Questions for Christians

Questions for Christians

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Curious

Ashland, KY

#1 Feb 7, 2013
Life is experiencing the nice things and using intelligence, knowledge, skill, and timing to make them better, for you and your friends.
Why do you undermine it by doing everything in worship of the end of life?
confused

United States

#2 Feb 7, 2013
Where did u find this definition of life ? I'm a Christian and enjoy life to its fullest. I worship and trust in God ....and prepare for the day I may go to heaven ..I ,or no Christian people I know try to undermined anyone. I am not perfect nor is any person....but a true Christian , Is forgiven.....God Bless.
Rod

Arlington, VA

#3 Feb 7, 2013
Worship of the end of life?? More like worship of the one who gives us life and all the blessings we enjoy throughout our lives. The end of life, and an eternity in Heaven is the BIG reward in the end.
Curious

Ashland, KY

#4 Feb 7, 2013
confused wrote:
Where did u find this definition of life ? I'm a Christian and enjoy life to its fullest. I worship and trust in God ....and prepare for the day I may go to heaven ..I ,or no Christian people I know try to undermined anyone. I am not perfect nor is any person....but a true Christian , Is forgiven.....God Bless.
There is no Heaven or Afterlife, just hamburger time, nobody rises from the dead, and virgins don't give birth and you know it.
I understand some little dicks want to be bigger members, so they join gyms, and organizations, and Churches to get better jobs and image, but how can you undermine not just the true beauty of defiant curiosity and defiant creativity, but the true tragedy of death, the end of an individuals inspiration initiative by worshiping death as if it's better than life?
for real

Evans City, PA

#5 Feb 7, 2013
Curious wrote:
<quoted text>There is no Heaven or Afterlife, just hamburger time, nobody rises from the dead, and virgins don't give birth and you know it.
I understand some little dicks want to be bigger members, so they join gyms, and organizations, and Churches to get better jobs and image, but how can you undermine not just the true beauty of defiant curiosity and defiant creativity, but the true tragedy of death, the end of an individuals inspiration initiative by worshiping death as if it's better than life?
your retarded no one worships death... Everyone wants to live how you live defines you not only in gods eyes but other peoples. Christians worship god what he has done and what he will do for those that choose him. And as far as afterlife that's a faith thing you will have to work out with yourself. And if there is nothing to look forward to after death what's the point of life?

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#6 Feb 7, 2013
for real wrote:
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your retarded no one worships death... Everyone wants to live how you live defines you not only in gods eyes but other peoples. Christians worship god what he has done and what he will do for those that choose him. And as far as afterlife that's a faith thing you will have to work out with yourself. And if there is nothing to look forward to after death what's the point of life?
I don't agree with the original post, but, who says there is a point? I think we make our own and believing that there is an afterlife, to me, cheapens what we have. I've asked christians "what about kids starving to death in Africa?" The response? "They're in heaven with Jesus now". Seems like a cop-out to me.
Catholic

United States

#7 Feb 7, 2013
God never intended for anyone to go hungry. Because of sin, Man has gotten himself in this dreadful state. Centuries of greed and plain 'ol meanness has created the world we live in. Innocents suffer. I believe our purpose is to help alleviate sufferings. We are called to do what we can to help all of mankind. We should also have the wisdom to see the mistakes of the past and try to make THIS world (not the next one) a better place. The next world will be exactly how God intended.

Since: Nov 11

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#8 Feb 7, 2013
Catholic wrote:
God never intended for anyone to go hungry. Because of sin, Man has gotten himself in this dreadful state. Centuries of greed and plain 'ol meanness has created the world we live in. Innocents suffer. I believe our purpose is to help alleviate sufferings. We are called to do what we can to help all of mankind. We should also have the wisdom to see the mistakes of the past and try to make THIS world (not the next one) a better place. The next world will be exactly how God intended.
Yeah, lot's seems to happen that god didn't intend. His premiere angel rebels, he makes mankind with the urges and traits that make him drown the world, etc, etc. He might want to go back and take some classes on the whole creation thing.

You are right though, it's not any gods fault that children starve to death daily. Imaginary beings bear no blame.
for real

Evans City, PA

#9 Feb 7, 2013
YFNA wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, lot's seems to happen that god didn't intend. His premiere angel rebels, he makes mankind with the urges and traits that make him drown the world, etc, etc. He might want to go back and take some classes on the whole creation thing.

You are right though, it's not any gods fault that children starve to death daily. Imaginary beings bear no blame.
the fool hath said in his heart there is no god... God made us with a fee will we all have a choice to make clearly you have made the wrong one. Be not deceived god is not mocked for whatsoever a man soweth that shall he also reap... I hope you make the right decision...

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#10 Feb 7, 2013
for real wrote:
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the fool hath said in his heart there is no god... God made us with a fee will we all have a choice to make clearly you have made the wrong one. Be not deceived god is not mocked for whatsoever a man soweth that shall he also reap... I hope you make the right decision...
Cool story.

Your god and all others are still imaginary. The real deception would be believing the ramblings of a bunch of iron-age, ignorant, uneducated goat herders that we struggling to explain a world they did not understand. I neither sow nor reap, I quit gardening a couple years back. Some summers I do miss it. Thanks for hoping I've made the right decision, trust me I have.
for real

Evans City, PA

#11 Feb 7, 2013
YFNA wrote:
<quoted text>Cool story.

Your god and all others are still imaginary. The real deception would be believing the ramblings of a bunch of iron-age, ignorant, uneducated goat herders that we struggling to explain a world they did not understand. I neither sow nor reap, I quit gardening a couple years back. Some summers I do miss it. Thanks for hoping I've made the right decision, trust me I have.
good deal man... sucks for you if those stone age sheep herders are right and your wrong. Personally I'd rather be on there side if they are than yours there is climate control where il be...
Observer

Georgetown, KY

#12 Feb 7, 2013
The funny thing is that they call themselves christians but in no way represent christ in there daily actions. 99.9 % of christians do not follow the example of christ the man. they worship a book written by other men that claim it is the word of god. In my opinion jeus christ the man was the the most loving, caring, liberal minded man that ever lived. his entire life was dedicated to helping and loving all mankind no matter what they looked like or what there social status was. Christ wanted to be followed, not worshiped. he was anti religion of his day. i have a feeling that if jesus wanted a religion named after him, with a bunch of sheep worshiping a book he probably would have built churches and wrote that book while he was alive. Christ would be ashamed of most christians today!! but dont worry the ultimate cop out is always in place for the so called christians, god forgives all!

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#13 Feb 7, 2013
for real wrote:
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good deal man... sucks for you if those stone age sheep herders are right and your wrong. Personally I'd rather be on there side if they are than yours there is climate control where il be...
Ah, Christian hubris. You think it's christianity vs. atheism in your bet? Sorry, you are banking on one religion out of thousands. It's Your brand of christianity vs every other sect of christianity(maybe the Jehovah's Witnesses are right or perhaps one MUST be Catholic?) vs Islam vs Hinduism vs Ancient Egyptian, Roman, Greek etc, etc. In this little wager your odds are only very slightly ahead of mine. You were born in a country where christianity is the predominant religion, thus you are christian. Had you been born elsewhere, you'd have picked up that religion.

Google "Pascal's Wager".
Forty Two

Flatwoods, KY

#14 Feb 7, 2013
for real wrote:
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your retarded no one worships death... Everyone wants to live how you live defines you not only in gods eyes but other peoples. Christians worship god what he has done and what he will do for those that choose him. And as far as afterlife that's a faith thing you will have to work out with yourself. And if there is nothing to look forward to after death what's the point of life?
Learning about the world about you and using that knowledge, with timing and intelligence to make the nice things in life better for yourself and others.
Showing others the world through your eyes by sharing music, videos, texts, images, and what you think about them, good or bad, and why, so the passing thought that you are in this collective consciousness of humanity will inspire other thoughts which will persist after your chain of thought ends.
Catholic

Columbus, OH

#15 Feb 7, 2013
YFNA, the very fact that there is so many religions is proof that man has always believed in a higher power. Once banned from paradise, Man has sought to find his way back. As we spread out and got farther from the original plan, Jesus was sent to show us the way. Love, peace, respect, etc. was made human to show us that we can find our way back to God.
I don't pretend to know all, not even close. But I do believe that people are born with an innate desire to do right. You are right in that we tend to believe what we are taught, but most religions do teach the basics of "doing right". I only know the peace that passes all understanding comes to me when I seek to do God's will in my life.
Peace to you.
Choose Life

Flatwoods, KY

#16 Feb 7, 2013
for real wrote:
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the fool hath said in his heart there is no god... God made us with a fee will we all have a choice to make clearly you have made the wrong one. Be not deceived god is not mocked for whatsoever a man soweth that shall he also reap... I hope you make the right decision...
Your god lives in the land of Death.
You worship Death.
Death is the ending of a life.
Insincerity

Flatwoods, KY

#17 Feb 7, 2013
YFNA wrote:
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Ah, Christian hubris. You think it's christianity vs. atheism in your bet? Sorry, you are banking on one religion out of thousands. It's Your brand of christianity vs every other sect of christianity(maybe the Jehovah's Witnesses are right or perhaps one MUST be Catholic?) vs Islam vs Hinduism vs Ancient Egyptian, Roman, Greek etc, etc. In this little wager your odds are only very slightly ahead of mine. You were born in a country where christianity is the predominant religion, thus you are christian. Had you been born elsewhere, you'd have picked up that religion.
Google "Pascal's Wager".
It's easier to agree with the popular opinion than to stop and actually think about it.
for real

New Kensington, PA

#18 Feb 8, 2013
There are many diff religions and one can argue the rest of there lives who is right and who is wrong. Until you open your heart and mind to the fact that there is a higher power you will be lost. But once you accept the fact that there is the he will show you the way. I'm not saying all religions are wrong and Christianity is the ONLY one. I will however say that living your life saying there is no god there is no higher power that everything just evolved and happened is just dumb. To say the only reason we are on this planet is to spread our wealth of knowledge is kind of stupid to if you think about it. Think of what our knowledge has done to our planet I'm no tree huger but we have straight destroyed earth. Without a god mankind would have no morals we would be just as the animals are roaming around basic instincts to survive mate and nothing else. O but wait we have turned our backs on god we say he does not exist we teach our children this and look what we have become. Kids adults blowing innocent people's heads off for no reason rapes murders robberies are going through the roof. It gets worse every day and every day more people say there is no god. We have become like those animals maybe I'm wrong but think about research it draw you own conclusion.

Since: Nov 11

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#19 Feb 8, 2013
Catholic wrote:
YFNA, the very fact that there is so many religions is proof that man has always believed in a higher power. Once banned from paradise, Man has sought to find his way back. As we spread out and got farther from the original plan, Jesus was sent to show us the way. Love, peace, respect, etc. was made human to show us that we can find our way back to God.
I don't pretend to know all, not even close. But I do believe that people are born with an innate desire to do right. You are right in that we tend to believe what we are taught, but most religions do teach the basics of "doing right". I only know the peace that passes all understanding comes to me when I seek to do God's will in my life.
Peace to you.
Man also once believed that the earth was flat and that the sun orbited it. How did that work out for them?

Since: Nov 11

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#20 Feb 8, 2013
for real wrote:
There are many diff religions and one can argue the rest of there lives who is right and who is wrong. Until you open your heart and mind to the fact that there is a higher power you will be lost. But once you accept the fact that there is the he will show you the way.
That is your opinion. I am neither lost or in need of "the way". I get by just fine without it.
for real wrote:
I'm not saying all religions are wrong and Christianity is the ONLY one. I will however say that living your life saying there is no god there is no higher power that everything just evolved and happened is just dumb.
So anyone who doesn't share your belief is dumb? The top tier scientists of the world that are almost exclusively atheist or agnostic seem to disprove you there. There are intelligent atheists and intelligent theists, belief changes intelligence level none at all.
for real wrote:
To say the only reason we are on this planet is to spread our wealth of knowledge is kind of stupid to if you think about it. Think of what our knowledge has done to our planet I'm no tree huger but we have straight destroyed earth. Without a god mankind would have no morals we would be just as the animals are roaming around basic instincts to survive mate and nothing else.
I did not say that is why we are here, so I can not speak to that. We have harmed our home planet, on that we both seem to agree. I do see however, when this is brought up many christians think it does not matter because Jesus is sure to come back soon anyway.

Morality is not the sole property of religion. One can be moral and upstanding all without god. I would argue that the bible is a poor source of morals anyway. Sure the new testament is all "hippie love" but look at the old. The god portrayed there is a bloodthirsty, jealous, misogynist, genocidal monster.
for real wrote:
O but wait we have turned our backs on god we say he does not exist we teach our children this and look what we have become. Kids adults blowing innocent people's heads off for no reason rapes murders robberies are going through the roof. It gets worse every day and every day more people say there is no god. We have become like those animals maybe I'm wrong but think about research it draw you own conclusion.
Many countries are far more secular with much higher percentages of atheism and agnosticism and they are doing just fine. All without giving a fig about god they have lower rates of all the crimes you mention, not to mention that most of them rate higher on the happiness scale than the USA. In fact, if you look at the countries that are very religious outside of the US, most of these have the problems that we have here in our society. Do I think religion is the cause? No, but it is certainly not the cure either.

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