticism, which apparently your child doesnt understand.
Not everyone is cut out to be a tumbler, tumbling is a hard skill to master and only a few really dominate in it. It boils down to the coach and Tom has had some awesome gymnast that he has coached. If you know anything about Tumbling you wouldn't be talking trash about him.
The reason he "cant" work with anyone else is because Tom doesnt like the drama. The other male coaches or if you would call one of them a male, cant work with him because Tom is a grown man who is also competitive, and like every coach they want their students to be the BEST! Don't get me wrong, I have worked with every other coach that Tom has coached with, I love them all, but they all have different coaching techniques and styles, I prefer Tom's the best.(another reason why its hard to coach with other males that have different coaching styles)-since your a tumbling parent, you should understand.
If you have any other problems, I am sure you know who I am, I am a local at KC diamond and have been every other place Tom has coached. I am always open to discuss this topic like grown adults.
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Yea hes always been known for taking the lil kids and hugging on them and calming them down.
There has been talk about that for 20 years about how most parents find it really odd how he loves to hug all over the kids. I wouldnt want him doing that to mine. Correction most good teachers that have taught outside of the tristate area and other places other than this lil area their whole life can do what they teach and have actually competed in either power tumbling or allstar cheerleading highschool cheerleading themselves. I have seen that studio and Im not impressed at all. I wouldnt want my daughter tumbling and hearing a baseball hit and get scared and fall down. Or wait I guess she could work on one handspring on their ten foot tumble track lol. Seriously who buys a ten foot tumble track? People come on.
I've been doing tumbling since I was 2 years old..So that has been 18 years, 12 of those has been with Tom. I haven't had an injury. Injuries are in any sport you do. You don't know crap about what you are talking about!
Reason why Tom hugs his students, its called POSITIVE REINFORCEMENT..I loved when Tom hugged me when I was 9, it made me feel confident in my skills and that I was doing a great job. That his is coaching Style. KC Diamond is not the best place to tumble in, no, I hate it (reason why I dont practice there) but I love Tom. Tom is trying to bring that place out of the hole that is was in, he can only do so much. And any good tumbler wont let little BASEBALL sounds get in their way. A handspring should only take up to 4 feet if that if that if the child is a toddler. You dont need a huge Spring or rod floor to tumble on if you are just learning. And a tumble track is what provokes injury, that is a worthless piece of equipment.
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Nov 3, 2010
 
And the quote for this topic:
Those who do, do. Those who can't, teach.

Take that how you want it.
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Nov 3, 2010
 
You go GIRL. You tell em how it works. Parents are drama period because there kid ain't what they want them to be. some have it some don't. I know who you are and you happen to be one of the best there is. To bad they can't learn from you.
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Oh lets get talkng bout Ms C the more than holy Morehead cheerleader. Who couldnt cheer at uk cause of tattoos piercings and shall i even get to the size thing. Tumbler she is really good. But not the best that has ever came out of the tristate. There are several girls i know of right now she couldnt hang with on tumbling alone, let alone stunting. Nor is she the first morehead cheerleader or uk cheerleader. Kelly Long was able to stay tiny enough to cheer at uk. I hope that big partner of yours didnt graduate so there is someone at morehead to put you in the air this year. I heard the guys dread doing it. I heard the guys are so small this year there going to make you lift them.
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Nov 4, 2010
 
The whole staff at KC is great. From the front desk to the instructors. They are all nice and will help u if need be. If you dont like KC go somewhere else.
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Nov 4, 2010
 
TOM, happens to be a pretty cool guy. he coached my sister and her friends and from what they say everything he teaches he can do himself and will prove it. hes always very respectful towards my sister and her friends. just because some of your fat azz daughters cant do the flip or spin they are supposed to doesnt mean its his fault. stop feeding you obese children candy bars and expecting them to be a good tumbler you idiots. atleast he gives them the time of day to try and tries to teach them..i bet its really frustrating dealing with some of you stuck up parents while he has to deal with high school and younger girls all day. this coming from a guy who does give a sh*t about tumbling. just knows of how he actually treats poeple.. and hes a nice feller
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FOrMsC wrote:
Oh lets get talkng bout Ms C the more than holy Morehead cheerleader. Who couldnt cheer at uk cause of tattoos piercings and shall i even get to the size thing. Tumbler she is really good. But not the best that has ever came out of the tristate. There are several girls i know of right now she couldnt hang with on tumbling alone, let alone stunting. Nor is she the first morehead cheerleader or uk cheerleader. Kelly Long was able to stay tiny enough to cheer at uk. I hope that big partner of yours didnt graduate so there is someone at morehead to put you in the air this year. I heard the guys dread doing it. I heard the guys are so small this year there going to make you lift them.
I dont have to explain the reasons why I didn't go to UK. I had a chance, Morehead was more of my cup of tea. Tattoos and piercings have nothing to do with cheerleading. I dont have a weight issue, and my partners do just fine with me. I can stunt, I can basket, I can mid layer, and also tumble. If you knew anything about Morehead you'd understand. And that "big partner" didnt graduate, he still cheers and no he isnt my partner, I have a new one and always get a new one every year. And we dont have small boys this year, not the biggest the head has had but we are still good and will continue to be good. As for me being the best, I know I am not the best, but I strive to be. And I think I have done a pretty darn good job at it. I have made many accomplishments and portrayed many goals and will keep doing so. You nor anyone else can beat down my pride.
If you would read the topic correctly we are talking about TOM not me. I can handle whatever you have to say about me, its been going on my whole life.
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I dont have to explain the reasons why I didn't go to UK. I had a chance, Morehead was more of my cup of tea. Tattoos and piercings have nothing to do with cheerleading. I dont have a weight issue, and my partners do just fine with me. I can stunt, I can basket, I can mid layer, and also tumble. If you knew anything about Morehead you'd understand. And that "big partner" didnt graduate, he still cheers and no he isnt my partner, I have a new one and always get a new one every year. And we dont have small boys this year, not the biggest the head has had but we are still good and will continue to be good. As for me being the best, I know I am not the best, but I strive to be. And I think I have done a pretty darn good job at it. I have made many accomplishments and portrayed many goals and will keep doing so. You nor anyone else can beat down my pride.
If you would read the topic correctly we are talking about TOM not me. I can handle whatever you have to say about me, its been going on my whole life.
youre sooo right steph. it has gone on your whole life and it will continue. simply bc you are proud, confident and talented you will be picked apart by people who cannot dream of being who you are! you are awesome and you continue to push to be better every day. you have never let the jealousy and trash talk bring you down, only fuel you. and for that, i applaud you!! howd you get to be so smart?! ;) love ya, youre still my idol! hahaa

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