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Frank wrote:
<quoted text> No you didn't understand my posts. I don't think the man attacked her because she was black. I think He attacked because she provoked him.
If this guy could be provoked by someone asking him to be careful of a child, he's got some serious problems and probably needs to be locked away in a rubber room for a long while.

You're still justifying his actions and blaming the victim. If situation were reversed (racial or gender-wise), you'd be calling for the attacker's head.
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Frank wrote:
<quoted text> She wasn't protecting her daughter if the guy way walking away. Calling her a soldier is an insult to soldiers. She's a weekend warrior.
All irrelevant. She's an Army reservist. And she had a right to scold the man. What she did was not illegal. What he did was felonious.

Are you the perpetrator? You protest too much. By the way, you're banned for life from the Cracker Barrel.
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Jessica B wrote:
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If this guy could be provoked by someone asking him to be careful of a child, he's got some serious problems and probably needs to be locked away in a rubber room for a long while.
You're still justifying his actions and blaming the victim. If situation were reversed (racial or gender-wise), you'd be calling for the attacker's head.
I haven't justified his actions. I'm saying that she provoked the assault.
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Buncy wrote:
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All irrelevant. She's an Army reservist. And she had a right to scold the man. What she did was not illegal. What he did was felonious.
Are you the perpetrator? You protest too much. By the way, you're banned for life from the Cracker Barrel.
So you have assumed that the man was responsible for her daughter nearly getting him with the door. You don't even know if he is at fault for that incident or not. The attitude that she had the right to scold him is what caused her to be assaulted in the first place. No I am not the man who attacked the woman at the cracker barrel.
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Frank wrote:
<quoted text> I haven't justified his actions. I'm saying that she provoked the assault.
Yes, but answer the question. Does her verbal assault justify his physical assault? Won't answer it, will you, coward?
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Frank wrote:
<quoted text> Your prejudice is showing. You people really don't know me. My best man at my wedding was black. My wife is American Indian and hispanic.
Trust me , they don't count "other"races, only theirs. She counted on that she could pitch a hissy with no consequences. I winder how many free meals she has gotten with her big mouth?I wish for his sake he had gotten in the car and hit DOOR LOCK like te rest of us.
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Go Sanchez wrote:
<quoted text>Trust me , they don't count "other"races, only theirs. She counted on that she could pitch a hissy with no consequences. I winder how many free meals she has gotten with her big mouth?I wish for his sake he had gotten in the car and hit DOOR LOCK like te rest of us.
The beating took place in the foyer, and nothing short of Tasha Hill striking Troy West with her fists would have justified him attacking her with his fists.

If she had got up in his face and hissed like a puff adder, he would not have been justified in striking her. That's the law and always has been, and especially since our courts have ruled that a woman is not her husband's property, like livestock.

Which brings me to something else. You damn rednecks treat your animals with cruelty too.

Such sweaty slopehead rednecks you are! How can women stand you?

You men think you're such heee-men and so macho who would abuse a woman half your size. You're yellow-bellied cowards. No gentleman would strike a woman unless in self-defense.

A woman hit me in the mouth with her fist once. I dared her to and she did. I grinned and went on like it didn't even hurt, although it smarted a little. It takes a man to put up with that and not fly mad and hit back. Power is knowing when not to use it, and not flying off the handle like a hothead. Hotheads are dangerous and usually sociopaths. You dimwit.

Now I did tell the pretty little woman not to ever do that again or I was going to reciprocate, blow for blow. And she never did it again. I think she knew I meant what I said.

Let's wait until we can see the entire movie of the event. I just saw the movie of a vicious attack by one boy against another on a Belleville, Illinois school bus. The movie does not lie. The 14-year-old beat and wounded the 17-year-old without any apparent provocation while others cheered him on and at least one made snapshots and grinned, gloated, and taunted as the victim sat slumped on his seat bleeding. A digital record of the violence does not lie.

What kind of nation are we becoming that we tolerate this shocking and brutal violence? What in the hell is going on here? And some of us even try to justify the crimes. The klanster types are all over the forums trying to pat the back of the big bearded Georgian who attacked a small black woman in the foyer of a Cracker Barrel. And the father of the violent boy slugging a passive victim on the school bus-- he claims his son did not commit an assault! What a one-sided slugfest! You could have fooled me.

Without getting to the question of racism, we need to get to the violence first, and quell it. It's like an aggressive cancer: it spreads like crazy.
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Buncy wrote:
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The beating took place in the foyer, and nothing short of Tasha Hill striking Troy West with her fists would have justified him attacking her with his fists.
If she had got up in his face and hissed like a puff adder, he would not have been justified in striking her. That's the law and always has been, and especially since our courts have ruled that a woman is not her husband's property, like livestock.
Which brings me to something else. You damn rednecks treat your animals with cruelty too.
Such sweaty slopehead rednecks you are! How can women stand you?
You men think you're such heee-men and so macho who would abuse a woman half your size. You're yellow-bellied cowards. No gentleman would strike a woman unless in self-defense.
A woman hit me in the mouth with her fist once. I dared her to and she did. I grinned and went on like it didn't even hurt, although it smarted a little. It takes a man to put up with that and not fly mad and hit back. Power is knowing when not to use it, and not flying off the handle like a hothead. Hotheads are dangerous and usually sociopaths. You dimwit.
Now I did tell the pretty little woman not to ever do that again or I was going to reciprocate, blow for blow. And she never did it again. I think she knew I meant what I said.
Let's wait until we can see the entire movie of the event. I just saw the movie of a vicious attack by one boy against another on a Belleville, Illinois school bus. The movie does not lie. The 14-year-old beat and wounded the 17-year-old without any apparent provocation while others cheered him on and at least one made snapshots and grinned, gloated, and taunted as the victim sat slumped on his seat bleeding. A digital record of the violence does not lie.
What kind of nation are we becoming that we tolerate this shocking and brutal violence? What in the hell is going on here? And some of us even try to justify the crimes. The klanster types are all over the forums trying to pat the back of the big bearded Georgian who attacked a small black woman in the foyer of a Cracker Barrel. And the father of the violent boy slugging a passive victim on the school bus-- he claims his son did not commit an assault! What a one-sided slugfest! You could have fooled me.
Without getting to the question of racism, we need to get to the violence first, and quell it. It's like an aggressive cancer: it spreads like crazy.
Give me a break! White people treat their animals like family! It's the thugs treating their women like crap and those poor dogs they fight!
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Buncy wrote:
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The beating took place in the foyer, and nothing short of Tasha Hill striking Troy West with her fists would have justified him attacking her with his fists.
If she had got up in his face and hissed like a puff adder, he would not have been justified in striking her. That's the law and always has been, and especially since our courts have ruled that a woman is not her husband's property, like livestock.
Which brings me to something else. You damn rednecks treat your animals with cruelty too.
Such sweaty slopehead rednecks you are! How can women stand you?
You men think you're such heee-men and so macho who would abuse a woman half your size. You're yellow-bellied cowards. No gentleman would strike a woman unless in self-defense.
A woman hit me in the mouth with her fist once. I dared her to and she did. I grinned and went on like it didn't even hurt, although it smarted a little. It takes a man to put up with that and not fly mad and hit back. Power is knowing when not to use it, and not flying off the handle like a hothead. Hotheads are dangerous and usually sociopaths. You dimwit.
Now I did tell the pretty little woman not to ever do that again or I was going to reciprocate, blow for blow. And she never did it again. I think she knew I meant what I said.
Let's wait until we can see the entire movie of the event. I just saw the movie of a vicious attack by one boy against another on a Belleville, Illinois school bus. The movie does not lie. The 14-year-old beat and wounded the 17-year-old without any apparent provocation while others cheered him on and at least one made snapshots and grinned, gloated, and taunted as the victim sat slumped on his seat bleeding. A digital record of the violence does not lie.
What kind of nation are we becoming that we tolerate this shocking and brutal violence? What in the hell is going on here? And some of us even try to justify the crimes. The klanster types are all over the forums trying to pat the back of the big bearded Georgian who attacked a small black woman in the foyer of a Cracker Barrel. And the father of the violent boy slugging a passive victim on the school bus-- he claims his son did not commit an assault! What a one-sided slugfest! You could have fooled me.
Without getting to the question of racism, we need to get to the violence first, and quell it. It's like an aggressive cancer: it spreads like crazy.
I'm not a redneck, not a man. And I would shoot any man that hit me or my animals. But I don't chase people that accidently hit me with doors either. See if I was going to attack a redneck, I would make damn sure he was close enough to home to drag his sorry azz across the threshhold so I could blow his brains out! Big difference. Such a good example she sets going off over doors so she can cry racism!While she was chasing him around the parking lot screaming, I bet she said some real nice racist shyt
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For example, i had to go to the Sprint store the other day.I stood in line with everyone else. It was ALMOST my turn and this big fat LOUD black momma with a 15 year old just jumped in front of me, got right in the faces of the employees trying to do their jobs. They gave her attention as they saw what kind of drama queen this was. i heard her tell her kid"Let momma show you how to get things done".I nearly snapped and remembered it's best to pick your battles. I DID call it to the attention of the manager before i left that I wasn't happy about her behavior. With this man,I would say water sought it's own level.
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Buncy wrote:
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Yes, but answer the question. Does her verbal assault justify his physical assault? Won't answer it, will you, coward?
No it doesn't justify his physical assault on her. If you had bothered to read my posts you would understand that.
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Buncy wrote:
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she had a right to scold the man. What she did was not illegal.
I really think that it's fooklish to scold an angry person much larger than yourself. She's allowed her anger get take control of the situation and he also let his anger take control.

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go Sanchez wrote:
<quoted text>I'm not a redneck, not a man. And I would shoot any man that hit me or my animals. But I don't chase people that accidently hit me with doors either. See if I was going to attack a redneck, I would make damn sure he was close enough to home to drag his sorry azz across the threshhold so I could blow his brains out! Big difference. Such a good example she sets going off over doors so she can cry racism!While she was chasing him around the parking lot screaming, I bet she said some real nice racist shyt
If she chased him, how did he assault her in the foyer?
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Buncy wrote:
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A woman hit me in the mouth with her fist once. I dared her to and she did.
Not a very smart thing to do. You provoked the attack.
There is a reason why people assault one another. You give an example of an ego fight. The attack in Cracker Barrel was an ego fight. In this case an ego beating.
There is a blue print for ego fights and this is how they occur.
1. One person is offended by another.
2. That person verbally retaliates.
3. Both people begin to argue.
4. One person makes a threat display. This is saying to the other person, leave me alone or you will suffer physical consequence. It's a warning like a rattlesnake shaking it's tail. At this point both parties are angry and unreasonable.
5. The other person makes a threat display.
6. Neither person is willing to back down, and one person insults the other. This continues until
7. In order to save face one person attacks the other.
It is really dumb behavior to incite a person into anger that has the capability of losing control and physically assaulting you.
It's also really dumb to tell an angry person I dare you to hit me. I see you claim that you didn't retaliate, it would have been foolish for the person that struck you to incite you further by calling you a name, such as a coward. In the story you present, when a person strikes another and stops it is still a threat display and shows the other person that they aren't bluffing and that they are capable of and willing to cause violence to you unless you cease your behavior.
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Buncy wrote:
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Yes, but answer the question. Does her verbal assault justify his physical assault? Won't answer it, will you, coward?
If you had called me a coward to my face. I wouldn't even care. I'm a man, not an underconfident child. If the woman in Cracker Barrel followed me through that door I wouldn't have let the situation escalate to physical violence. The woman at the cracker barrel didn't insult me at in the foyer. If it were me she would have gotten lucky, and left without getting beat down. She didn't get lucky enough to run into me that night. She went out there door to scold an angry violent animal. If it were another woman she went after she would be charged as well.
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Sep 19, 2009
 
This note is for everyone who is upset because this is being called a "hate crime," imagine your mother having her race referred to, while she is being beaten and cursed. Now ask the question, "Was it a "hate crime?""
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justice wrote:
This note is for everyone who is upset because this is being called a "hate crime," imagine your mother having her race referred to, while she is being beaten and cursed. Now ask the question, "Was it a "hate crime?""
No it wasn't a hate crime. It was a case of two angry people who lacked the social skills needed to have avoided the conflict. something both of them should have learned in Elementary school. Imagine that your mother provoked an attack on her. She's still responsible for her actions whether she's your mother or not.

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Frank wrote:
<quoted text> No it wasn't a hate crime. It was a case of two angry people who lacked the social skills needed to have avoided the conflict. something both of them should have learned in Elementary school. Imagine that your mother provoked an attack on her. She's still responsible for her actions whether she's your mother or not.
If she was assaulted because of her race, its a hate crime. I know that rips at your craw but the fact is, it is. Above that, are you saying you're ok with a man beating a woman because she spoke to him in a way he didnt appreciate?
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Didn't she chase,spit,scream,etc?Maybe he knocked her away to get away from her
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Buncy wrote:
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A woman hit me in the mouth with her fist once. I dared her to and she did. Now I did tell the pretty little woman not to ever do that again or I was going to reciprocate, blow for blow. And she never did it again. I think she knew I meant what I said.
Dare me.

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