Asheville gang violence increasing rapidly

There are 331 comments on the Asheville Citizen-Times story from Oct 2, 2007, titled Asheville gang violence increasing rapidly. In it, Asheville Citizen-Times reports that:

With names like Black Out Mafia and Southside Squad, six criminal gangs have moved into Asheville neighborhoods, driving up shootings like one that critically injured a 12-year-old boy, police say.

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Since: Feb 07

Ashevegas

#1 Oct 2, 2007
these punks need to be snuffed, the sooner the better.

“Be No Tarheelborn”

Since: Feb 07

Albermarle

#2 Oct 2, 2007
lawnguy wrote:
these punks need to be snuffed, the sooner the better.
I think we need to form a gang squad and show these punks the road out of town...

They are good at cowardly attacks and assaults ....

They are welcome in my neighborhood anytime :0)
Joshua

Portland, OR

#3 Oct 2, 2007
As a father planning to move his family to the Asheville area this makes me wonder if it's safe to move to the area.

“Be No Tarheelborn”

Since: Feb 07

Albermarle

#4 Oct 2, 2007
Joshua wrote:
As a father planning to move his family to the Asheville area this makes me wonder if it's safe to move to the area.
Will you be moving into public housing?

Every city has these problems.

Nothing to worry about here.

Are you going to build a McMansion on a hillside?

Do you work?

Are you married?

Does your wife work?

How many children do you have ?

Are you a Left Winged Nut Job ?

Are you a Traditionalist?

Sorry to be nosey....but as the Unofficial Welcome Wagon ...I need to know what's coming in ...
Adam

Hickory, NC

#5 Oct 2, 2007
I think they need an intervention in the form of drowning them in the French Broad. We can light a few tea light candles and set them on top of their bodies as they float downstream.
Mel

United States

#6 Oct 2, 2007
The main problem is public housing - it's amazing how the gang related issues most always are connected to Hillcrest, Deaverview, etc. It's a vicious cycle - these gang idiots are a product of their raising. If the government would stop supporting them and require them to work for their living maybe some of this crape would subside. Another problem is political electives that promise these people more government assistance if they are elected. Go figure!

Since: Jul 07

Hendersonville, NC

#7 Oct 2, 2007
Mel wrote:
The main problem is public housing - it's amazing how the gang related issues most always are connected to Hillcrest, Deaverview, etc. It's a vicious cycle - these gang idiots are a product of their raising. If the government would stop supporting them and require them to work for their living maybe some of this crape would subside. Another problem is political electives that promise these people more government assistance if they are elected. Go figure!
Yep!

I would only add that business owners in the area are suffering significant declines simply because the place has turned into a gang neighborhood. That would be the Patton Ave./Deaverview Road area.
rickm

United States

#9 Oct 3, 2007
Adam wrote:
I think they need an intervention in the form of drowning them in the French Broad. We can light a few tea light candles and set them on top of their bodies as they float downstream.
Or a good pistol whipping.

Ya know, as a former lib I'm ready to bring back public executions. Or public beatings.
TOO MUCH

United States

#10 Oct 3, 2007
They need to tear down public housing. These people don't work and they have too much time on their hands to do violence. The projects are just breeding grounds for crime. They protect each other because they are afraid to talk. I say tear these places down and quit providing places for this to happen. If all these illegal immigrants are finding jobs and buying houses then the people in these projects can find jobs, go to work and buy or rent their homes. It is time the taxpayers stopped fitting the bill to keep up the deadbeat crooks. It is much easier to live off of the government than to get up and go to work!
HEATHER

Asheville, NC

#12 Oct 3, 2007
I THINK THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD QUIT CONDONING PUBLIC HOUSING AND HELP THE PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR A LIVING. THE PEOPLE WHO DONT WORK AND GET FOOD STAMPS AND PUBLIC HELP JUST SELL THEM FOR MONEY TO BUY MORE DRUGS!!!! WHATS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?????IVE SEEN IT TIME AND TIME AGAIN... THOSE PEOPLE ARE WHAT IS RUINING IT FOR THE GOOD PEOPLE. I WOULD LIKE FOR MY CHILDREN TO BE SAFE IN THEIR HOME I HAVE WORKED FOR AND PAID MY OWN BILLS AND BOUGHT MY OWN FOOD.I THINK THE PEOPLE CONDONING THESE THINGS ARE AS MUCH TO BLAME AS ANYONE.
1911-govt

United States

#13 Oct 3, 2007
Joshua wrote:
As a father planning to move his family to the Asheville area this makes me wonder if it's safe to move to the area.
Get your CCW and avoid the areas of town where this trash hangs out.

If we didn't have the likes of Cecil Bothwell trying to thwart the efforts of law enforcement at every turn, perhaps there could be some progress made toward cracking these gang members' heads.
1911-govt

United States

#14 Oct 3, 2007
Mel wrote:
The main problem is public housing - it's amazing how the gang related issues most always are connected to Hillcrest, Deaverview, etc. It's a vicious cycle - these gang idiots are a product of their raising. If the government would stop supporting them and require them to work for their living maybe some of this crape would subside. Another problem is political electives that promise these people more government assistance if they are elected. Go figure!
We'd kill them in our neighborhood if they started that crap. Must be because we're uncultured, gun-totin' rednecks.
Wild Bill

Canada

#15 Oct 3, 2007
I agree with you but Habitat for illegal Mexicans probably built their house.
Dont worry Asheville(says chief Hogan) it is skewed numbers that are to blame. Sorry to say but we are being run over by the illegals.
TOO MUCH wrote:
They need to tear down public housing. These people don't work and they have too much time on their hands to do violence. The projects are just breeding grounds for crime. They protect each other because they are afraid to talk. I say tear these places down and quit providing places for this to happen. If all these illegal immigrants are finding jobs and buying houses then the people in these projects can find jobs, go to work and buy or rent their homes. It is time the taxpayers stopped fitting the bill to keep up the deadbeat crooks. It is much easier to live off of the government than to get up and go to work!
Wild Bill

Canada

#16 Oct 3, 2007
I live in Asheville but work out of town due to Asheville only being a service oriented city.
If you like illegal mexicans I would say move in a minute. If you are a developer(snake oil salesman) it is a great place. If you are Mega Rich you can avoid the riff-raff so it is a great place. Us common folk have to deal with muggings and the shootings.
Joshua wrote:
As a father planning to move his family to the Asheville area this makes me wonder if it's safe to move to the area.
Sam

Casar, NC

#17 Oct 3, 2007
The public housing will not go anywhere but we do need to tighten the screws down on occupants. They could enforce a curfew at all public housing meaning no one out on the streets or sidewalks after 7 pm. This would cut out about 70 percent of the problem. If you ever get a chance and have the balls to ride through Hillcrest at night, it is like a circus on the back road. Over a hundred out smoking dope, flashing guns, getting drunk, listening to that wonderful life building, Rap.

Since: Aug 07

Asheville, NC

#18 Oct 3, 2007
Partial text of 2 emails sent to Councilperson Mumpower yesterday:

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You are now starting to see the results of the Open Air Drug Markets as the cancer progresses.

Gangs form …1) because the money is too enticing to ignore; 2) to protect territories for drug dealers; 3) to take control of the communities and keep the residents in abject terror.

You called it and you called it early. Too bad it had to be such a contentious issue.
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I still don’t think your fellow Council members get it. Having grown up in Chicago, I lived with this. Little hopped up,“gangsta” wannabe robots being directed and controlled by adult gang leaders as worker bees in their enterprises based in communities paralyzed with fear. I think you are just beginning to see what is to come.

This Council truly lacks the vision that comes from life experience and common sense.

“Report and Deport1866-DHS-2 ICE”

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#19 Oct 3, 2007
Illegals, yeah we want their crime here and it has arrived. Gangs...yepper...

1911, I loved this: "Must be because we're uncultured, gun-totin' rednecks."
Ya darn tootin....but you know what is so bad, we would be the first ones arrested for defending our families and homes...go figure.
Old Rose

Newington, CT

#20 Oct 3, 2007
rickm wrote:
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Or a good pistol whipping.
Ya know, as a former lib I'm ready to bring back public executions. Or public beatings.
I'm a believer in caning. Remember that kid who painted grafitti on cars in some far eastern country. He got five lashes, and I'll bet his butt draws up every time he sees a spray can of paint. It could work here in this country so well!
monkeytail

United States

#21 Oct 3, 2007
Skidoo1969 wrote:
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Yep!
I would only add that business owners in the area are suffering significant declines simply because the place has turned into a gang neighborhood. That would be the Patton Ave./Deaverview Road area.
You're right. I've only been here 4 years but see the decline. I come from a place where these people will ruin this city if the city doesn't act fast. They have to invest in a police force (financially) that can handle it, or trust me they won't be able to. Government assistance is only part of the problem. They come here because it's easy! Make it hard for them! Don't blame the innocent people who won't step up to do the police work. They live in fear and rightly so. It has to come from law enforcement and neighborhood GROUPS who stand up and make them want to leave because of too much pressure. All you can do is push them somewhere else. The government is a mess everywhere; you won't fix the US problem in Asheville.
jimtash

Manteo, NC

#22 Oct 3, 2007
1911-govt wrote:
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We'd kill them in our neighborhood if they started that crap. Must be because we're uncultured, gun-totin' rednecks.
Amen. Some gang idiot starts something around here, he'll be staring down the barrel of an AR or and AK. And I don't miss.

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