Stupid Bothwell comment of the day.

Stupid Bothwell comment of the day.

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anon

Asheville, NC

#1 Jun 22, 2013
Cecil Bothwell Top Commenter Owner at Brave Ulysses Books
So KIng has joined the Pants-On-Fire squad. There was no way that the City could possibly have pulled $2 million out of the CRA deal to fund the Arts Museum. I swear, these Republicans are utterly shameless when it comes to invention of justification for their actions.

Just this week a woman from Moffitt's neighborhood told me that she was sympathetic to Moffitt's position on annexation because HE TOLD HER that if that neighborhood had been annexed in 2010, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN FORCED to connect to City water at great personal expense. FURTHER, that this is the reason he must take the water system from Asheville.

It is not now, and never has been, and will not be the policy of the City to force well owners to hook up to City water. NEVER. Liar, liar, liar.
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And the reply to the loon.

Michael McCoy Top Commenter Owner at C&M SAWMILL
When did it change Cecil. I had a house in Asheville from 1976 to 86 and you had to use city water if you lived in the city then.

http://www.citizen-times.com/comments/article...

Our resident Jew loon in council can't go back that far. He wasn't living here. Transplanted Jews come here to change things to suit them while ignoring the past that doesn't suit their agenda. And what's even funnier, create "cultural" departments that only benefit their crony friends.
anon

Asheville, NC

#2 Jun 22, 2013
In the past downtown was shuttered and the city was in decline according to the Jews. Yet they ignore the fact that downtown was a working class business district centered on providing a variety of services. Not an artsy mecca full of restaurants and galleries that sell junk so fat tourists can get their fill on overpriced fluff.
Uber Marler

Asheville, NC

#3 Jun 22, 2013
anon wrote:
In the past downtown was shuttered and the city was in decline according to the Jews. Yet they ignore the fact that downtown was a working class business district centered on providing a variety of services. Not an artsy mecca full of restaurants and galleries that sell junk so fat tourists can get their fill on overpriced fluff.
Yes it was shuttered and pretty much empty. I was there every day. If you saw a car downtown, you suspected they were up to something because there were no cars downtown. Broken store fronts boarded up. Empty stores. Few people. It was a virtual ghost town. That is very true.
anon

Asheville, NC

#4 Jun 22, 2013
Parts of downtown were empty true. But there were businesses that thrived as well. And many were forced out via Eminent Domain. Those around pack square especially.
Inspector C

Asheville, NC

#5 Jun 22, 2013
anon wrote:
Parts of downtown were empty true. But there were businesses that thrived as well. And many were forced out via Eminent Domain. Those around pack square especially.
More than part - it was most. Iwas hard to find a place to eat unless you went to 3 brothers, woolworth's or kosmos. that was about all there was and few people went downtown for anything.
anon

Asheville, NC

#6 Jun 22, 2013
No it wasn't. Downtown was a working class area and the businesses shut down at 5. Ed Orr, Rogers, all the garages, Boozers, Browns auto and air, the various produce sellers, it was geared toward actual services.

You left out Inn on Plaza, the restaurant on top of the BB&T building, Pack Square cafeteria, the Chinese restaurant that is still ran on Broadway, Peterson's, Tom's Grill, Flamingo, plenty of them.

Problem with gentrification is that it rid the area of real services. Yeah I can there and eat and drink, always could, but you're pressed to find a place to buy food. Remember the A&P on Biltmore? And now what you have is businesses that benefit the few. As a local, I don't shop there, don't eat there, or spend much money there. First off it's too expensive and second, it's all crap. If I need a frig, a TV, a stove, do I go to downtown? No, nothing like that is even sold there.
Native

Asheville, NC

#7 Jun 22, 2013
anon wrote:
No it wasn't. Downtown was a working class area and the businesses shut down at 5. Ed Orr, Rogers, all the garages, Boozers, Browns auto and air, the various produce sellers, it was geared toward actual services.
You left out Inn on Plaza, the restaurant on top of the BB&T building, Pack Square cafeteria, the Chinese restaurant that is still ran on Broadway, Peterson's, Tom's Grill, Flamingo, plenty of them.
Problem with gentrification is that it rid the area of real services. Yeah I can there and eat and drink, always could, but you're pressed to find a place to buy food. Remember the A&P on Biltmore? And now what you have is businesses that benefit the few. As a local, I don't shop there, don't eat there, or spend much money there. First off it's too expensive and second, it's all crap. If I need a frig, a TV, a stove, do I go to downtown? No, nothing like that is even sold there.
You are talking earlier than the 80's early 90's. Peterson's Grill hasn't been around in 50 years. We're not talking about the 50s and 60s here. We're talking about the time period when downtown Asheville shriveled up and died - right around the time the Asheville Mall opened.
Native

Asheville, NC

#8 Jun 22, 2013
..really more like the 70s and 80s.
anon

Asheville, NC

#9 Jun 22, 2013
70's and 80's is what I'm referring to. I grew up here during that time. Used to ride on Biltmore Ave at nights during that entire time with my parents going home. I remember what it was. Plaza I and II, the old Fine Arts when it was a stag theater, yeah I remember it. Walked Biltmore during that time as well.

I worked Bele Chere right there at Pritchard Park when all it encompassed was just that general area. It didn't even go all the way to Pack Square.

Not saying downtown current is a bad thing. But its positive impact to the area is way overblown. And it's negative effects are rarely talked about. Instead of owners, we have renters. Instead of greenery, we have asphalt. Lower wages and less economic opportunity. How many were forced out of there.

BTW Ed Orr shut down in 1980 or 1981 when AMC folded up. My father bought a 1974 Hornet from there. I remember the cars that were in the small showroom. Also remember riding the bus and going down south Market street. The cab stand there.
anon

Asheville, NC

#10 Jun 22, 2013
Peterson's closed when the area was demolished to make way for the current Biltmore buiding did it not? I remember waiting on the bus in front of the old Pack Square library as it was being built in 1981.
Old Timer

Asheville, NC

#11 Jun 22, 2013
anon wrote:
No it wasn't. Downtown was a working class area and the businesses shut down at 5. Ed Orr, Rogers, all the garages, Boozers, Browns auto and air, the various produce sellers, it was geared toward actual services.
You left out Inn on Plaza, the restaurant on top of the BB&T building, Pack Square cafeteria, the Chinese restaurant that is still ran on Broadway, Peterson's, Tom's Grill, Flamingo, plenty of them.
Problem with gentrification is that it rid the area of real services. Yeah I can there and eat and drink, always could, but you're pressed to find a place to buy food. Remember the A&P on Biltmore? And now what you have is businesses that benefit the few. As a local, I don't shop there, don't eat there, or spend much money there. First off it's too expensive and second, it's all crap. If I need a frig, a TV, a stove, do I go to downtown? No, nothing like that is even sold there.
You could always buy frigs downtown, or at the Glen Rock. You can still get them downtown, but the Glen Rock went gentry. You could buy a decent hamburger at Doll House on Broadway from Chris and Stella. They were Greek and put on quite a show while they cooked. My favorite hotdogs you could buy and eat there on the premises and drink a beer with the delicious kosher dog was Schandler's Deli where the Mellow Mushroom now stands. Then there was Tingle's and the Chinese Restaurant across Broadway.

When I was a kid in the 50's S&W Cafeteria at Pritchard Park was a great place to eat. There was a tiny little dwarfed man that sold newspapers in front of the S&W for a dime. In my mind's ears, I can hear him hawking those papers right now. Them was the days!

Remember shiskabobs at Dennis' Delicatessen on Merrimon Avenue?
Lazy Susan? And it seemed like the Three Brothers was eternal. Good food too.
Willard Hardsuck

Dallas, TX

#12 Jun 23, 2013
You dumbass rednecks can learn a thing or two from Cecil. He's from Chicago afterall. And he is trying his best to turn Asheville into Chicago. All we are missing is more urban density, dirty bum-laden sidewalks, high gun crime rate, communists under every bed, and lots of welfare monkeys. Whew. We got a long way to go. But if anyone can turn Asheville into a yankee schithole, Cecil can!
Thomass Hoffmann

New York, NY

#13 Jun 23, 2013
Excuse me but what is the purpose of making Ashville into Chicago? It needs to be made just like NYC.
Willard Hardsuck

Arlington, TX

#14 Jun 23, 2013
Thomass Hoffmann wrote:
Excuse me but what is the purpose of making Ashville into Chicago? It needs to be made just like NYC.
Sorry Thomas. I'd rather have Chicago here than NYC. It will be more exciting reading about all the gun violence once Cecil confiscates all the guns from law abiding citizens---just like in Chicago.
Thomass Hoffmann

New York, NY

#15 Jun 25, 2013
Willard Hardsuck wrote:
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Sorry Thomas. I'd rather have Chicago here than NYC. It will be more exciting reading about all the gun violence once Cecil confiscates all the guns from law abiding citizens---just like in Chicago.
Ashville needs to become more like New York. And unlike Chicago, we in NYC are much better at hiding our political corruption. Gun violence? Hey NYC has plenty. So yoiu can still get your jollies Willie Mae.

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#16 Jun 25, 2013
Thomass Hoffmann wrote:
Ashville needs to become more like New York.
We certainly have the "weird Central Park druggies" part down pat.
Willard Hardsuck

Dallas, TX

#17 Jun 25, 2013
ApePeeD wrote:
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We certainly have the "weird Central Park druggies" part down pat.
Chytown still has Nu Yawk beat in that department too. I fyou want to be big city like up north, you gotta go with Cecil and his plans to make Asheville into a little Chicago.
Walter

Asheville, NC

#18 Jun 25, 2013
Willard Hardsuck wrote:
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Chytown still has Nu Yawk beat in that department too. I fyou want to be big city like up north, you gotta go with Cecil and his plans to make Asheville into a little Chicago.
Whatever gave you the idea Cecil wanted to make Asheville into a little Chicago? He left Chicago to get away from all Chicago is. Granted he may have some liberal leanings but his intent is well meaning and he has Asheville's best interests at heart. He takes his decisions seriously and he's not a bad guy. I didn't vote for him but I don't dislike him.
Voted for Bothwell

Asheville, NC

#19 Jun 26, 2013
Walter wrote:
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Whatever gave you the idea Cecil wanted to make Asheville into a little Chicago? He left Chicago to get away from all Chicago is. Granted he may have some liberal leanings but his intent is well meaning and he has Asheville's best interests at heart. He takes his decisions seriously and he's not a bad guy. I didn't vote for him but I don't dislike him.
I voted for him. He's a great big breeze of fresh air in Asheville who has lessened the foul stench of mendacity. I'd stand in a line a mile long to vote for him. I'd also stand in a line a mile long to vote AGAINST pompous, insolent, primping DINO Terry Bellamy.

Since: Mar 13

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#20 Jun 26, 2013
Willard Hardsuck wrote:
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Chytown still has Nu Yawk beat in that department too. I fyou want to be big city like up north, you gotta go with Cecil and his plans to make Asheville into a little Chicago.
All you need is the theme song from "Law and Order" while filming the dead bodies floating in Beaver Lake or the French Broad, and we're well on our way to having "the feel" of Central Park.

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